Fox News Poll: Big shift in asking government to 'lend me a hand' amid pandemic, unrest

[VanceMack]

"Currently, a majority of Democrats (71 percent) would tell the government to “lend me a hand.” Views split among independents (47 percent lend a hand vs. 46 percent leave me alone) and Republicans (45-48 percent)."

So your own cited article ****s on your narrative.

But seriously...you have leftist governors and rat politicians across the country doing their best to destroy the economy...can you REALLY be shocked that people that have had their livelihoods taken from them are asking for a hand? And are you REALLY stupid enough to claim that responding to a ginned up crises where people have been forced to shutter businesses is an appeal to socialism??????

 

[Yakshi]

Funny how that works eh?

Turns out bootstraps don't exist.

 

[ElChupacabra]

That happens all the time so, yes, what’s good for the goose and all that.

It's why we're going to continue to decline as a nation.

 

[Yakshi]

Welfare Queens

. . . Bu-bu-bu-but we aren't sucking on the government teat, because we already paid into it with taxes, so really, truly, honestly, that money is already ours, or something.

 

[Rawley]

She doesn't represent the entire party, nor everyone who votes for Democrats.

Well, she's certainly driving a lot of the policies Biden and the party has adopted. And the party chose her to speak at their convention tonight. So you will have to forgive us for taking what she has to say seriously in regard to the positions of the Dem party.

 

[danielpalos]

Welfare Queens

Corporate welfare queens make more and complain about competing with the Chinese.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Well, she's certainly driving a lot of the policies Biden and the party has adopted.

What will be more telling is what actually makes it through to actual legislation. The Democratic Party has had to do a bit of a dance between its more leftist branch and the moderates. The flip flopping of support for certain policies are indicative of this; Kamala Harris' flip flop on healthcare is one example. The GOP went through this with the Tea Party and recently with the Freedom Caucus.

And the party chose her to speak at their convention tonight. So you will have to forgive us for taking what she has to say seriously in regard to the positions of the Dem party.

I'll reserve judgement until I hear what she actually has to say.

 

[Yakshi]

What will be more telling is what actually makes it through to actual legislation. The Democratic Party has had to do a bit of a dance between its more leftist branch and the moderates. The flip flopping of support for certain policies are indicative of this; Kamala Harris' flip flop on healthcare is one example. The GOP went through this with the Tea Party and recently with the Freedom Caucus.



I'll reserve judgement until I hear what she actually has to say.

Why would you reserve judgment until you hear what she really has to say when you could just overreact hysterically by assuming the worst possible conclusion like a four-year-old child?

You are too grown up for this discussion. I recommend that you man up and get childish like the rest of us.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Why would you reserve judgment until you hear what she really has to say when you could just overreact hysterically by assuming the worst possible conclusion like a four-year-old child?

You are too grown up for this discussion. I recommend that you man up and get childish like the rest of us.

Surely you mean boy up...

 

[Rawley]

What will be more telling is what actually makes it through to actual legislation. The Democratic Party has had to do a bit of a dance between its more leftist branch and the moderates. The flip flopping of support for certain policies are indicative of this; Kamala Harris' flip flop on healthcare is one example. The GOP went through this with the Tea Party and recently with the Freedom Caucus.

I'll reserve judgement until I hear what she actually has to say.

Absolutely serious question - who are the moderate leaders in the Dem party today?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Absolutely serious question - who are the moderate leaders in the Dem party today?

Biden for sure. He's not a far left candidate by a long shot; neither is Harris. Pelosi is not a leftist. Would you say the entire GOP is far right?

 

[Rawley]

Biden for sure. He's not a far left candidate by a long shot;

We'll disagree. His adoption of Bernie Sander's policy platform will make him the most leftist candidate in history. Sander's words, not mine.

Biden And Sanders Release Their Joint Policy Recommendations : NPR

either is Harris.

Well. Her voting record tells a different story. non partisan govtrack - ranked her voting record in 2019 as the most liberal out of 100 Senators.

Kamala Harris’s 2019 Report Card from GovTrack.us

Pelosi is not a leftist.

Again, we'll disagree. If nothing else, her caving to the far left elements and conducting the only partisan impeachment in the history of this country says volumes about her leadership. If she was anything of a moderate leader, that would have been stomped out immediately. The whole thing from start to finish was a ridiculous partisan left wing exercise.

Would you say the entire GOP is far right?

Far from it.

