Fox (faux) news

[LiberalAvenger]

I would like to share this email I was sent by "Media Matters"

It tell how Fox is masterminding the tea party.

"Is anyone in charge at Fox News?

This week was a bit of a mixed bag for the journalistic ethics of Fox News.

On the upside, we confirmed that News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch is familiar with the idea of journalistic standards. On the downside, Murdoch appears to be completely unaware that his news network doesn't have any.

Responding to a question from Media Matters VP Ari Rabin-Havt about whether Murdoch thinks it is appropriate for a news organization to aggressively promote the tea party movement, Murdoch stated that Fox shouldn't be "supporting the Tea Party or any other party." Murdoch added, "I'd like to investigate what you are saying before I condemn anyone."

First, a point of agreement with Murdoch: It's certainly true that a news organization shouldn't be promoting political movements. However, a question arises as to whether Murdoch has taken the opportunity to flip to Fox News at any point over the last year. If he had, odds are good that he would have stumbled across evidence of Fox's incessant promotion of the tea party movement.

Since he is apparently too busy to keep an eye on his own news network, we offered some assistance with Murdoch's "investigation." Some lowlights:

Fox Business anchor and "business journalist" Stuart Varney on April 13, 2009: "It's now my great duty to promote the tea parties. Here we go."
In the 10 days leading up to the Tax Day Tea Parties last year, Fox News aired more than 100 commercials promoting the protests and Fox's coverage of them.
Glenn Beck encouraged viewers to "please go" to "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties."
Fox Nation hosted a "virtual tea party" that was promoted on-air by news anchor Megyn Kelly, news host Bill Hemmer, and Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson.
On April 3, 2009, Hannity directed viewers to his website to "get all the details about our special 'Tax Day Tea Party.' " He later added, "We hope you'll join us."
And if that isn't enough to convince Murdoch, Fox News explicitly branded the protests "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties," and ran this image on multiple shows:



Murdoch didn't even need to watch Fox to learn of the network's promotion. After the tea parties, dozens of articles on local tea parties reported that Fox News helped to promote turnout at the events.

And all of those examples are just from the lead-up to the Tax Day Tea Parties last April. Since then, Fox's promotion of the tea party movement has continued unabated.

In fact, just two weeks ago Fox spent an entire day promoting "Conservative Woodstock." It was just like the real Woodstock, except it was an anti-Harry Reid tea party protest in Searchlight, Nevada, featuring the musical stylings of former Saturday Night Live cast member Victoria Jackson instead of Jimi Hendrix and Jefferson Airplane.

If Murdoch wants an even more recent example, this week Neil Cavuto started running ads promoting his coverage of an upcoming tea party protest that "some say could be a very, very heated rally."

But do let us know how that investigation turns out,...."

 

[Conservative]

I would like to share this email I was sent by "Media Matters"

It tell how Fox is masterminding the tea party.

"Is anyone in charge at Fox News?

This week was a bit of a mixed bag for the journalistic ethics of Fox News.

On the upside, we confirmed that News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch is familiar with the idea of journalistic standards. On the downside, Murdoch appears to be completely unaware that his news network doesn't have any.

Responding to a question from Media Matters VP Ari Rabin-Havt about whether Murdoch thinks it is appropriate for a news organization to aggressively promote the tea party movement, Murdoch stated that Fox shouldn't be "supporting the Tea Party or any other party." Murdoch added, "I'd like to investigate what you are saying before I condemn anyone."

First, a point of agreement with Murdoch: It's certainly true that a news organization shouldn't be promoting political movements. However, a question arises as to whether Murdoch has taken the opportunity to flip to Fox News at any point over the last year. If he had, odds are good that he would have stumbled across evidence of Fox's incessant promotion of the tea party movement.

Since he is apparently too busy to keep an eye on his own news network, we offered some assistance with Murdoch's "investigation." Some lowlights:

Fox Business anchor and "business journalist" Stuart Varney on April 13, 2009: "It's now my great duty to promote the tea parties. Here we go."
In the 10 days leading up to the Tax Day Tea Parties last year, Fox News aired more than 100 commercials promoting the protests and Fox's coverage of them.
Glenn Beck encouraged viewers to "please go" to "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties."
Fox Nation hosted a "virtual tea party" that was promoted on-air by news anchor Megyn Kelly, news host Bill Hemmer, and Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson.
On April 3, 2009, Hannity directed viewers to his website to "get all the details about our special 'Tax Day Tea Party.' " He later added, "We hope you'll join us."
And if that isn't enough to convince Murdoch, Fox News explicitly branded the protests "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties," and ran this image on multiple shows:



Murdoch didn't even need to watch Fox to learn of the network's promotion. After the tea parties, dozens of articles on local tea parties reported that Fox News helped to promote turnout at the events.

And all of those examples are just from the lead-up to the Tax Day Tea Parties last April. Since then, Fox's promotion of the tea party movement has continued unabated.

