Talk about arrogance.
You claimed in that thread, that I had no idea what little poor Americans were going through with their illegals and how dare I point out that the right wing of American politics was leading the charge that clearly was targeting the Latino community and promoting xenophobic behaviour... and you were wrong as I pointed out. I choose to leave the thread because you brought nothing new to the debate, as you just repeated the same old tired xenophobic talking points that right wing groups have been promoting.
Just because the illegals that come to Europe are not Mexican, does not mean we,don't know what Americans are going through, since we have been going through the same thing for decades! Here. The only difference is we have an ocean for the most part to keep out the illegals.. not that its stopping them.
Also the same crap the right is spewing in the US, has been spewed by the right in Europe for decades. Your lot are advocating a wall between Mexico and the US.. guess what.. so have the right in Europe been doing since the early 1980s... ever heard of Fortress Europe? They also opposed the free movement of people, because of the illegal issue, new eastern members because of the illegal issue and so on. So dont come here and claim that we outside the US dont know what the US is going through.. typical American arrogance thinking that only poor little you are "hurting" over issues that effect large parts of the western world. When you see dead bodies wash up on the beach because some African or Middle Eastern people have tried to fit 200 people in a boat for 50, just to reach the shores of Europe and died trying.. so yes we know how it is, and we know the consequences, despite your denial that we do not. But its off topic, and I apologize to the rest and the mods.. back to topic.
That you with your usual right wing tactics tried to derail the subject with personal attacks against me for calling your "bluff" cant be my problem. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.
And you have done it again in this thread. You attack me, because you cant defend your hero McCain, so you have to attack the messenger, and you are using the fact that I am not an American against me.. rather pathetic attempt at that.
Just because I am not American, does not mean that the American election does not effect me. In fact it could probably effect me more than you, as US policy has a huge effect on just about everything that happens around the world, and the world has to react to the stupidity of whoever gets elected to the White House. Believe it or not, American Presidents and politicians have a very big disproportional power in the world, a power that reaches far over the borders of the US.
So when McCain gets backing from radical Christians and lets them dictate policy, then it effects me also. Radical Christians in Europe, especially evangelicals, have been given new life thanks to US evangelicals. The US lack of control with its far right elements have meant tons of US dollars have been funnelled into far right neo nazi groups in Europe from the US. Lack of US policy towards the IRA, helped fund the IRA for decades, and had a large impact on the Northern Ireland conflict. US policy in the middle east, has provided many more refugees that want to come to Europe. The tanking US economy has had impact on our economies.
So dont tell me that US politics and presidential elections are none of my business. They are everyones business as long as the US has such power world wide.
As for this POW that will not vote for McCain. He brings up many very relevant issues that are not being touched in the debates and by the media and they are issues that are highly relevant for being president.. far more relevant than being a military man or a POW.
Can McCain live long enough to see out his first term?
Does McCain have mental issues from his imprisonment?
Is McCain a hothead and has that any bearing on how effectively he can run the country?
Does his health have any bearing on how effectively he can be?
Dont deny that these issues are not relevant when we are talking about a man of McCains age. He might be a freaking hero, but that does not make him more qualified than anyone else to lead a nation... in fact it could make him less qualified if the ordeal has left lasting issues on his health and mental state. But noo that is taboo to talk about, because McCain is a POW, military man and a hero.. pathetic!
