Fox News at it again

[Khayembii Communique]

Greta should be canned.

 

[Stinger]

This link...................

So what??? What does that prove?

 

[missypea]

Fox news shows Conyers as they cover indictment news on Jefferson.

:doh

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2qRUAMWIyE[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Stinger]

And...............................

 

[missypea]

And...............................

Conyers:

“Fox News has a history of inappropriate on-air mistakes that are neither fair, nor balanced. This type of disrespect for people of color should no longer be tolerated. I am personally offended by the network’s complete disregard for accuracy in reporting and lackluster on-air apology.”

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=449

 

[Stinger]

Conyers:

I could care less what John Conyers says, he has no idea what he is talking about and will issue specious smears at the drop of a hat.

 

[missypea]

I could care less what John Conyers says, he has no idea what he is talking about and will issue specious smears at the drop of a hat.

Conyers said:

“Fox News has a history of inappropriate on-air mistakes that are neither fair, nor balanced. This type of disrespect for people of color should no longer be tolerated. I am personally offended by the network’s complete disregard for accuracy in reporting and lackluster on-air apology.”

because of this feeble apology?

They just said they'd "mistakenly run the wrong video" with no explanation of what the mistake was. It seems like a clarification was in order that the guy they showed, Conyers, actually didn't get indicted for anything.

for this kind of ridiculous reporting:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2qRUAMWIyE[/YOUTUBE]

and you come back with

he has no idea what he is talking about

 

[Stinger]

Conyers said:

Again I could care less what Conyer's has to say and his overblown rhetoric and charges.

 

[Gibberish]

Again I could care less what Conyer's has to say and his overblown rhetoric and charges.

That's convenient.

 

[missypea]

That's convenient.

LMAO....isn't it though?

I don't know why he can't just say, "wow, they screwed up." At least that would be an honest statement.

 

[Stinger]

That's convenient.

To what? Conyers is a blowhard and this is an example.

 

[Stinger]

LMAO....isn't it though?

I don't know why he can't just say, "wow, they screwed up." At least that would be an honest statement.

Wow they screwed up, someone made an error. That's exactly what I was saying in the first place. Conyers is trying to make some issue, why can't HE say the same thing? Like I said, he's a blowhard, I could care less what he has to say.

So why is it the subject of a debate thread?

 

[missypea]

Wow they screwed up, someone made an error. That's exactly what I was saying in the first place. Conyers is trying to make some issue, why can't HE say the same thing? Like I said, he's a blowhard, I could care less what he has to say.

So why is it the subject of a debate thread?

no, no, no......let's be honest. Your post have been pointing your fingers in any direction except Faux Noise.....and the thread is about how the Faux Noise machine is not a legit news organization. It's simply a tool for the neocons and/or a joke....take your pick

 

[Gibberish]

To what? Conyers is a blowhard and this is an example.

So because you don't like Conyers it is OK for Fox News to make the mistake they did?

 

[Stinger]

no, no, no......let's be honest. Your post have been pointing your fingers in any direction except Faux Noise

I'm sorry what are you talking about?

.....and the thread is about how the Faux Noise machine is not a legit news organization.[/quote]

Actually more so than most.

It's simply a tool for the neocons and/or a joke....take your pick

I know the left doesn't want to hear both sides of the issues because it makes there side look so weak, but when you do report both sides so the listener can make up their own mind, as FOX News does, THAT is legitimate reporting.

They all have such gaffs as you are trying to make an issue of, at least FOX quickly makes a public note of it.

 

[Stinger]

So because you don't like Conyers it is OK for Fox News to make the mistake they did?

Who said it was "OK", but that is what is was a mistake. Someone should get written up for it and given a little more training. But to make something nefarious out of it is folly.

Why is it even an issue of political debate or noteworthy at all?

 

[missypea]

I'm sorry what are you talking about?

.....and the thread is about how the Faux Noise machine is not a legit news organization.

Actually more so than most.

I know the left doesn't want to hear both sides of the issues because it makes there side look so weak, but when you do report both sides so the listener can make up their own mind, as FOX News does, THAT is legitimate reporting.

They all have such gaffs as you are trying to make an issue of, at least FOX quickly makes a public note of it.

I make an issue of it because it is business as usual for them. They report on a republican in trouble and put a D next to his name. The talk about Harold Ford and show a picture of Obama. They encourage their viewers to believe opinion as news. They are a brainwashing machine.

