Fox's obsession with the War on Terrror

[Captain America]

I also think FOX has the most psycologically attractive set displays too. Graphics, colors, etc.... Very good at that.

And yes, people watch O'Reilly for the same reasons they watched Morton Downey back in the day. They watch NASCAR for the wrecks. They watch hockey for the fights.

So, take the wrecks, the fights and put it on an attractive set and mix it with a little partisan spin and VOILA.....you got braindead viewers and enourmous ratings. Ingenious.

 

[jfuh]

Yeah and it has nothing to do with telling both sides of thes story instead of one......Telling the good things that are taking place in Iraq instead of constantly focusing on the negative.........

A lot of you liberals bitch about FOX but truth be told you are watching it too....

"My next two presenters (Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert) have done for fake news what fox news has done for fake news" - Connan O'Brian 2006 Emmys

Yep, Fox news gives me a good laugh every now and then.
Fox presents the side that the administration wants to present - they're the megaphone for the white house.

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

...lives if it focussed better on what really kills Americans, namely guns and cars....

What has seemed stranged to me is the direct racial-Muslim oriented profiling given to "potential terrorists" and even on DP we have some posters directly supporting this in guise of protecting lives while in fact the FBI stats on crime gives Blacks as the predominant criminal and they aren't the majority. What happens when they're profiled? People protesting, marches and laws are passed against it, as well as massive media coverage and lawsuits galore. It's obvious the Department of the Homeland Defense was made for Islamic Terror. Imagine a specific Department just for against Black crime? In fact that's a good idea and those for aggressive Muslim Terrorist profiling will support it also-in order to save lives and much money--unless their reason really isn't about saving lives and the massive cost of crime. Thank you fellow racists.

 

[jfuh]

What has seemed stranged to me is the direct racial-Muslim oriented profiling given to "potential terrorists" and even on DP we have some posters directly supporting this in guise of protecting lives while in fact the FBI stats on crime gives Blacks as the predominant criminal and they aren't the majority. What happens when they're profiled? People protesting, marches and laws are passed against it, as well as massive media coverage and lawsuits galore. It's obvious the Department of the Homeland Defense was made for Islamic Terror. Imagine a specific Department just for against Black crime? In fact that's a good idea and those for aggressive Muslim Terrorist profiling will support it also-in order to save lives and much money--unless their reason really isn't about saving lives and the massive cost of crime. Thank you fellow racists.

This is not quite accurate. Let me elaborate. while profiling based on race is pointless, profiling in general (what the Israeli government and airport security do) has prooven highly highly effective.
If we racially profile alone then alll an islamic fundamentalist need do is just get enough money and bribe a non-arab to carry for them. Bingo, same effect.
You're right though, those that are calling for racial profiling are blinded by irrational racial prejudice. These ppl should be ashamed for even thinking to give up the freedoms that this country stand for. Make matters worse these are highly selfish motives simply because it is not thier freedom that they are giving up but someone elses. For shame.

 

[Navy Pride]

This is not quite accurate. Let me elaborate. while profiling based on race is pointless, profiling in general (what the Israeli government and airport security do) has prooven highly highly effective.
If we racially profile alone then alll an islamic fundamentalist need do is just get enough money and bribe a non-arab to carry for them. Bingo, same effect.
You're right though, those that are calling for racial profiling are blinded by irrational racial prejudice. These ppl should be ashamed for even thinking to give up the freedoms that this country stand for. Make matters worse these are highly selfish motives simply because it is not thier freedom that they are giving up but someone elses. For shame.

Maybe if we had racially profiled on 9/11 we could have saved the lives of 3,000 innocent people who were murdered..........

 

[jfuh]

Maybe if we had racially profiled on 9/11 we could have saved the lives of 3,000 innocent people who were murdered..........

And who the hell are you to say to citizens of arab decent that they are to be singled out?
This is exactly as I mentioned earlier. It's easy when it's not yourself who's right's your giving up.
Hey the Unibomber was white, as are nearly all highschool shootouts involving white kids, should we start to single whites out?
You're proposal is absolutely rediculous.
9/11 was not because there was no racial profiling, hell the hijackers were mostly already red-flagged, yet they were allowed to get on flights. That's not a failure of not profiling, that's a failure of the system to have done anything effective.

 

[Navy Pride]

And who the hell are you to say to citizens of arab decent that they are to be singled out?
This is exactly as I mentioned earlier. It's easy when it's not yourself who's right's your giving up.
Hey the Unibomber was white, as are nearly all highschool shootouts involving white kids, should we start to single whites out?
You're proposal is absolutely rediculous.
9/11 was not because there was no racial profiling, hell the hijackers were mostly already red-flagged, yet they were allowed to get on flights. That's not a failure of not profiling, that's a failure of the system to have done anything effective.

Horse ****.......

I can tell you if it were American Caucasions driving airplanes into buildings I would have no problem with us being profiled.........In fact I would insist on it.......

 

[jfuh]

Horse ****.......

I can tell you if it were American Caucasions driving airplanes into buildings I would have no problem with us being profiled.........In fact I would insist on it.......

