Former Ukraine prosecutor makes explosive claims against Joe and Hunter Biden in new interview

[TangoNoCash]

BUt..............TRUMP!

Can‘t address the hypocrisy and slides right into deflection exactly as expected. Thanks for the confirmation that your rules should only apply to Democrats.

 

[IQ57]

It would be nice if people didn’t keep brining up Trump in threads that aren’t about Trump.

This thread is about Joe Biden. It’s about his corruption. You’d think people would care because he is the sitting resident in the White House currently. Doesn’t that bother anyone?

Take your TDS elsewhere. There are literally endless threads on Trump, and this ain’t one of them.

 

[j brown's body]

OMG! You're Hunter Biden. A known drug addict drifter who subsists on influence peddling by his daddy. He talks to Burisma and says "Look, you guys, my daddy is not my drug kingpin, but he is the influence-peddling kingpin and you guys are toast if you don't pretend I am on the board. I'll take, oh....let's say 80K a month for funneling your secret information to the IP Kingpin, and as I told the boys in China, the Biden family doesn't mess around. All I need from you is to know when Shokin is getting close. Otherwise don't call me. I have a real life of hookers and crack cocaine. Kapeesh?"

What influence did he peddle?

"Dig up, stupid!"

 

[Objective Voice]

OMG! You're Hunter Biden. A known drug addict drifter who subsists on influence peddling by his daddy. He talks to Burisma and says "Look, you guys, my daddy is not my drug kingpin, but he is the influence-peddling kingpin and you guys are toast if you don't pretend I am on the board. I'll take, oh....let's say 80K a month for funneling your secret information to the IP Kingpin, and as I told the boys in China, the Biden family doesn't mess around. All I need from you is to know when Shokin is getting close. Otherwise don't call me. I have a real life of hookers and crack cocaine. Kapeesh?"

And I thought I had an active imagination.

What company in their right mind would hire someone under those conditions? Think about what you just posted.

You claim to be a businessman. Would you hire Hunter Biden if he confessed such a short-coming during a job interview? You'd have to be a complete idiot to do it or extremely desperate believing you can control the situation. I mean, all you'd have to do is remove the middleman - Joe Biden - and start supply Hunter his illicit drugs yourself. Then you could get Hunter to do anything you wanted. So, why didn't they?

 

[WillyPete]

So 2-3 years is WAY to long to wait to release a cornucopia of courtroom-ready evidence from a galaxy of sources against Trump...

...but unsworn claims about an incident 8 years ago from a guy known to be corrupt deserve our unfettered attention?

Come on goofballs. We know you know better than that.

 

[Fletch]

Actual evidence, not the claims and innuendo the MAGA heads in Congress are trying to pass off as evidence.

For example the screaming about the FD-1023 that they claim "proves" Joe Biden was involved in some sort of bribery scheme.

In that document, the very document they (and probably you) are claiming is evidence, is the statement "CHS has only met Zlochevsky in person on one occasion and has spoken to him only twice on the telephone; as such, CHS is not able to provide any further opinion as to the veracity of Zlochevsky's aforementioned statements."

CHS are the initials of the person who filled out the form and they say they cannot vouch for the veracity of Zlochevsy's statements. This form is simply a form that details what Zlochevsky told CHS...with nothing actually backing up what Zlochevsky said.

Yet an unverified, politically created dossier was enough 'evidence' to launch numerous years-long probes into trump. Sorry, but the 'nothing to see here' claims by the left dont cut it. We know Hunter was cashing in on his access to his father and we know the Big Guy was lying when he said he never talked to his son about his foreign business deals

 

[Paradoxical]

Can‘t address the hypocrisy and slides right into deflection exactly as expected. Thanks for the confirmation that your rules should only apply to Democrats.

But............TRUMP did it

 

[j brown's body]

Yeah, she's a real beauty, aint she?

And she still can't answer the question.

 

[Fletch]

This is why Biden should have gone no where near that case. Anyone with even a basic understanding of conflict of interest policy knows that, while in a position of authority, you don’t go near a matter where there is a financial interest of a family member involved. And in this case we are talking about the prosecution of a man whose company was paying Hunter Biden millions of dollars to lobby.