Fair and balanced? You bet. They're always fair and balanced for the right wing agenda....the rest of the world can suck a lemon.

 

[Stinger]

I make an issue of it because it is business as usual for them.

I'm sorry are you now saying it wasn't a mistake by someone in the control room where they que up such things?

They report on a republican in trouble and put a D next to his name. The talk about Harold Ford and show a picture of Obama.

Yeah and other networks make mistakes too. Are you saying someone in the control room at Fox is ordering these things? All the technicians that work there are part of this right-wing plot to put up mistakes that do exactly what for the evil right wing?

They encourage their viewers to believe opinion as news.

No they give both sides of the issue so the viewer can form their own opinion unlike the other networks.

They are a brainwashing machine.

:rofl well they might be able to wash out some of the propaganda you get from the other networks and fill it with a balance view so you can make up your own mind. Don't you like to see the other side presented too?

Fair and balanced? You bet.

Sure do.

They're always fair and balanced for the right wing agenda....the rest of the world can suck a lemon.

Nope a fair and balanced view of them would indicate just the opposite.

 

[disneydude]

One of two things is occurring at Faux News....

1. Either they have the worst production team in the Country who make more mistakes (suprisingly always involving democrats or supporting right wing causes) or

2. It is purposeful political propoganda.....

Take your pick.

The only two things that Stinger apologizes more for than Faux news are his other two heroes....GWB and Libby....

 

[Stinger]

One of two things is occurring at Faux News....

1. Either they have the worst production team in the Country who make more mistakes (suprisingly always involving democrats or supporting right wing causes) or

No better or worse than any of the others, in a fast pace news room glitches happen.

2. It is purposeful political propoganda.....

Got the tin foil hat on, yeah everyone in that newsroom and production room are in on the scheme. And what was it suppose to accomplish.

The only two things that Stinger apologizes more for than Faux news are his other two heroes....GWB and Libby....

Do you really think such childishness makes your case? Since they issued their own appology then certainly don't need one from me, but you having to make it a personal issue just showed how fallacious your points really are.

 

[Skip]

No better or worse than any of the others, in a fast pace news room glitches happen.

Hahaha, Stinger you never cease to amaze me. Was the "Mark Foley (D-FL)" incident just the result of a fast paced news room?

 

[Stinger]

Hahaha, Stinger you never cease to amaze me. Was the "Mark Foley (D-FL)" incident just the result of a fast paced news room?

I'm sorry I don't follow, try making sense. Are you claiming that the production crew at FOX was engaged in some plot? Do do what?

 

[missypea]

I'm sorry I don't follow, try making sense. Are you claiming that the production crew at FOX was engaged in some plot?

No plot, just business as usual.

Do do what?

exactly!

 

[Stinger]

No plot, just business as usual.

Please elaborate, what was the "business as usual"? Someone que'd up the wrong clip, happens at any network especially a live, breaking news at any time do it on the fly news room. I at one time had lots of friends at an ABC affiliate. At their parties they would play the blooper tapes they made, they were hilarious. People make mistakes, deal with it.

It is amazing how badly the left wants to blacklist a balance news channel just because they don't want both sides heard. As absurd as the Democrat candidates blacklisting FOX as far as debates. The MOST watched news channel, by an overwhelming number, but because the give equal airing to the conservative side they won't go on it. What folly.

 

[Khayembii Communique]

The bias of Fox News is blindingly obvious. Let me go through some examples

FAIR on Brit Hume's Special Report:

The numbers show an overwhelming slant on Fox towards both Republicans and conservatives. Of the 56 partisan guests on Special Report between January and May, 50 were Republicans and six were Democrats -- a greater than 8 to 1 imbalance. In other words, 89 percent of guests with a party affiliation were Republicans.

On Special Report, 65 of the 92 guests (71 percent) were avowed conservatives--that is, conservatives outnumbered representatives of all other points of view, including non-political guests, by a factor of more than 2 to 1. While FAIR did not break down the non-conservative guests by ideology, there were few avowed liberals or progressives among the small non-conservative minority; instead, there was a heavy emphasis on centrist and center-right pundits (David Gergen, Norman Ornstein, Lou Dobbs) and politicians (Sen. John Breaux, Sen. Bob Graham, Rep. Christopher Shays).

Source

FAIR compared Special Report to Wolf Blitzer Reports:

As a comparison, FAIR also studied the one-on-one newsmaker interviews on CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports over the same time period, and found a modest but significant tilt towards Republicans, and a disproportionate minority of guests who were conservatives--but in both cases, there was far more balance than was found on Special Report.

