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I want to dislike this post just so I can like it again. :mrgreen:For over 25 years my job was to see these things and report on them. You do not get used to it.
Few reporters like it after a few times, you see one body with half the torso blown away by a shot gun, smell it, you don't want to go back. But there is a reason we have to go. Ratings. The viewer demands to see it, maybe not you or Tres, but the majority.
These protests now from the left only come after Obama's flaccid stance on terror and his asinine "crusades" comment, and it's, gasp, Fox, the worse enemy than Islamic terror...
There is also the public right to know. The American voter needs to know it's government is losing a war as much as it might be winning, just as they need to know American troops are obeying the rules, being properly fed, equipped and protected.
The problem with the left is their concept of freedom of speech is limited to their beliefs, they object to the release of anything not on their enemies list...growing longer every day.
It's not journalism, it's sensationalism. Fox News continues to disgrace and discredit itself.
I disagree, I don't think we need videos like this to show how evil ISIS is. I think Fox News did ISIS work for them. They will show this, but you'll never see what those car bombs did to the people in Iraq and to our troops. You'll see car parts everywhere, but you won't see parts of bodies on the streets.;
I think it depends on why they are showing the video. I they are trying to stir the public into lets bomb these animals until kingdom come in order to motivate the public into endorsing another war in the middle east then it is bad. If they are simply trying to show how evil these animals are then its possible it might be good. I do not know about you but I do not need a video of animals lighting a man on fire to know that ISIL is evil. I am sure most people don't as well. So I suspect the intent in to enrage the public enough into supporting another war that we have no business in.
I'm not a Fox News viewer, but I can't think of one "news" organization that doesn't capitalize on tragedy in a sensational fashion in order to drum up revenue.
If this is Fox disgracing and discrediting itself, and I'm not suggesting that it isn't, then I can't think of a single graceful, creditable news outlet.
This is the video of ISIS burning the Jordanian pilot to death in a cage.
WARNING, EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO: ISIS burns hostage alive| Latest News Videos | Fox News
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Okay ... soooooo ... showing the barbarity of ISIS is an advertisement for them but a President reinforcing their recruiting pitch is a history lesson.
This is the video of ISIS burning the Jordanian pilot to death in a cage.
WARNING, EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO: ISIS burns hostage alive| Latest News Videos | Fox News
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We don't need to help ISIS advertise their barbarity.
What we need to do is kill all of them as soon as possible.
I'm not a Fox News viewer, but I can't think of one "news" organization that doesn't capitalize on tragedy in a sensational fashion in order to drum up revenue.
If this is Fox disgracing and discrediting itself, and I'm not necessarily suggesting that it isn't, then I can't think of a single graceful, creditable news outlet.
You didnt see even a piece of the atrocities committed by those sadistic ****s. And what that caused was a bunch of people to jump from being on board the war effort when it was politically expedient to the war for oil political rhetoric that followed.
It's not journalism, it's sensationalism. Fox News continues to disgrace and discredit itself.
Do you think showing their barbarism is a positive advertisement?Really? You think that's what the president was doing when he called them barbaric?
We don't need to help ISIS advertise their barbarity.
What we need to do is kill all of them as soon as possible.
Say that person in the video is a relative of yours, how would you feel about a news organization posting a video of his death?
That's not what he was doing.Do you think showing their barbarism is a positive advertisement?
Do you think reinforcing ISIS recruitment pitch about modern Crusades is a positive advertisement?
There's something Obama always does.
Always.
If he knows what he's saying will be widely heard or read he'll make sure to include something for both sides of an issue, while making the thrust of his remarks clear.
That way there's something he and his peeps can point to when he's challenged.
Yes, he'll call it barbarism and then minimize or rationalize it.
Think "the video" and "act of terror" re Benghazi.
I think you're being too harsh on them for this one. This is the logical progression of media sensationalism in America. FOX isn't the first to show violent videos. However, it sets a pretty bad precedent on just what can be shown by media. I'm not for banning these things but I certainly believe that some discretion should be exercised if only to respect the families.
They don't like seeing anything that shows Obama is an idiot and this does
The viewer demands to see it
In order to do that you need to have the stomach for the fight. What we have now is conservatives opposing all things Obama, liberals blaming every discussion on stopping ISIS on republican warmongering, and such a dearth of support from the global community that the president had to come home with his hat in his hand and is left with really the only option as being an air campaign.We don't need to help ISIS advertise their barbarity.
What we need to do is kill all of them as soon as possible.
To be fair, I never much cared how sadistic Saddam Hussein or his army were in the first place.
As a service member, like yourself, a veteran in my case, I believe that wars should be fought for political reasons, and that those reasons should actually directly benefit the hostile nation.
While I deplore many of the things that the Hussein family and Iraq's Baathist regime did in terms of brutality I don't really believe that stopping or preventing such things are something that the United States should be spending money, and young American lives, on.
I didn't buy in to OIF because I was interested in saving the Iraqi people from a monster, I signed on because I believed the false, and to some degree artificially manufactured, rhetoric about Iraq being an imminent and potentially existential WMD threat (at least to some of Iraq's neighbors in the region who are also critical to our economy).
Once we invaded and it became increasingly clear that there was no active WMD program and that the "worst" we were going to find there were old 155mm mustard gas shells left over from the First Persian Gulf War and buried deep in the Arabian Desert since some time in the mid 1980s, or the degraded and disintegrating garbage at Muthanna, I then jumped from being on board to figuring it was time to index the operation and head home.
That's not what he was doing.
What, you're mad because he said "act of terror" instead of "terrorism?" Really?
I watched the video and other than the obvious horrific way the Jordanian pilot was killed, a couple of things came to mind concerning both the airing of this video by Fox News and the information the Jordanian pilot apparently gave up.
1. There are some videos a new organization should not show. This was one of them. Why? Because of what may be a hidden intent behind it as addressed in the posts below:
It is interesting that while Fox News could claim that they aired the video unfiltered and unedited, the lack of editing, i.e., Arabic to English translation (sub-titles), would have helped enlighten and inform the viewing audience as to what the captive and the video's narrator were saying. Instead, all we come away with is both the horror and the disdain of the torturous death act. To that, you miss tons of other information that could have been helpful.
2. The Jordanian pilot apparently revealed tons of information to his captors, specifically the types of military fighter jets used, missile capabilities and air bases used. To me as a veteran, this is dangerous! When a POW, name, rank, serial number is all you give...nothing more, anything less. Nonetheless, I thank God that neither I nor anyone I know were in this guy's shoes. Who knows what he was promised if he gave up vital information though. In the end, his death might have been the spark that was needed to convince the Arab World to take up arms against this madness! Sad it had to come to this to get their attention.
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