Fox is now plagiarizing RNC press releases

[Einzige]

Fox, Tucker Carlson Copy GOP Website, Report Press Release As News | The Daily Dolt

Fox News apparently waited until the very last minute to start working on their final project for “Spinning the Sequester 101,” so they just copied some slides from a press release issued by the Republican Party:

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As Media Matters notes, this isn’t the first time Fox News has tried to copy answers off the Republican Party. They’ve done it once before. Actually, more than once before. Actually, at this point it seems to be a bit of a recurring problem.

But what makes this instance even more confounding than usual is that, in a brazen display, Tucker Carlson proceeds to bring NRCC chairman Greg Walden on Fox & Friends, displays Walden’s own NRCC slides as though Fox had created them, and then asks Walden why the Republicans haven’t come up with a list like this on their own.

 

[Fisher]

So you either are not disputing that these are facts or you are arguing that only one source is allowed to use any set of facts. Which is it so we can be clear?

 

[Muddy Creek]

So you either are not disputing that these are facts or you are arguing that only one source is allowed to use any set of facts. Which is it so we can be clear?

Of course they all apply to the republicans in the house who are the ones who appropriate where the funds go. The President does not do that job. So, it's the republcians in the house who are doing the inappropriate cuts, but FOX lies again about that.

 

[Einzige]

So you either are not disputing that these are facts or you are arguing that only one source is allowed to use any set of facts. Which is it so we can be clear?

These "facts", such as they are, are absurdly, absolutely trivial. The sequestration is going to slash nearly a hundred billion dollars a year, and we're going to do that by cutting $99,000 of "tax payer funded liquor", whatever the **** that is?

And I'm a proponent of things like laying off border guards and TSA agents. You want to talk about a 'nanny' State? Behold, the nannies. Medicare needs a nice axing also.

 

[pbrauer]

These "facts", such as they are, are absurdly, absolutely trivial. The sequestration is going to slash nearly a hundred billion dollars a year, and we're going to do that by cutting $99,000 of "tax payer funded liquor", whatever the **** that is?

And I'm a proponent of things like laying off border guards and TSA agents. You want to talk about a 'nanny' State? Behold, the nannies. Medicare needs a nice axing also.

click my sig line. :mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

[ocean515]

Leave it to those sane folks at MediaMatters to ferret out the misinformation...

Wait.

You haven't suggested anything is wrong with the numbers, or the assumptions, just that the presentation echos the one from the NRCC?

Wow. That's shocking stuff there.

By the way, when do you think MediaMatters will be properly investigated by the IRS for tax fraud?

 

[rocket88]

Is it me, or is the GOP's sudden concern for an entitlement program (Medicare) and government employees interesting?

 

[Einzige]

Leave it to those sane folks at MediaMatters to ferret out the misinformation...

Wait.

You haven't suggested anything is wrong with the numbers, or the assumptions, just that the presentation echos the one from the NRCC?

These "facts", such as they are, are absurdly, absolutely trivial. The sequestration is going to slash nearly a hundred billion dollars a year, and we're going to do that by cutting $99,000 of "tax payer funded liquor", whatever the **** that is?

And I'm a proponent of things like laying off border guards and TSA agents. You want to talk about a 'nanny' State? Behold, the nannies. Medicare needs a nice axing also.

Get outraaaaaaaaaaaged.

 

[digsbe]

Is it me, or is the GOP's sudden concern for an entitlement program (Medicare) and government employees interesting?

How so?

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Fox, Tucker Carlson Copy GOP Website, Report Press Release As News | The Daily Dolt

Ah - yeah.

What's even more perplexing is that it seems all that liberals and democrats want to do is watch Fox all day - decide when they might have ****ed up - and then post the hell out of the issue.

As if anyone actually gives a flying ****.

Meanwhile - ignoring their own personal BS in the process.

Because if anyone was actually paying any real attention to the whole world of politics they would have realized that said 'statements and photos' have been in circulation and used by several people making a 'political point' for quite a LONG time now . . . it's been around the internet before. It's been used in speeches, powerpoints found on youtube, etc. It's not new, original - I don't even know who actually came up with any of it first.

So - now everyone just looks like an idiot. Except for me - I'm stellar because I known I've seen it all before February 2013. :lamo

 

[Einzige]

Ah - yeah.

What's even more perplexing is that it seems all that liberals and democrats want to do is watch Fox all day - decide when they might have ****ed up - and then post the hell out of the issue.

Ah, I'd forgotten the Golden Rules of moderatism:

"Both sides are equally bad!"
"The truth is somewhere in the middle!"
"Everyone does it!"

All three shibboleths that ought to be destroyed.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Ah, I'd forgotten the Golden Rules of moderatism:

"Both sides are equally bad!"
"The truth is somewhere in the middle!"
"Everyone does it!"

All three shibboleths that ought to be destroyed.

Read my edit - it's not originally conceived by the GOP . . . similar or the exact same statements and quips have been going around for quite some time - especially the squirrel bit. It's been the butt of jokes. It was even used in some video posted on this forum about 'how the government can quit spending and start saving'

 

[rocket88]

How so?

Usually when it comes to cutting entitlements and cutting the number of government employees, the GOP is leading the charge.

 

[ocean515]

Get outraaaaaaaaaaaged.

Trust me, I'm outraged. For example, one can't live in California and not be outraged by what liberal/progressives have done to the state.

