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Former Keystone Pipeline worker says US energy crisis is result of Biden's policies: 'We tried to warn you'

Yep, love the sarcasm and sense of humor which apparently you don't have. As for being a Trumplican it really is stunning how rhetoric and personality drive your decision making process whereas as a very successful business person for 35 years in the private sector I always found polices more effective to base decisions on and have always been proactive rather than reactive in that decision making process. I voted for Trump policies not personality, you voted on personality and ignored the policies

I voted for the 2% inflation rate under Trump, the almost 7 million NEW jobs created, the strong consumer spending due to the tax cuts which boosted state and local revenue because that is how states get their revenue mostly from sales and property taxes. I voted for the strong economic results pre pandemic that generated relatively low gasoline prices not the feel good rhetoric and entitlement mentality promoted by the left
Trump has the worst economic record of any modern president. He had NEGATIVE job growth. His tax cut cost the US $2T to date. Gas prices were low because OPEC flooded the market with oil to hamper US domestic production.
 
Irrelevant based upon what, this thread is about the Keystone pipeline and my post references the difference between tanker costs and timing vs the pipeline and which one benefits the American people as if you care
Irrelevant in that your response had nothing to do with my post about the impact on global prices from the additional contributions from the Keystone XL pipeline. Your response had nothing to do with what I said. It would have made sense to have not quoted me and just made that point as a standalone item; quoting me means you're responding to what I wrote and the assumption is your response would be related to what I wrote.
 
Irrelevant in that your response had nothing to do with my post about the impact on global prices from the additional contributions from the Keystone XL pipeline. Your response had nothing to do with what I said. It would have made sense to have not quoted me and just made that point as a standalone item; quoting me means you're responding to what I wrote and the assumption is your response would be related to what I wrote.
It has everything to do with being proactive instead of being reactive. doubt seriously that any radical leftists pro green energy proponent understands that. There is no question that Biden and the radical left is waging war on fossil fuel totally ignoring that there are consequences and costs associated with that conversion. That plus the reality that the median income in this country is approximately 32,000 per year and an electric car costs upwards of 50,000. Rich liberal elites and big city dwellers who don't one a car seem to be the biggest proponents of moving off fossil fuel. That is what is called liberal compassion.
 
Trump has the worst economic record of any modern president. He had NEGATIVE job growth. His tax cut cost the US $2T to date. Gas prices were low because OPEC flooded the market with oil to hamper US domestic production.
BUT BUT BUT Con, thinks he was the greatest President EVER.
Doesn't matter if he ran the debt up in 4 four years almost as much as Obama did in 8 years.
Trump 6.7 Trillion in 4 years
Obama 8.6 Trillion in 8 years
Trump was only 1,9 Trillion short of meeting or beating Obama and that was in 4 years just think what he could have done if he was re-elected
and like you said he lost jobs
took us to become a net exporter of Petroleum products then we lost that under him too
Good luck talking to him
Have a nice day
 
In California you pay extra for reformulated gasoline along with high state and local taxes. Your gov't is the problem not the oil companies or the pipeline
Why has the price increased in California then recently.
They have had reformulated gas for some time before now.
And the gas they are using today was refined from oil drilled well before
the ukraine war..and well before the us stopped russian imports if oil.

So please explain the price hike
 
You really don't understand the private sector and that oil companies have to pay to get the product out of the ground, refined and to the public. They drill and that costs money, they pay federal, state and local taxes which cost money, they refine the product and that costs money, they create and/or buy the additives and that costs money, they pay for the transportation and that costs money. What does the gov't pay for?

Supply isn't determined by the oil companies, the wells and exploration determines that. Profit margin on a gallon of gasoline is between 7-11 cents, what is the government's profit margin on that gasoline?

Getting rather tired of young uneducated, intellectually challenged, anti private sector individuals who live off the public dole complaining about the private sector and so poorly education on civics, economics, labor information. What a waste of time
I own property that has oil and gas leases on it.
They have not been pumping gas and pil out of wells that literally could pump at the flick of a switch.
But the oil company that owns the lease is not pumping.
Please explain how the oil companies are not in control of supply.
 
It's all Trump's fault, especially his soft flabbyassedness on Russia. :p
What are the consequences of implementing a Green Energy Program? Regressive thinking? ROFLMAO, no realistic thinking. Amazing how you really don't give a damn the damage this conversion is going to create nor do you understand that much of the electric crisis in TX last year was due to windmills freezing
Wrong. And since you like bbc.com:

 
Why has the price increased in California then recently.
They have had reformulated gas for some time before now.
And the gas they are using today was refined from oil drilled well before
the ukraine war..and well before the us stopped russian imports if oil.