That this was so obvious a conflict of interest, and that VP Biden didn’t recuse himself, only makes the matter look more suspicious.

The problem is that if Biden did that, Hunter wouldnt have been able to earn a penny. No Big Guy, no big dollars.

 

[j brown's body]

Yet an unverified, politically created dossier was enough 'evidence' to launch numerous years-long probes into trump. Sorry, but the 'nothing to see here' claims by the left dont cut it. We know Hunter was cashing in on his access to his father and we know the Big Guy was lying when he said he never talked to his son about his foreign business deals

Trump encouraging Russia to hack emails and then using those illegally hacked emails occurred before our eyes. So did the Russia meeting in Trump Tower.

Meanwhile you want to impeach Biden for asking his son, "how's business?" because it proves he talked to his son about business.

Your desperation should embarrass you.

 

[j brown's body]

The problem is that if Biden did that, Hunter wouldnt have been able to earn a penny. No Big Guy, no big dollars.

Why not?

 

[Objective Voice]

Come now, Paradoxical. Surely, you can do better than be dismissive.

In every criminal act there is a transaction of some sort. Your side claims the Biden's got paid millions to either: a) use VP Biden's political influence with his son as an accomplice, thus, changing U.S./Ukraine foreign policy. However, you've never stated exactly what the foreign policy was or how exactly it was changed; or, b) to protect Zlochevsky/Burisma, but from what? That hasn't been detailed either.

You keep saying these things are irrelevant to why Hunter Biden was hired. Seems to me if Hunter was to play a role in his father changing U.S. foreign policy and get paid in exchange for having done so, knowing what was changed and how such benefited Zlochevsky, Burisma and/or Ukraine would be very relevant. Wouldn't you agree?

But let's say it was protection Zlochevsky/Burisma wanted/needed. How exactly is such protection applied to either Zlochevsky or Burisma? Was security measures increased for Zlochevsky? Clearly not since his assets were seized and he was exiled for a time. Was Burisma in an danger of going under? Possibly, if their oil contracts aren't approved. But how do the Biden's fit into this since they have no power to approve those contracts?

Foreign policy is not made by a criminal VP using his son.

And what foreign policy was that? Please be specific.

What was U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine before VP Biden's visit to Ukraine which led to Shokin's firing and what was it after the fact?

What changed? Again, be specific.

You mentioned Hunter and Joe being involved in foreign policy, did you not?

And I asked you to outline what that foreign policy was pre- and post- VP Biden's 2016 visit to Ukraine demanding they fire Prosecutor General Shokin and you've yet to outline what that policy was and how it was changed and all you've done is fall back on the "Hunter Biden = drug addict" schtick. You've even tried to have it both ways first by saying...

Foreign policy is not made by a criminal VP using his son.

...which is true, but you don't explain how the son had any influence on his father to convince him to change U.S. foreign policy concerning Ukraine.

Do better.

 

[TangoNoCash]

It would be nice if people didn’t keep brining up Trump in threads that aren’t about Trump.

This thread is about Joe Biden.

Take your TDS elsewhere. There are literally endless threads on Trump, and this ain’t one of them.

I understand nobody likes their hypocrisy called out but you guys are just being silly. Laughing that Biden will be humiliated by pleading the 5th based on a fictional story while ignoring that it already happened to a president and you couldn’t have cared less is a bit stunning but not surprising.

 

[Paradoxical]

What influence did he peddle?

"Dig up, stupid!"

You with these continual "why" type questions.

The better question is: "What influence did Joe NOT peddle"?

 

[Fletch]

And I thought I had an active imagination.

What company in their right mind would hire someone under those conditions? Think about what you just posted.

You claim to be a businessman. Would you hire Hunter Biden if he confessed such a short-coming during a job interview? You'd have to be a complete idiot to do it or extremely desperate believing you can control the situation. I mean, all you'd have to do is remove the middleman - Joe Biden - and start supply Hunter his illicit drugs yourself. Then you could get Hunter to do anything you wanted. So, why didn't they?

Lol, because without Joe Biden, what would they need Hunter for?

 

[Paradoxical]

And I thought I had an active imagination.

What company in their right mind would hire someone under those conditions? Think about what you just posted.