 

[Einzige]

Read my edit - it's not originally conceived by the GOP . . . similar or the exact same statements and quips have been going around for quite some time - especially the squirrel bit. It's been the butt of jokes. It was even used in some video posted on this forum about 'how the government can quit spending and start saving'

The idea that eliminating any of the programmes the Fox/RNC bulletins implicitly suggest ought to be eliminated on the left-hand side of the news release - assuming they've not been mischaracterized by either Fox or the RNC - will do anything to solve the debt problem is asinine. It is the lowest sort of populist pandering: "Aw shucks, a'hyuck, a'hyuck! Lookithese gubbmint eggheads and their robotic squirrels! Only Gawd can make squirrels!"

It's ludicrous. The sequester is dealing with tangible amounts of money that can be saved through programme elimination and consolidation. Medicare is one such programme. Robotic squirrels are not.

 

[Fisher]

These "facts", such as they are, are absurdly, absolutely trivial. The sequestration is going to slash nearly a hundred billion dollars a year, and we're going to do that by cutting $99,000 of "tax payer funded liquor", whatever the **** that is?

And I'm a proponent of things like laying off border guards and TSA agents. You want to talk about a 'nanny' State? Behold, the nannies. Medicare needs a nice axing also.

Hundreds of billions a year--what is your source for that?

 

[Aunt Spiker]

The idea that eliminating any of the programmes the Fox/RNC bulletins implicitly suggest ought to be eliminated on the left-hand side of the news release - assuming they've not been mischaracterized by either Fox or the RNC - will do anything to solve the debt problem is asinine. It is the lowest sort of populist pandering: "Aw shucks, a'hyuck, a'hyuck! Lookithese gubbmint eggheads and their robotic squirrels! Only Gawd can make squirrels!"

It's ludicrous. The sequester is dealing with tangible amounts of money that can be saved through programme elimination and consolidation. Medicare is one such programme. Robotic squirrels are not.

It just worked you all up into a tizzy, didn't it? LOL

I think the entire thing is stupid - but the actual point is that a little bit here and a little bit there can really add up. Especially coming from our government (see how I'm not partisan here - because all sides are guilty of this) They will complain they don't have the funds for this - or that - but yet there are bits and pieces going to the most absurd ****.

It's used - at least for me - to point out the absurdity of senseless government spending . . . from a government who has minions claiming to want to 'clean up government waste' . . . remember Clinton's Red-Tape A-thon? You know . . . that sort of thing.

I - at least - know that the government didn't directly fund any of this silly **** . . .they give grants and portions to schools, educational facilities - etc . . . and those facilities are the ones who ultimately make the decisions as to how it's spent and on what. It's not like the government-line-by-lines that crap.

 

[Einzige]

Hundreds of billions a year--what is your source for that?

The baseline cut in the Sequester is $83 billion. But government spending isn't linear - for every dollar you spend, the effect is multiplied. Consequentially, the tangible effect of, say, cutting spending on a programme by $100 becomes the equivalent of cutting $100 + x. I don't know the multiplier effect for the Sequester programmes precisely, but the end result will surely end up being as though you'd cut many hundreds of billions from the Federal budget.

 

[code1211]

Fox, Tucker Carlson Copy GOP Website, Report Press Release As News | The Daily Dolt

Are the items factual?

 

[code1211]

The baseline cut in the Sequester is $83 billion. But government spending isn't linear - for every dollar you spend, the effect is multiplied. Consequentially, the tangible effect of, say, cutting spending on a programme by $100 becomes the equivalent of cutting $100 + x. I don't know the multiplier effect for the Sequester programmes precisely, but the end result will surely end up being as though you'd cut many hundreds of billions from the Federal budget.

Well, that's a good thing to hope for.

 

[Utility Man]

:lamo

 

[rocket88]

Trust me, I'm outraged. For example, one can't live in California and not be outraged by what liberal/progressives have done to the state.

It worked out so well when Ahhhnold was governor.


(Now waits for the inevitable "no true Conservative" argument)

 

[ocean515]

It worked out so well when Ahhhnold was governor.


(Now waits for the inevitable "no true Conservative" argument)

Then why waste the time posting if you aren't willing to accept the truth?

Do you honestly think a Republican would have pushed for the economy crushing AB32 Global Warming Solutions Act, or the many other radical progressive measures he championed while in office?

 

[rocket88]

Then why waste the time posting if you aren't willing to accept the truth?

Do you honestly think a Republican would have pushed for the economy crushing AB32 Global Warming Solutions Act, or the many other radical progressive measures he championed while in office?

Who recalled Gray Davis? Why then was there this big need to replace him with a movie star who called himself a Republican? I mean seriously, you get a Republican in office and the second he does something you don't like you start screaming "RINO! RINO!"

Republicans = Democrats. Same thing, different label. Sometimes they have slightly different opinions, but until people get it through their skull that the substance between the two isn't that different, that's what you'll get.

 

[ocean515]

Who recalled Gray Davis? Why then was there this big need to replace him with a movie star who called himself a Republican? I mean seriously, you get a Republican in office and the second he does something you don't like you start screaming "RINO! RINO!"

Republicans = Democrats. Same thing, different label. Sometimes they have slightly different opinions, but until people get it through their skull that the substance between the two isn't that different, that's what you'll get.

Now that you have that off your chest, the fact is that liberal/progressive policies are responsible for the current economic reality in California. No other state has the same level of regulation and taxation.

The question becomes, what do Progressives plan to change in their national agenda, so the results seen in California are not duplicated?