So you are denying that many of the hijackers were already red flagged by the FBI as individuals that should not board any aircraft?

How quickly you forget the various liberties to which this country of freedom stands for. You would trade away your rights for security. How those that've fallen in the name of defending this country must be tossing and turning in thier graves now that thier decendents would say such a thing. I suppose the phrase "give me liberty or give me death" no longer has any meaning in this generation.

What is it that the terrorists want? Oh right to terrorize and scare us into submission to them. Sorry, think as you must, but to me and I believe to many others here, I believe that to fight terrorism is not to live in fear or submission but to face them head on with what America Stands for - Freedom.

 

[Navy Pride]

So you are denying that many of the hijackers were already red flagged by the FBI as individuals that should not board any aircraft?

How quickly you forget the various liberties to which this country of freedom stands for. You would trade away your rights for security. How those that've fallen in the name of defending this country must be tossing and turning in thier graves now that thier decendents would say such a thing. I suppose the phrase "give me liberty or give me death" no longer has any meaning in this generation.

What is it that the terrorists want? Oh right to terrorize and scare us into submission to them. Sorry, think as you must, but to me and I believe to many others here, I believe that to fight terrorism is not to live in fear or submission but to face them head on with what America Stands for - Freedom.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. what the hell, we don't need any airport security....We don't need the PA.......Hell open up all the borders...........If they kill a few million, no big deal because we are tough..........And this is the exact reason why we can never let the left and people like you take over this country.........You just prove my point with every time you open your mouth..........

 

[PrimBabUB]

"My next two presenters (Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert) have done for fake news what fox news has done for fake news" - Connan O'Brian 2006 Emmys

Yep, Fox news gives me a good laugh every now and then.
Fox presents the side that the administration wants to present - they're the megaphone for the white house.

I know I sure got a laugh from Kyra Phillips of Communist News Network.

Life can sure be a real p!sser some times........

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[Navy Seal Patriot]

I'm still awaiting word for those supporting a specialized Govt. department for Blacks as they kill more people* in america in one year than any 911 incident--in fact in 2001 they still overshadowed any Muslim Terrorist USA murders. I mean you do care about saving lives and billions of taxpaying money don't you? The war on Crime must have an office that tackles the specific criminals.

*Official FBI statistics.

 

[jfuh]

Yeah. what the hell, we don't need any airport security....We don't need the PA.......Hell open up all the borders...........If they kill a few million, no big deal because we are tough..........And this is the exact reason why we can never let the left and people like you take over this country.........You just prove my point with every time you open your mouth..........

In the words of your Idol Reagan: "There you go again" putting words in my mouth. When you can not support your own argument, you lie.
Plz I beg you show me a single instance where I've ever mentioned that there needn't be airport security? I think my statment alone showed that it was a failure airport security and airline officials that RED FLAGGED ppl got onto the planes in the first place. Show me where I've ever advocated opening up the borders.
All your slander and lies only show is that you can not make the argument to rationalize for exactly what you advocate simply because you know it's wrong and that RACIAL profiling goes against the very basis of our countries freedom.

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

I mean you do care about saving lives and billions of taxpaying money don't you?

If one just wants to racial profile muslims because it helps the Bush war on terror, helps Israel, helps defense contractors and just helps you because you like to watch war on the screen; then be honest to us and yourself that you want a specific group targeted (in the US) instead of another group that just does as much murder and monetary loss of private and public monies than any domestic Muslim terrorist(s). I understand Honesty isn't best policy in politics, but no one on DP is running for office?

 

[Rachel]

I just watched Fox News. They go on and on about 'The War on Terror'.
To my knowledge no Americans have died in terrorist acts in the states since 911. Yet in the 60 months since 911, around 3,000 Americans have died every month in road accidents and around 3,000 a month have died from shootings and 3,000 Americans have died in the War on Terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911.
That's a grand total of around 360,000 dead Americans.
Whilst I'm not against better intelligence & homeland security, surely America would save more lives if it focussed better on what really kills Americans, namely guns and cars, rather than the bungling attempts to fight terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911 and Fox News's obsessive focussing on terror ?

Wow, another liberal bashing Fox News, how original...

Fox is no more biased than CNN or MSNBC, or the BBC in the UK. You guys just can't handle it when people report the news without the anti-Bush spin you're so used to, that's all. The reason Fox reports extensively about the war on terror is because it is the great struggle of our time. They report about it because people in America want to know about it.

You're right that the terrorists haven't been able to kill 3,000 Americans on a monthly basis. But perhaps the reason many Americans want to know what's going on in the war on terror is that they understand that the terrorists want to kill 3,000 Americans every month (or even more) and they would do it if they could.

I don't understand why some people are so afraid of hearing a different point of view.
If you don't want to watch Fox News then change the channel.
If you only want to hear the anti-Bush positions then stick to Democratic Underground.

I agree with you on one thing though, a lot more should be done to fight traffic accidents. But that's not just a problem in the US. Countries all over the world are struggling to deal with this issue. Even countries which haven't spent billions of Dollars on the war in Iraq. One has nothing to do with the other. As for Fox News, I bet they report more about traffic accidents than any of those others do. Maybe you could do a study about it and get back to us.