In fact, just two weeks ago Fox spent an entire day promoting "Conservative Woodstock." It was just like the real Woodstock, except it was an anti-Harry Reid tea party protest in Searchlight, Nevada, featuring the musical stylings of former Saturday Night Live cast member Victoria Jackson instead of Jimi Hendrix and Jefferson Airplane.

If Murdoch wants an even more recent example, this week Neil Cavuto started running ads promoting his coverage of an upcoming tea party protest that "some say could be a very, very heated rally."

But do let us know how that investigation turns out,...."

There is a book out, Obama Zombies by Jason Mattera. It describes the people at Media Matters and many in this forum to a tee. Suggest you read it.

 

[Arcana XV]

FoxNews should change its name to FoxConservativeOpEd.

Problem solved.

 

[Conservative]

FoxNews should change its name to FoxConservativeOpEd.

Problem solved.

If that is true, what should NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN change their names to? How about the ONN, Obama News Networks?

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

I don't see any problem whatsoever with a news organization promoting the activities of a political movement.

My problem with Fox News is that so much of its daily programming isn't news that it shouldn't be able to bill itself as a news channel.

I also don't like how they use their opinionators to promote the integrity of their news reporting.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

If that is true, what should NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN change their names to? How about the ONN, Obama News Networks?

Do you really want to do a comparison of how much of Fox's broadcast day is straight-up opinion programming, versus that of the other networks?

My issue isn't that a news network shouldn't have a political leaning. My issue is that you're either a news network -- in which case you can't use the "opinion" defense when you get called on your BS -- or you're not -- in which case you can't bill yourself as a news network.

ETA: ABC, CBS, and NBC don't bill themselves as news networks, they just have news departments. I don't know about MSNBC or CNBC since I don't watch them.

 

[Arcana XV]

If that is true, what should NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN change their names to? How about the ONN, Obama News Networks?

I don't know. I only watch FoxNews. All other American news channels are boring as ****, not to mention way too focused on local news.

 

[Conservative]

I don't see any problem whatsoever with a news organization promoting the activities of a political movement.

My problem with Fox News is that so much of its daily programming isn't news that it shouldn't be able to bill itself as a news channel.

I also don't like how they use their opinionators to promote the integrity of their news reporting.

Fox is the only network growing viewers and is still in less homes than CNN and MSNBC. People are sick and tired of the bias of MSNBC and CNN and are looking for a fair and balanced network which Fox is due to the fact that are are liberal contributors on all their Op ed programming.

Seems the public disagrees with you.

 

[Conservative]

Do you really want to do a comparison of how much of Fox's broadcast day is straight-up opinion programming, versus that of the other networks?

My issue isn't that a news network shouldn't have a political leaning. My issue is that you're either a news network -- in which case you can't use the "opinion" defense when you get called on your BS -- or you're not -- in which case you can't bill yourself as a news network.

ETA: ABC, CBS, and NBC don't bill themselves as news networks, they just have news departments. I don't know about MSNBC or CNBC since I don't watch them.

NBC is owned by GE and GE is in Obama's back pocket, its news is liberal biased and GE is getting a lot of monetary support from Obama

ABC and NBC lean left with their news and instead of reporting the news they create a lot of it.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

Fox is the only network growing viewers and is still in less homes than CNN and MSNBC. People are sick and tired of the bias of MSNBC and CNN and are looking for a fair and balanced network which Fox is due to the fact that are are liberal contributors on all their Op ed programming.

Seems the public disagrees with you.

Do you think I give two ****s and a **** what the public agrees or disagrees with?

Since when has the truth been a ****ing ballot measure?

Also, since when does being familiar with the ratings of the various networks give you any insight whatsoever into why there is a disparity in the ratings?

That's like saying that more people buy gasoline instead of diesel because gasoline tastes better.

 

[Captain America]

If that is true, what should NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN change their names to? How about the ONN, Obama News Networks?

Speakin' of which. Has anyone ever wondered, if there was only one overtly, left wing, propaganda cable news station, (instead of 3 or 4 ranging from centrist to whacko left as Conservative points out) just as there is just only one right wing propaganda station, what that cable stations ratings would be like?

The channels catering to the left side of whacko have to share the wealth.

FOX has it made in the shade not having to compete with any other overtly rightwing propaganda channels. They have the whole flock to themselves! That should make for GREAT ratings!

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

NBC is owned by GE and GE is in Obama's back pocket, its news is liberal biased and GE is getting a lot of monetary support from Obama

ABC and NBC lean left with their news and instead of reporting the news they create a lot of it.

So, I take it then that you don't want to do an actual, factual comparison of the sheer volume of straight-up opinion programming on Fox versus the other networks. True dat, I can see why you wouldn't want to end up looking foolish.

That said, I shall repeat: ABC, NBC, and CBS don't bill themselves as news networks, unlike Fox. If Fox stopped billing itself as a news network, I'd be okay with the fact that it leans so far to the right it's hanging upside down.

