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"Four San Francisco protesters hit by car in ‘possible intentional act’..."

HumblePi said:
I haven't found her video since the reddit poster removed it, but in the meantime, here's the story from Colorado;
https://www.9news.com/article/news/...ueblo/73-8cc1e52c-bb6d-4656-a7ff-e430e9487a09
PUEBLO, Colo. — Pueblo Police say two people were arrested at the 'No Kings' protest in the Steel City, one of them arrested while in possession of a firearm, according to 9NEWS sister station KRDO in Colorado Springs.

In a video shared with KRDO13, several men in neon vests, reading 'security' on the back, are seen pinning a woman down on the ground before police officers come in to take her away.
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‘This is a rifle!’: Alert bystander spotted the man who had a gun at the Salt Lake City ‘No Kings’ march https://www.sltrib.com/news/2025/06/15/slc-no-kings-march-bystander/
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A man dressed in black was squatting quietly with a group of “No Kings” protesters taking refuge in the corner alcove of a downtown building, after gunshots had disrupted the end of a peaceful march of 10,000 from Pioneer Park.
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At a Sunday news conference, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd confirmed Gamboa had been discovered hiding with protesters.

“The crowd actually pointed him out to law enforcement,” Redd said, “and their actions were heroic.”

Redd said officers found an AR-15 style rifle and a gas mask inside the backpack.

The police chief said investigators believe a man who was apparently part of the event’s “peacekeeping” team had fired the shot that ultimately killed Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, a 39-year-old Clearfield man who was participating in the march.
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By the end of today our MAGA friends will have Trumpsplained to us that the Salt Lake shooters were cross-dressing illegal immigrants with MS-13 ties, and treated us to a picture of the victim at some point in his life wearing a Hoodie.

Then we will get photographic proof that at least one of the San Francisco car attack victims was a fat chick. I'm sure at least one more had a prior for jaywalking which of course means they had it coming ...🙄
 
uptower said:
So the cops just let him go after running into a crowd, right?

Oh wait.
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You are just going to love this. Much like immigration law, protestors get away with more than they should. You do not have a "right" to prevent others from travelling, you do not have a "right" to harass people. You do not have a "right" to damage their vehicle.

If you accelerate into a crowd as opposed to the crowd surrounding you, the police are still going to want to sort the incident out.
 
uptower said:
By the end of today our MAGA friends will have Trumpsplained to us that the Salt Lake shooters were cross-dressing illegal immigrants with MS-13 ties, and treated us to a picture of the victim at some point in his life wearing a Hoodie.

Then we will get photographic proof that at least one of the San Francisco car attack victims was a fat chick. I'm sure at least one more had a prior for jaywalking which of course means they had it coming ...🙄
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Strawman much?
 
HumblePi said:
I haven't found her video since the reddit poster removed it, but in the meantime, here's the story from Colorado;
https://www.9news.com/article/news/...ueblo/73-8cc1e52c-bb6d-4656-a7ff-e430e9487a09
PUEBLO, Colo. — Pueblo Police say two people were arrested at the 'No Kings' protest in the Steel City, one of them arrested while in possession of a firearm, according to 9NEWS sister station KRDO in Colorado Springs.

In a video shared with KRDO13, several men in neon vests, reading 'security' on the back, are seen pinning a woman down on the ground before police officers come in to take her away.
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‘This is a rifle!’: Alert bystander spotted the man who had a gun at the Salt Lake City ‘No Kings’ march https://www.sltrib.com/news/2025/06/15/slc-no-kings-march-bystander/
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A man dressed in black was squatting quietly with a group of “No Kings” protesters taking refuge in the corner alcove of a downtown building, after gunshots had disrupted the end of a peaceful march of 10,000 from Pioneer Park.
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At a Sunday news conference, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd confirmed Gamboa had been discovered hiding with protesters.

“The crowd actually pointed him out to law enforcement,” Redd said, “and their actions were heroic.”

Redd said officers found an AR-15 style rifle and a gas mask inside the backpack.

The police chief said investigators believe a man who was apparently part of the event’s “peacekeeping” team had fired the shot that ultimately killed Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, a 39-year-old Clearfield man who was participating in the march.
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So let me get this straight. The man with a rifle did not fire a shot. A man was killed by another man wearing a green vest saying security.

I have watched a number of videos with these green "security" vests people. Many of them are extremely provocative towards anybody not on the we hate Trump side. Who are these people? Who pays for them?
 