You claim to be a businessman. Would you hire Hunter Biden if he confessed such a short-coming during a job interview? You'd have to be a complete idiot to do it or extremely desperate believing you can control the situation. I mean, all you'd have to do is remove the middleman - Joe Biden - and start supply Hunter his illicit drugs yourself. Then you could get Hunter to do anything you wanted. So, why didn't they?

You are not hiring Hunter. You are hiring the I-P Kingpin.

Do you really think the bagmen are Einsteins?

 

[Paradoxical]

Lol, because without Joe Biden, what would they need Hunter for?

They refuse to answer that question.

 

[TomFitz]

You weren't here. What are Hunters 21 businesses?

I fail to see anything other than abject hypocracy in your ranting about 21 LLC’s out of one side of your mouth, when you spent years bragging about your fuhrer’s 1500 “businesses”.

 

[MTAtech]

When I think someone is incredibly stupid, I use "stoopid" because stoopid people can't spell it correctly. It would apply to really "stoopid" people like Kamala and Joe. You know, dumb and dumber.

Neither President Biden nor VP Harris are dumb and I'd put their intelligence up against the Former Guy, who thought George Washington captured airports during the Revolutionary War and thought he was a stable genius because he could identify a drawing of an elephant. I'd also put them up against you, a poster who routinely posts are mostly inane.

 

[TomFitz]

This is why Biden should have gone no where near that case. Anyone with even a basic understanding of conflict of interest policy knows that, while in a position of authority, you don’t go near a matter where there is a financial interest of a family member involved. And in this case we are talking about the prosecution of a man whose company was paying Hunter Biden millions of dollars to lobby.

That this was so obvious a conflict of interest, and that VP Biden didn’t recuse himself, only makes the matter look more suspicious.

Unless you’re Donald Trump. Who made it a standing policy.

Taht’s what’s so pathetic about this nonsense. This is nothing more than the same gang that ran the Zelensky blackmail scheme trying ot keep the same tropes alive as a Benghazi style counter narrative to Trump’s 91 indictments.

Accusing Biden of doing what Trump already did.

And keeping it in right wing media so they won’t have to talk about the foundering fuhrer they once so loudly promoted (and still are).

 

[TangoNoCash]

Neither President Biden nor VP Harris are dumb and I'd put their intelligence up against the Former Guy, who thought George Washington captured airports during the Revolutionary War and thought he was a stable genius because he could identify a drawing of an elephant. I'd also put them up against you, a poster who routinely posts are mostly inane.

Not to mention he didn’t know how to color a US flag. What a patriot.

 

[Fletch]

Trump encouraging Russia to hack emails and then using those illegally hacked emails occurred before our eyes. So did the Russia meeting in Trump Tower.

Meanwhile you want to impeach Biden for asking his son, "how's business?" because it proves he talked to his son about business.

Your desperation should embarrass you.

Your history is foggy. The leaked emails were from Podesta and the DNC, not from Hillarys server and the hack was done before trump ever said anything. And if you believe that joe talked to Hunter every day, met with his business associated, took Hunter on AF2 to meet his clients and Hunters business never once came up, it is you who are desperate.

 

[Fletch]

I fail to see anything other than abject hypocracy in your ranting about 21 LLC’s out of one side of your mouth, when you spent years bragging about your fuhrer’s 1500 “businesses”.

So now that youve gotten your whataboutism out of the way, how about answering the question.

 

[Paradoxical]

I fail to see anything other than abject hypocracy in your ranting about 21 LLC’s out of one side of your mouth, when you spent years bragging about your fuhrer’s 1500 “businesses”.

So, ummmm, NO known business except influence peddling?

 

[Fletch]

Unless you’re Donald Trump. Who made it a standing policy.

Taht’s what’s so pathetic about this nonsense. This is nothing more than the same gang that ran the Zelensky blackmail scheme trying ot keep the same tropes alive as a Benghazi style counter narrative to Trump’s 91 indictments.

Accusing Biden of doing what Trump already did.

And keeping it in right wing media so they won’t have to talk about the foundering fuhrer they once so loudly promoted (and still are).

Dishonest nonsense. All we do here and have done here for the last 7 years is talk about Trump. We mention your senile Fuhrer and you bring up trump. So it is YOU and your ilk that is unwilling to discuss anything related to Clueless Joe.