 

[Conservative]

Do you think I give two ****s and a **** what the public agrees or disagrees with?

Since when has the truth been a ****ing ballot measure?

Also, since when does being familiar with the ratings of the various networks give you any insight whatsoever into why there is a disparity in the ratings?

That's like saying that more people buy gasoline instead of diesel because gasoline tastes better.

Obiously the truth doesn't matter to the Obama Zombies as they ignore it to continue to attack Fox News, Glenn Beck, or anyone else whose message exposes what is going on in the country. None of these Zombies address the content of the message but instead attack the messenger.

Obama Zombies have to destroy the messenger to divert from the message.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

Obiously the truth doesn't matter to the Obama Zombies as they ignore it to continue to attack Fox News, Glenn Beck, or anyone else whose message exposes what is going on in the country. None of these Zombies address the content of the message but instead attack the messenger.

Obama Zombies have to destroy the messenger to divert from the message.

Okay, so I guess you don't want to address my comment in any shape or form, and instead take the opportunity to address your own agenda.

Roger that.

 

[Captain America]

Who in their right mind, left or right, doesn't recognize Beck as a media clown? Only the more extremo's even give him any measurable credibility and they are a very lonely bunch.

It's one thing to be entertained by Beck. He certainly is entertaining. But to take his views as seriously as some people do speaks more about that person than it does about Beck.

Just sayin'. :roll:

 

[digsbe]

I would like to share this email I was sent by "Media Matters"

Media Matters is bias garbage. Of course they will attack Fox for being critical of the Obama administration. Obama himself acted like an arrogant man-child when he denounced Fox as "not a news network" because they don't propogate his majestic glory :doh

How can we trust an openly bias outlet who's goal is to attack conservative media?

Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Above taken from the Media Matters site itself. About Us | Media Matters for America

 

[Conservative]

Who in their right mind, left or right, doesn't recognize Beck as a media clown? Only the more extremo's even give him any measurable credibility and they are a very lonely bunch.

It's one thing to be entertained by Beck. He certainly is entertaining. But to take his views as seriously as some people do speaks more about that person than it does about Beck.

Just sayin'. :roll:

Notice that no one attacks the message of Beck only his delivery and the man.

 

[Captain America]

Obiously the truth doesn't matter to the Obama Zombies as they ignore it to continue to attack Fox News, Glenn Beck, or anyone else whose message exposes what is going on in the country. None of these Zombies address the content of the message but instead attack the messenger.

Obama Zombies have to destroy the messenger to divert from the message.

I think it's more correct to say that YOUR truth really doesn't matter that much.

In this day and age, it is almost impossible to piss in somebody's hair and convince them it's raining.

It must be lonely out there on the perimeter.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

Who in their right mind, left or right, doesn't recognize Beck as a media clown?

I dunno, it's pretty obvious to me. I just want "news" networks to at least pretend to dedicate the lion's share of their airtime to news.

Only the more extremo's even give him any measurable credibility and they are a very lonely bunch.

Not so sure that they're all that lonely a bunch...

It's one thing to be entertained by Beck. He certainly is entertaining. But to take his views as seriously as some people do speaks more about that person than it does about Beck.

Just sayin'. :roll:

Can't argue with you there.

 

[Conservative]

I think it's more correct to say that YOUR truth really doesn't matter that much.

In this day and age, it is almost impossible to piss in somebody's hair and convince them it's raining.

It must be lonely out there on the perimeter.

It is never lonely when the facts are on your side. I recognize facts vs. opinions and am guided by the reality in those facts.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

I would like to share this email I was sent by "Media Matters"

Media Matters is bias garbage. Of course they will attack Fox for being critical of the Obama administration. Obama himself acted like an arrogant man-child when he denounced Fox as "not a news network" because they don't propogate his majestic glory :doh

How can we trust an openly bias outlet who's goal is to attack conservative media?
Above taken from the Media Matters site itself. About Us | Media Matters for America

Why are you reposting your OP?

 

[digsbe]

Why are you reposting your OP?

That was my first post in this thread.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

That was my first post in this thread.

Wow, I need to lay off the cold meds. :lol:

Sorry about that.

 

[Captain America]

Notice that no one attacks the message of Beck only his delivery and the man.

I am guilty of doing the same to Maddow. Her facts are solid. Her delivery sucks.

There is no shortage of pundits on the airwaves capitolizing on dividing, inciting discord and driving their wedges deeper and deeper into the heart of America all for the sake of ratings and monetary gain. Beck, Maddow, Olbermann, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, just to name a few.

They are the internal "Tokyo Rose." To give credibility to any of them only serves to enable and further divide our nation. Those that do should question their own loyalty as Americans.

 

[digsbe]

Wow, I need to lay off the cold meds. :lol:

Sorry about that.

Haha it's no problem. It's all good