 

[Bullseye]

The modern GOP really is something. They launched a PR campaign to rehabilitate the term "socialism" by re-branding it as "everything people like," they made the Affordable Care Act popular by trying to take it away, and now contra Reagan they've made "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" the nine most welcome words in the English language.

I think the damage the GOP does when in power is simply too catastrophic to ever justify allowing it on a purely strategic basis, but I at least understand those on the left who think giving the GOP a few years to **** everything up every now and then is hugely helpful for winning over converts and massively shifting public opinion.

Fox News Poll: Big shift in asking government to 'lend me a hand' amid pandemic, unrest

Not sure of your point. Other than run-of-the-mill GOP bashing. Mostly, under normal circumstances, people want to be left on their own; when the world turns to **** and conditions are beyond their ability to deal with they want their government to help. Why is that hard to grasp?

 

[trixare4kids]

Biden for sure. He's not a far left candidate by a long shot; neither is Harris. Pelosi is not a leftist. Would you say the entire GOP is far right?

Their records would point to the above being false.

 

[Bullseye]

The reality of Government is Socialism is finally registering with the right wing?

Nope. The reality of needing some temporary assistance in a devastating pandemic is "registering". Basically, the "help me get back on my feet and then got lost".

 

[Bullseye]

Nobody is for gutting the police, we are for gutting the killers out of the departments all over these here united states of america.

What do I have to do with any police departments? I don't handle their budgets. But hey, it sounded good right?

"Gutting the killers out of the PD? All ten of them national-wide?

 

[Bullseye]

Hey, X. How are localities supposed to fund their public services, given the drop in tax revenues due to the current economy? I know most conservatives want to think it's all a "BLM" secret plot - but people are actually hurting. It's not only police we're going to need to worry about, it's all public services.

You "know very little; knowing requires the capability of thinking.

 

[lurchadams]

Defunding means exactly what it sounds like. If I support defunding Planned Parenthood, it’s pretty understood that I do not support Planned Parenthood, same with those that support defunding police no matter how they try making it more palatable. None of this is geared toward making things better for police, afterall, according to many on your side, all cops are bastards.

Please tell me who these "cop haters" are. I don't feel that way and no other Democrats I know feel that way either. I think a lot of what's inflaming many on your side is your defensiveness, due to accusations of systematic racism which has existed for centuries in some police departments. Many of you have also conflated the peaceful BLM demonstrators with the opportunistic criminals that are rioting and looting.

There are some bad cops who are protected by the police unions. Until that changes, there will be more innocent people murdered by police and our arguments over whether or not that's avoidable will continue.

 

[Bullseye]

Biden for sure. He's not a far left candidate by a long shot; neither is Harris. Pelosi is not a leftist. Would you say the entire GOP is far right?

You been of the planet for a while? Those people are hard lefties. Harris's voting record in the Senate was further left than Sanders. Biden has Bernie as a policy advisor and Pelosi? Not a leftie? Are you serious?

 

[lurchadams]

You "know very little; knowing requires the capability of thinking.

One thing I know is that when ignorant people don't like the message they resort to attacking the messenger because they're incredibly insecure about their own ignorance, bigotry, and hatred.

 

[Bullseye]

One thing I know is that when ignorant people don't like the message they resort to attacking the messenger because they're incredibly insecure about their own ignorance, bigotry, and hatred.

So, that explains your continual bad-mouthing of conservatives. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[bongsaway]

This is such BS. I haven’t heard one lefty here stand up for the value of police as a whole.

Should that maybe tell you something? The law and order types on here which are mainly the R's seem to think the police are some type of saviors to humanity that do no wrong. In general I find them to be arrogant as a group and most certainly think they are above the law. I've gotten into a cursing screaming match with one cop in the middle of the night for pulling me over and not telling me why, his partner stood there watching with the look of sorry about this asshole on his face.

They have value they just need to be retrained to help us instead of kneeling on our necks.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You been of the planet for a while? Those people are hard lefties. Harris's voting record in the Senate was further left than Sanders. Biden has Bernie as a policy advisor and Pelosi? Not a leftie? Are you serious?

Biden has not been a hard leftist. That his campaign is trying to bridge the gap between the left side of the party is another thing.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Their records would point to the above being false.

As being far left? Goodness; if they're far left, then what does that make the Biden, AOC's of the world?

 

[Bullseye]

Biden has not been a hard leftist. That his campaign is trying to bridge the gap between the left side of the party is another thing.

Sure. :roll: