Former Ukraine prosecutor makes explosive claims against Joe and Hunter Biden in new interview

[snakestretcher]

Says the one that wouldn't accept a signed confession or a picture of Joe himself taking a bag of money.

See, that would be something called 'evidence'. You may have heard of it (it's used in law courts to determine one's innocence or guilt). In the meantime by all means keep throwing out baseless and evidence-free accusations and assumptions, and we'll continue to laugh at how dumb they are.

 

[snakestretcher]

Ummmm, having had an LLC in California I hardly need your advice. NO ONE needs 20 of them.

As for the Biden's being poor, here ya go:

According to my sources, Joe Biden owns two homes. One is his main residence in Wilmington, Delaware, worth $2.9 million1. The other is a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, estimated to be worth $1.9 million1

In July 2021, TMZ revealed Hunter Biden had moved to a gorgeous rental home in Malibu, California2. The house is said to be located just a mile from the ocean and costs Biden $20,000 a month in rent2. It is 3,000-square-feet and has 4 bedrooms along with 2.5 bathrooms2, and reportedly sold for $3.34 million in 2019


According to my sources, James Biden, the brother of former Vice President Joe Biden, has placed his Merion Station, PA, home on the market1. He and his wife Sara Jones Biden are asking $1.95 million for the Mediterranean-style villa

No one 'needs' 23 guitars either. But I have 23 guitars. Jay Leno doesn't 'need' 180 cars and 160 motorbikes either, but he has them. Nobody 'needs' $2.5 billion dollars, which Trump claims he's worth. Learn the difference between 'want' and 'need', and you might be getting somewhere. Your point again?

 

[Callen]

Bear in mind here that that Deputy Prosecutor under Shokin stated that neither Shokin or the Prosecutors office were actively investigating Burisma and your hero Devin Archer even testified that nobody at Burisma appeared to be overly concerned about Shokin and that word was that Shokin "was under control" and that if Shokin were to be removed from office it would a bad thing for Burisma.

And really if you're going to be quoting the Daily Caller you have already given up on obtaining the real facts.

It will never matter. They ignore the facts which have been spoon fed to them over and over and they refuse to do any independent facts based research. The information is all out there in many, many forms including State Department testimony , the press releases about the purpose of the Biden visit, readouts of calls with Ukraine officials during the Obama years and so much more. However, their preference is to be told by RW media and politicians slivers of things woven into imagined nefarious acts. It's way easier to accept what you are told than it is to do the leg work of getting to the facts.......easier and CT's are way more fun than the boring truth. How often do we see RW media pundits quoted here without any real value added by the poster ? It is a sign of intellectual laziness.

 

[snakestretcher]

Its amazing how the left was so adept at connecting non-existent dots when it come to the collusion hoax, but cant connect the obvious, blaring dots when it comes to Biden.

Do you have any evidence for us to connect the dots with where the Biden's are concerned? I'll gladly play if you have; but you don't have anything except partisan bias, assumption and 'but everyone knows', just like your pal @Paradoxical

 

[Objective Voice]

urAll irrelevant to why Hunter was hired.

Come now, Paradoxical. Surely, you can do better than be dismissive.

In every criminal act there is a transaction of some sort. Your side claims the Biden's got paid millions to either: a) use VP Biden's political influence with his son as an accomplice, thus, changing U.S./Ukraine foreign policy. However, you've never stated exactly what the foreign policy was or how exactly it was changed; or, b) to protect Zlochevsky/Burisma, but from what? That hasn't been detailed either.

You keep saying these things are irrelevant to why Hunter Biden was hired. Seems to me if Hunter was to play a role in his father changing U.S. foreign policy and get paid in exchange for having done so, knowing what was changed and how such benefited Zlochevsky, Burisma and/or Ukraine would be very relevant. Wouldn't you agree?

But let's say it was protection Zlochevsky/Burisma wanted/needed. How exactly is such protection applied to either Zlochevsky or Burisma? Was security measures increased for Zlochevsky? Clearly not since his assets were seized and he was exiled for a time. Was Burisma in an danger of going under? Possibly, if their oil contracts aren't approved. But how do the Biden's fit into this since they have no power to approve those contracts?

 

[snakestretcher]

Come now, Paradoxical. Surely, you can do better than be dismissive.

In every criminal act there is a transaction of some sort. Your side claims the Biden's got paid millions to either: a) use VP Biden's political influence with his son as an accomplice, thus, changing U.S./Ukraine foreign policy. However, you've never stated exactly what the foreign policy was or how exactly it was changed; or, b) to protect Zlochevsky/Burisma, but from what? That hasn't been detailed either.

You keep saying these things are irrelevant to why Hunter Biden was hired. Seems to me if Hunter was to play a role in his father changing U.S. foreign policy and get paid in exchange for having done so, knowing what was changed and how such benefited Zlochevsky, Burisma and/or Ukraine would be very relevant. Wouldn't you agree?

But let's say it was protection Zlochevsky/Burisma wanted/needed. How exactly is such protection applied to either Zlochevsky or Burisma? Was security measures increased for Zlochevsky? Clearly not since his assets were seized and he was exiled for a time. Was Burisma in an danger of going under? Possibly, if their oil contracts aren't approved. But how do the Biden's fit into this since they have no power to approve those contracts?

You won't get a coherent response.

 

[Objective Voice]

Ummmm, having had an LLC in California I hardly need your advice. NO ONE needs 20 of them.

As for the Biden's being poor, here ya go:

According to my sources, Joe Biden owns two homes. One is his main residence in Wilmington, Delaware, worth $2.9 million1. The other is a vacation home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, estimated to be worth $1.9 million1

In July 2021, TMZ revealed Hunter Biden had moved to a gorgeous rental home in Malibu, California2. The house is said to be located just a mile from the ocean and costs Biden $20,000 a month in rent2. It is 3,000-square-feet and has 4 bedrooms along with 2.5 bathrooms2, and reportedly sold for $3.34 million in 2019


According to my sources, James Biden, the brother of former Vice President Joe Biden, has placed his Merion Station, PA, home on the market1. He and his wife Sara Jones Biden are asking $1.95 million for the Mediterranean-style villa

Another stupid retort.

Trump owns multiple properties in several states across the country - NY, NJ and FL to name just three. Have you ever heard of Trump steaks? Trump airline? Trump wine? Trump NFTs? Truth Social?

Trump has (or had) 4 residents at one point: Trump Tower*, Mar-a-Lago, Betminster and the Trump DC Hotel*. Why doesn't Trump receive the same criticism for owning multiple properties. Furthermore, no one questions where Don Jr, Eric, or Tiffany lives or how their rents are paid. Do any of them really have a job?

Oh, and have you ever heard of a "Trump Mark"? If not, you should look that up. Somewhere among the Google, you'll find a list of every "business" Trump started or bears his name (at least up until around 2015).

 

[TomFitz]

Are you the one who believes Trump colluded with Russia and that Joe Biden wanted to go after tooth and nail the company his son was raking in 80K a month at for doing something Joe claims he didn't know??

OMG!

Trump did collude with Russians. Taht is very well documented. Trump is still financially dependent on them.

Biden executed the official foreign policy of the United States.

 

[Objective Voice]

You won't get a coherent response.

I'm sure I won't, but somebody's got to force folks like him to engage their .

 

[TomFitz]

I find this whole Hunter Biden affair to be a puzzle box within a puzzle box. Complicating it is Joe Bidens pathological need to lie about himself and to make every event about him. Was the prosecutor in Ukraine as bad as some claim and needing removed? Was he actually investigating Bursima? Did Biden really have anything thing to do with the guys removal or was he lie bragging again?

And how is it that his own son was on the board of a claimed corrupt organization, threatening to go to the big guy as needed, while Joe is pretending to be their enemy?

Will we ever get to the truth?

Just remember that the “some” in “some claim” are the United States, the European Union, and NATO.

You also seem to be confused about who has a “pathological led to lie about himself and make every event about him”.

This is behavior you should be very very familiar with if you were a trump supporter. Trump never walked past a mirror or a television without stopping to admire himself.

Shokin inherited an investigation of Burisma and buried it.

Biden was not the decision maker regarding the policy to call for Shokin’s ouster. Vice Presidents do not have that authority. Unless that authority is delegated by the PResident, which it was in this case.

It does seem clear that Hunter was hired in an effort to keep the heat off Burisma and Shokin. It obviously didn’t work.

Are you really interested in the truth???????

Do you want to talk aobut Guliani rushing off the Kiev to talk to Ukranian politicians with Russian ties, or Russian intelligence operatives?