:2wave:

 

[Simon W. Moon]

If we start profiling, then the terrorists will start too.

If we profile for just Middle Eastern folks, then they'll send Jose Padillas and John Walker Lindhs.
If we profiles for just males, then they'll send us only females.
If we profile for just for folks who fit category X then they'll only send us folks who fit category Y.

 

[Harshaw]

If we start profiling, then the terrorists will start too.

If we profile for just Middle Eastern folks, then they'll send Jose Padillas and John Walker Lindhs.
If we profiles for just males, then they'll send us only females.
If we profile for just for folks who fit category X then they'll only send us folks who fit category Y.

Right. So the correct course of action is to do absolutely nothing, because someone will always find a way around it. Heck, let's just succumb to the inevitable and surrender. Sure would could less of a ruckus, no?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Right. So the correct course of action is to do absolutely nothing, because someone will always find a way around it. Heck, let's just succumb to the inevitable and surrender. Sure would could less of a ruckus, no?

Your conclusion is astoundingly incorrect.

The correct thing to do is to randomize the searches.

 

[TPG]

What's wrong with what Fox News does? From what I have seen, it sells quite well and it gets decent ratings. They give their viewpoint, whether it is extreme or mainstream, but a lot of the time it creates controversy, which, once again, sells well. I won't say what I do and don't agree with or whether I think it is helping or hurting our country, but what they are doing looks like a good business decision. Afterall, it is a business.

 

[Stinger]

Because that's all Faux news has to report on. I mean seriously, they've got freaking Geraldo working for them. The network is just a miserable excuse for a news network bouyed by the neoconservatives and the GOP. The ultimate apologetics for the white house. Tony Snow worked at Fox and now works in the White house, coincidence?
Faux news is the propagandist front for the White house, nothing more. And all they have is the war on terror to terrorize the American ppl in hopes that we'd follow blindly like sheep.
Sorry but we're not going to go ba ba bah for you Mr. Bush.

As opposed to MSNBC's ALL ROVE ALL THE TIME? And at that their were miserably mistaken in thier reporting.

Perhaps if you watched more FOX news we wouldn't have to post so many cites to you of obvious facts.

 

[ProudAmerican]

Your conclusion is astoundingly incorrect.

The correct thing to do is to randomize the searches.

yes, randomize the searches to include people that have never taken part in a terrorist attack in their lives (ie little old ladies in wheel chairs, 87 year old white males)

we must do this, to make the muslems "feel better"

 

[Navy Pride]

I think we all know what the Israelis do at their airports..we should do the same.........Screw the whinners......

 

[jfuh]

As opposed to MSNBC's ALL ROVE ALL THE TIME? And at that their were miserably mistaken in thier reporting.

Perhaps if you watched more FOX news we wouldn't have to post so many cites to you of obvious facts.

Have I ever said that MSNBC was not biased? Have I mentioned MSNBC?
Are you stating that because MSNBC is biased that it somehow credits to Faux?

 

[jfuh]

I think we all know what the Israelis do at their airports..we should do the same.........Screw the whinners......

Yes, I agree, wow, do exactly what Israelies to at thier airports, profile for terrorists, not race, not gender, not age.

 

[Btipton]

The difference is there is no cure for the flu, lightning is uncontrollable, and car wrecks aren't preordained plans made by someone to take out another. You make meaningless examples like this but at the end of the day, they're just pretty gestures.

As for the WWII example, you're right Germany did declare war on us. But thats where the similarities stop. Al Qaeda is a group of ideas, they'll never formally declare war as if they were a government body. Thats why in order to control it you must destroy the idea. And in order to do that, you simply threaten all who support it.

Sounds a bit radical? Sure, but it takes radical to defeat the radical. Logic and reason are ultimate traits to be sure. But they are useless against those who are too "radical" to listen.

You can cry all day about Fox for having a slant. But then again every other station has been cited time and time again for false stories and comments. During the Clinton administration everyone complained about CNN calling it "Communist News Network" or "Clinton News Network." Congratulations, did you just figure out that both lean toward one side? You sure are a smarrrt one.

Why I recall 3-1/2 years ago a story came out from the BBC that said a group of soldiers in Iraq gunned down a group of men protesting my throwing small rocks at them. Low and behold, and thank somebody for some decent investigation, that these weren't Iraqi citizens. They were identified as belonging to a terrorist group, who were standing on top of a three story building, throwing C-I-N-D-E-R BLOCKS at the soldiers. Small rock, cinder block, hell it's all the same.

No point in whining unless you have a suggestion to better it. A small child can vent, it takes a man/woman to come up with reform.

 

[NguyenRhymesWithWin]

Screaming at guests, kicking around, yelling, and slander. Yes, that raises ratings. As does fortelling of the apocolypse and so on.
Ppl like to watch violence, Faux provides plenty.

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I don't know, whenever I turn on MSNBC, Chris Matthews is always on it showing Images in Iraq and insuring us of all kinds of bad news coming from it and even when he's just speaking, his voice is still in shouting mode. Same crap, different channel, yet we only focus on Fox.