OpportunityCost said:
You are just going to love this. Much like immigration law, protestors get away with more than they should. You do not have a "right" to prevent others from travelling, you do not have a "right" to harass people. You do not have a "right" to damage their vehicle.

If you accelerate into a crowd as opposed to the crowd surrounding you, the police are still going to want to sort the incident out.
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He accelerated into a crowd.

And you're doing just what I said a minute ago: trying to blame the victims.

Getting hit by an asshole is not just punishment for slowing or stopping traffic, even if that were his only concern. That's why he got arrested.
 
OpportunityCost said:
www.nbclosangeles.com

Good Samaritan Remembers the LA Riots 20 Years Later: “I Had to Do Something”

Titus Murphy was watching the violence of the LA Riots unfold on TV a few blocks away. After the brick was thrown at truck driver Reginald Denny, Murphy could no longer just watch. “Something inside me said, ‘Get up; you have to do something,” he said.
www.nbclosangeles.com www.nbclosangeles.com

I did make a mistake, he suffered life altering injuries but he did live. Skull fractured, unable to walk, multiple surgeries.

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No. THIS person. The one who plowed into a crowd in San Francisco.

He was surrounded and his property and body were injured?

Because that was your excuse for someone runnning protesters down.
 
dcsports said:
200,000? lol. Exaggerate much?

No, protests should be in parks and other public areas. Perhaps a street if the city has closed it for that purpose.



No one is suggesting it here. It's coming up because of this more recent tactic of swarming roadways and assaulting people in cars.
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I see, so as far as you're concerned protests should be made away from the people they are aimed at. Out of sight, out of mind. Is that it? What would be the point?
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
No. THIS person. The one who plowed into a crowd in San Francisco.

He was surrounded and his property and body were injured?

Because that was your excuse for someone runnning protesters down.
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I am not making any excuses for anyone. I am saying why it could happen. I do not condone it; I do understand it.
 
OpportunityCost said:
I am not making any excuses for anyone. I am saying why it could happen.
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Um, literally anything "could" happen.

It hasn't in these protests, though. 🤷‍♀️

OpportunityCost said:
I do not condone it; I do understand it.
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Wait, what?

You understand someone driving directly into a crowd of protesters???

And further...you understand someone driving directly into a crowd of protesters, because three decades ago in an entirely different city an 8-hour drive away, someone got injured by a crowd of protesters?
 
uptower said:
He accelerated into a crowd.

And you're doing just what I said a minute ago: trying to blame the victims.

Getting hit by an asshole is not just punishment for slowing or stopping traffic, even if that were his only concern. That's why he got arrested.
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I am not trying to blame the victims. I am saying drivers that do slow down and stop can wind up being victims.

If this guy accelerated into the crowd, prosecute the guy. I bet there will be some footage that will show the event one way or the other.
 
reinaert said:
Sure you are. Why not just make it plain people should not have tons of rolling steel slammed into them for peaceful assembly? Why so difficult?
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It's that peaceful part that is in question.
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
Um, literally anything "could" happen.

It hasn't in these protests, though. 🤷‍♀️



Wait, what?

You understand someone driving directly into a crowd of protesters???

And further...you understand someone driving directly into a crowd of protesters, because three decades ago in an entirely different city an 8-hour drive away, someone got injured by a crowd of protesters?
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First off, I am again saying that under some circumstances, drivers aren't given a choice. Protestors have been known to damage cars and threaten drivers and people in cars.

How far away and how long ago do not change the circumstances. If anything, they are more likely now than they were 30 years ago. I understand protestors moving to encircle your car can be dangerous for both sides. If that is not the case here, the driver needs to be prosecuted.
 
uptower said:
A strawman would be presenting a false argument to 'refute'. I don't care enough to do that. I'm just saying the inevitable distractions and smears will land pretty soon regardless.
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No. A strawman is presenting something as someone else's argument, which you already did.
 
dcsports said:
roflol. You made a claim about the size of the protest, I pointed out that it's absurd, and you get defensive. I'm not interested in your deflections.
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You must not have seen pictures from the protests.
 
snakestretcher said:
'Parks and closed streets', you said. Pointless and self-defeating.
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Yes, that is what I said. To keep protesters and the public safe, and minimize disruption to people trying to live their lives and conduct business.

Blocking active streets is pointless and self defeating to the protestors - as well as being unsafe, and disruptive.
 
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