Do you want to discuss the incredibly dodgy story of how Hunter’s laptop contents wound up in Guliani’s hands?

Or do you just want to cling to this ginned up scandal as a counternarrative to Trump’s criminality.

Your attempt to project Trump’s behavior onto Biden suggests you’re not really interested In the truth, but you are interested in keeping this Benghazi style narrative alive.

 

[Nwolfe35]

What sort of evidence would convince you?

Actual evidence, not the claims and innuendo the MAGA heads in Congress are trying to pass off as evidence.

For example the screaming about the FD-1023 that they claim "proves" Joe Biden was involved in some sort of bribery scheme.

In that document, the very document they (and probably you) are claiming is evidence, is the statement "CHS has only met Zlochevsky in person on one occasion and has spoken to him only twice on the telephone; as such, CHS is not able to provide any further opinion as to the veracity of Zlochevsky's aforementioned statements."

CHS are the initials of the person who filled out the form and they say they cannot vouch for the veracity of Zlochevsy's statements. This form is simply a form that details what Zlochevsky told CHS...with nothing actually backing up what Zlochevsky said.

 

[Paradoxical]

I can see critical thinking isn't your strong suit.

If the corruption was on the Ukrainian government's side and not within Burisma, then investigating Burisma wouldn't have done Shokin any good as he'd be looking in the wrong place, and that would explain why he was fired.

One missing piece of the puzzle in all this Zlochevsky/Bursima/Hunter/Joe Biden allegation is "what exactly Joe Biden via his son provide Zlochevsky? What exactly was the up-side for Hunter and Joe? After all, Zlochevsky had $23M of his assets frozen, and he was exiled out of Ukraine for a time around the same time all this bribery/influence peddling was alleged to have occurred. So, what exactly was there for the Bidens to gain? You could say it was $10M ($5M/ea.), but does it make sense that they'd take such a risk and not get paid directly as opposed to having all that money spread out over multiple bank accounts over a long period of time?

Back to my question: What exactly did Zlochevsky get out of the deal that helped him?

His money was eventually released by Britain and his exile was lifted (as I understand events), but none of that happened until around the year 2018 - 2 years after VP Biden tossed his weight around in Ukraine). So, why would either side - Zlochevsky or Hunter/Joe take such a gamble?

Again..............Irrelevant to Hunter being their inside man with a direct pipeline to Joe.

 

[Paradoxical]

Why doesn’t Sex Abuse Ignorer Gym subpoena Hunter and ask him since you seem to be extremely concerned about a private citizen.

When will Sex Abuse Ignorer Gym subpoena Bob the plumber? Rumor has it Bob has 2 LLCs and just installed a new pool.

I understand it is in the works.

If that happens, I would love it televised to see how many times he takes the fifth.

 

[Paradoxical]

See, that would be something called 'evidence'. You may have heard of it (it's used in law courts to determine one's innocence or guilt). In the meantime by all means keep throwing out baseless and evidence-free accusations and assumptions, and we'll continue to laugh at how dumb they are.

You mean you WOULD accept a picture of Biden ion the shower with his teen daughter, then? That's encouraging. But, would her diary do?

 

[Paradoxical]

No one 'needs' 23 guitars either. But I have 23 guitars. Jay Leno doesn't 'need' 180 cars and 160 motorbikes either, but he has them. Nobody 'needs' $2.5 billion dollars, which Trump claims he's worth. Learn the difference between 'want' and 'need', and you might be getting somewhere. Your point again?

Hunter and Joe are a mafia crime syndicate is my point.

 

[Nwolfe35]

I understand it is in the works.

If that happens, I would love it televised to see how many times he takes the fifth.

Yep, it's "in the works"

Just like the testimony of the whistleblowers, the testimony of Devin Archer (which blew up in their faces in the closed door testimony), the release of the bank records, the testimony from Zlochevsky....

All of this stuff has been "in the works" for months...and yet here we are, still waiting.

 

[Paradoxical]

Do you have any evidence for us to connect the dots with where the Biden's are concerned? I'll gladly play if you have; but you don't have anything except partisan bias, assumption and 'but everyone knows', just like your pal @Paradoxical

NOTHING to see here folks. Run along now. Joe Biden was paid because Burisma likes him. Where is your evidence it was protection money. Run along now.