Of Blitzer's 67 partisan guests, 38 were Republicans and 29 were Democrats -- a 57 percent to 43 percent split in favor of Republicans. Thirty-five out of 109 guests (32 percent) were avowed conservatives, with the remaining 68 percent divided up among the rest of the political spectrum, from center-right to left.

Fox News bias on the Clinton vandalism affair, which is just one example:

Fox News on The Clinton Vandalized The White House and Air Force One Story

May 21, 2001

During the White House transition in January, one story proved irresistible to many conservative pundits: Departing Clinton staffers had gone on a wild rampage and "trashed" or "vandalized" the White House, even looting Air Force One. Allegations of the Clinton aides' reckless destruction of public property swept through the media. For some, the story symbolized the difference between a morally compromised Clinton presidency and a more dignified, honorable Bush administration.

An official government investigation, however, reveals one major problem with these stories: They apparently never happened. According to statements from the General Services Administration that were reported on May 17, little if anything out of the ordinary occurred during the transition, and "the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

Ironically, the investigation came in response to a request from Rep. Bob Barr (R.-Ga.), and many conservatives who had assumed that the wild rumors would be confirmed by an official inquiry. That wasn't the case. (The "looting" of Air Force One had also been denied months ago by officials at Andrews Air Force base -- Kansas City Star, 2/9/01).

Leading the cry against the trashing of the White House was the Fox News Channel. Virtually every major Fox personality reported it as fact, often expressing their own personal outrage. Guests on the channel chimed in, condemning the Clintons and their staffers. Consider the following reports:

--Brit Hume (1/25/01): "By the way, the reported vandalism in those White House offices now includes power and phone cords cut... trash dumped on floors, desk drawers emptied onto floors, pornographic pictures left in computer printers, scatological messages left on voice mail, and cabinets and drawers glued shut. And the Washington Times reports that the presidential 747 that flew Bill and Hillary Clinton to New York on inauguration day was stripped bare. The plane's porcelain, china... and silverware, and salt and pepper shakers, blankets and pillow cases, nearly all items bearing the presidential seal, were taken by Clinton staffers who went along for the ride. The Washington Times quoted a military steward as saying that even a supply of toothpaste was stolen from a compartment under a sink."

--Sean Hannity (1/26/01): "Look, we've had these reports, very disturbing reports -- and I have actually spoken to people that have confirmed a lot of the reports -- about the trashing of the White House. Pornographic materials left in the printers. They cut the phone lines. Lewd and crude messages on phone machines. Stripping of anything that was not bolted down on Air Force One. $200,000 in furniture taken out."

--Fred Barnes (1/27/01): "Now, you know what else helped Bush have such a good week? It was the contrast with the Clintons' sleazy departure from the White House, which is a hot story in itself.... You had the trashing of the White House itself. We don't know how much, but the typewriters, the voicemail, the graffiti on the walls and so on, reflecting, I think, a real bitterness that they should not have reflected, at least in that."

--Bill O'Reilly (1/26/01): "I mean, the price tag right now is about $200,000, so that's a felony right there."

--Oliver North, radio host (1/26/01, "Hannity & Colmes"): "There's an awful lot about this whole administration that never looked right to many of us. And of course, their closing act in this whole thing, which was basically trashing the White House, you know, pillaging what was available on Air Force One.... We should expect from white trash what they did at the White House."

--Paula Zahn (1/26/01): "All right, but this is the White House, for God's sakes. We're not talking about people living in a fraternity."

--Tony Snow (1/28/01): "When I first heard about reported vandalism by disgruntled Clinton-Gore staffers, I got a little bit steamed. I've got a certain affection for the White House, due in no small part to my own service there during the first Bush administration. So, inspired by my experience and fond memories, I dashed off an angry newspaper column about the incident. But then the Bush team did something very wise. It did nothing, and that was the right choice. Sometimes you have to look past little idiocies and outbursts, understanding that life's just too short to fret over such things."

"A little bit steamed" is putting it mildly: As the Kansas City Star reported (5/17/01), one of Snow's syndicated newspaper columns was nearly a case study in dishonest reporting. Snow wrote that the White House "was a wreck" and that Air Force One "looked as if it had been stripped by a skilled band of thieves -- or perhaps wrecked by a trailer park twister."

Source

If you want me to go on I could, but I think that's pretty damning evidence against the "fairness" or "balance" of Fox News.