So please explain the price hike
They have always had high prices due to high taxes and California Reformulated Gasoline due to their OWN EPA regulations. Most stations in California are independently run thus can set their own prices. You tell me why the price of gasoline is higher today than it was during the Trump term? The reality is Biden's war on fossil fuel is getting a lot of attention at the pumps
 
I own property that has oil and gas leases on it.
They have not been pumping gas and pil out of wells that literally could pump at the flick of a switch.
But the oil company that owns the lease is not pumping.
Please explain how the oil companies are not in control of supply.
And what oil company would that be? You think the oil companies make any money if they don't sell their product? The conspiracy theory continues as you continue to show that you aren't even close to being a conservative.

Oh by the way, good successful private businesses anticipate unlike others who react. Successful private businesses are going to make policies based upon their projections of the future and Biden's war on fossil fuel is going to play a role. No single oil company controls the market in this country so the war against major oil is just typical liberal rans and lies
 
I own property that has oil and gas leases on it.
They have not been pumping gas and pil out of wells that literally could pump at the flick of a switch.
But the oil company that owns the lease is not pumping.
Please explain how the oil companies are not in control of supply.
Liberal gov't's normal operating procedure. You going to tell me that California needs 67 cents per gallon to handle the highway roads and infrastructure?


  • California has the highest motor fuel taxes in the country – 67 cents a gallon, says the Tax Foundation, using American Petroleum Institute data. Second highest are in Illinois, 60 cents a gallon. The national median is about 30 cents a gallon.
 
Why has the price increased in California then recently.
They have had reformulated gas for some time before now.
And the gas they are using today was refined from oil drilled well before
the ukraine war..and well before the us stopped russian imports if oil.

So please explain the price hike
Oh by the way the state tax on gasoline is only one tax on gasoline, here is an approximate 18 cents per gallon Federal Tax which funds FEDERAL HIGHWAYS and INFRASTRUCTURE

 
If @Conservative isn't the least respected person on this site, they are by far the worst debator / communicator. Within these last two pages (today), he has plagiarized a rando facebook rant, repeated the same tired mantra every time they hit reply, has double-responded to the same post, and has deflected / moved the goalpost in every single response he's produced today. The site should filter for excessive senility or trolling because the trash they continue to post cannot in any way lead to civil discussion.
 
Or simply don't feed him. He craves the attention which I, for one, choose not to satisfy.
 
It has everything to do with being proactive instead of being reactive. doubt seriously that any radical leftists pro green energy proponent understands that.
Except nothing I was talking about had anything to do with proactive versus reactive, but since we're on the topic, the only person who doesn't seem to understand this is you. Energy companies have been investing in green energy because they understand the shift and are being proactive so they are active competitors. The other option would be complacency and reliance on their current product which would lead to a reactionary strategy down the line; that would be the worst scenario to be in because it is a game of catch up. I'm not sure how this escapes you considering your claim of experience in this sector.

There is no question that Biden and the radical left is waging war on fossil fuel totally ignoring that there are consequences and costs associated with that conversion.
"Waging war" is quite hyperbolic and inaccurate. What the administration is doing is enacting policies to reduce the carbon footprint of vehicles by improving MPG efficiency and investing in the infrastructure that will make electric cars more viable. The way you're framing this paints the picture of country where nothing advances because of the "consequences and costs" which fosters a lack of innovation. The question is how those consequences and costs are managed. I suppose one could have argued against the car in the horse and buggy days by saying that the cost of making roads drivable for cars was going to cost money.


That plus the reality that the median income in this country is approximately 32,000 per year and an electric car costs upwards of 50,000. Rich liberal elites and big city dwellers who don't one a car seem to be the biggest proponents of moving off fossil fuel. That is what is called liberal compassion.
Like any new technology, the price point is always high in the early days, but then drops as demand drives production and availability. Thus far the market has been cornered by Tesla, and the early days featured very expensive cars because the market was quite small. The investment in charging stations and the production increase by US and foreign auto makers will be part of what drives the costs down. Of course technology will continue to change and improve, and hopefully we'll get to a point where electric cars have the range gasoline powered ones do.

Your comment about who is making strides in green energy is off the mark as well:

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I'm not sure how many rich liberal elites are driving the transitions in Kansas, South Dakota and Iowa.
 
Links to the Pulitzer winning lies or what the NYTimes has suppressed?
Links to what you wrote:

"Biden sat on his hands as VP as Putin took Crimea. The "big guy" accepted a cut of 3.5 million from Elena Baturina and money from Burisma. He green lighted Nords Stream 2 after it had been haulted by bipartisan sanctions. Put in sitting back and watching as our disastrous exit from Afghanistan and the disaster in the making with Iran"
 
Or simply don't feed him. He craves the attention which I, for one, choose not to satisfy.
And you choose to be a typical Canadian ignoring liberal policies that cause all the problems by destroying incentive and then placing blame. like most Canadians you still cannot explain why you support Biden when only 38% do on the economy today?
 