 

[Paradoxical]

Come now, Paradoxical. Surely, you can do better than be dismissive.

In every criminal act there is a transaction of some sort. Your side claims the Biden's got paid millions to either: a) use VP Biden's political influence with his son as an accomplice, thus, changing U.S./Ukraine foreign policy. However, you've never stated exactly what the foreign policy was or how exactly it was changed; or, b) to protect Zlochevsky/Burisma, but from what? That hasn't been detailed either.

You keep saying these things are irrelevant to why Hunter Biden was hired. Seems to me if Hunter was to play a role in his father changing U.S. foreign policy and get paid in exchange for having done so, knowing what was changed and how such benefited Zlochevsky, Burisma and/or Ukraine would be very relevant. Wouldn't you agree?

But let's say it was protection Zlochevsky/Burisma wanted/needed. How exactly is such protection applied to either Zlochevsky or Burisma? Was security measures increased for Zlochevsky? Clearly not since his assets were seized and he was exiled for a time. Was Burisma in an danger of going under? Possibly, if their oil contracts aren't approved. But how do the Biden's fit into this since they have no power to approve those contracts?

Foreign policy is not made by a criminal VP using his son.

 

[j brown's body]

It will never matter. They ignore the facts which have been spoon fed to them over and over and they refuse to do any independent facts based research. The information is all out there in many, many forms including State Department testimony , the press releases about the purpose of the Biden visit, readouts of calls with Ukraine officials during the Obama years and so much more. However, their preference is to be told by RW media and politicians slivers of things woven into imagined nefarious acts. It's way easier to accept what you are told than it is to do the leg work of getting to the facts.......easier and CT's are way more fun than the boring truth. How often do we see RW media pundits quoted here without any real value added by the poster ? It is a sign of intellectual laziness.

The right-wing power structure are expert at setting off their marks.

 

[Paradoxical]

Another stupid retort.

Trump owns multiple properties in several states across the country - NY, NJ and FL to name just three. Have you ever heard of Trump steaks? Trump airline? Trump wine? Trump NFTs? Truth Social?

Trump has (or had) 4 residents at one point: Trump Tower*, Mar-a-Lago, Betminster and the Trump DC Hotel*. Why doesn't Trump receive the same criticism for owning multiple properties. Furthermore, no one questions where Don Jr, Eric, or Tiffany lives or how their rents are paid. Do any of them really have a job?

Oh, and have you ever heard of a "Trump Mark"? If not, you should look that up. Somewhere among the Google, you'll find a list of every "business" Trump started or bears his name (at least up until around 2015).

You weren't here. What are Hunters 21 businesses?

 

[j brown's body]

I understand it is in the works.

If that happens, I would love it televised to see how many times he takes the fifth.

Why haven't the Republicans put this prosecutor under oath? He's been around for years.

 

[VySky]

Corrupt fired guy complaining on Fox that he was fired for political reasons. News at 10.

Corrupt guy fires (had fired) so called corrupt guy.

All in the Family

 

[Paradoxical]

Trump did collude with Russians. Taht is very well documented. Trump is still financially dependent on them.

Biden executed the official foreign policy of the United States.

HOW did Trump collude with Russia?


Oh, wait, I saw an interview with my new favorite guy Vivek and Vivek at Bill Maher's home. Bill was obviously drunk and that's OK. He thought the same thing and Vivek said "What?" and Billy Boy said "Trump asked Russia to find the missing emails. You never heard him say that?" I was incredulous that grown adults see that comment as serious and even if it was, collusion with Russia. How in the hell could Russia do that? It seems the left doesn't understand sarcasm. "Find Hillary's missing emails" is so obviously satire and sarcasm a third-grader would see it.

 

[CaughtInThe]

this is gonna be another one of those Paradoxical threads where he doesn't know when to stop isn't it.

supported by, of course, the cult and "libertarians".

 

[NatMorton]

This is why Biden should have gone no where near that case. Anyone with even a basic understanding of conflict of interest policy knows that, while in a position of authority, you don’t go near a matter where there is a financial interest of a family member involved. And in this case we are talking about the prosecution of a man whose company was paying Hunter Biden millions of dollars to lobby.

That this was so obvious a conflict of interest, and that VP Biden didn’t recuse himself, only makes the matter look more suspicious.