You realize of course, that most people don't own gas guzzlers simply for the amount of gas they guzzle, right?
Of course not. It's a mixed bag between those who own vehicles with low MPG that are used for work, and those which are personal choices. Those who choose cars with low MPG for non utilitarian reasons are making a conscious decision that aren't work related.
 
WTF would a pipe fitter know about anything?:unsure:
 
Because China will still have its oil after we burn up all of ours in the name of “independence”.
We have more oil than God in the United States
A bit racist, don't you think? Why would you write something like this? I guess it's who you are.
I'm sure the Asians the world over are offended is this NWO easily offended snowflake world.
 
Except nothing I was talking about had anything to do with proactive versus reactive, but since we're on the topic, the only person who doesn't seem to understand this is you. Energy companies have been investing in green energy because they understand the shift and are being proactive so they are active competitors. The other option would be complacency and reliance on their current product which would lead to a reactionary strategy down the line; that would be the worst scenario to be in because it is a game of catch up. I'm not sure how this escapes you considering your claim of experience in this sector.


"Waging war" is quite hyperbolic and inaccurate. What the administration is doing is enacting policies to reduce the carbon footprint of vehicles by improving MPG efficiency and investing in the infrastructure that will make electric cars more viable. The way you're framing this paints the picture of country where nothing advances because of the "consequences and costs" which fosters a lack of innovation. The question is how those consequences and costs are managed. I suppose one could have argued against the car in the horse and buggy days by saying that the cost of making roads drivable for cars was going to cost money.



Like any new technology, the price point is always high in the early days, but then drops as demand drives production and availability. Thus far the market has been cornered by Tesla, and the early days featured very expensive cars because the market was quite small. The investment in charging stations and the production increase by US and foreign auto makers will be part of what drives the costs down. Of course technology will continue to change and improve, and hopefully we'll get to a point where electric cars have the range gasoline powered ones do.

Your comment about who is making strides in green energy is off the mark as well:

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I'm not sure how many rich liberal elites are driving the transitions in Kansas, South Dakota and Iowa.
Off the mark? Can you even read the charts you posted? what state leads the nation in wind power? you ever going to tell us what consequences there are for Green energy and why you support that for autos when the costs is more than most Americans can ever pay and the upkeep and maintenance is unknown? Seems people like you are out of touch with reality buying rhetoric but never offering a valid reason for your support
 
Yes as usual you ignore the bigger picture, since the windmills froze and were PART of the Problem what would the problem be if the state totally relied on wind power? You already posted that the windmills were one of the problems but since they still constitute a small part of the total you ignore the reality of what would have happened if they were a larger part of the grid. Very poor business managers or private sector leaders don't understand that reality
There are many kinds of alternative energy and I'm guessing that windmills are one of the solutions but not THE solution. Is there a way to winterize windmills too? I don't know but that's not the point. You're against ANY form of alternative energy which is just beyond, beyond. I thought you have kids and grandkids? Don't you want them living in a world that has less pollution and more clean energy? They will all be driving in EVs in the next 20 years and if you're still alive you might be too as the cost of the cars come down. How can you ignore that Ford, GM et al are converting almost all of their future cars to electricity and the EVs will become the common car? Regressive, I know.
 
WTF would a pipe fitter know about anything?:unsure:
Far more than the left-wing posters here.

But, hey! it's all good. Kamala said high gas prices are the price to pay for "Democracy"

That is their new buzzword for 2022...."Democracy" It's another word they won't define, as you folks would never define what you meant by masks "work" So, I guess war now between Russian and Ukraine because of Biden's weakness and us now paying $6.00 a gallon for gas is the NWO "Democracy" because Biden shut down a pipeline and made it far more costly to drill in the United States for it, and "Democracy is going green because the Dems want everyone in electric cars so they can tax people per mile for Buttigiegs "infrastructure when they have no more tax money from the sale of gas at the pump. If that happens, $7.00 a gallon will seem like the good ole days.

November can't come fast enough because no matter what Biden does now, gas will still be raping the hard-working Americans because it is already happening that businesses are raising prices because of high gas costs. I need some delivery of sand and rocks and the company said the costs have increased because of Biden's gas increase, which Psaki is making sure to call Putin's gas increase because that is what their poll said would take the onus off Biden. Funny thing is when you shut down pipelines and the oil companies say it is not cost-effective to drill here anymore, the cost of oil goes up. This was BEFORE Biden's created war. Go figure, eh.

Democracy will put America under.
 
There are many kinds of alternative energy and I'm guessing that windmills are one of the solutions but not THE solution. Is there a way to winterize windmills too? I don't know but that's not the point. You're against ANY form of alternative energy which is just beyond, beyond. I thought you have kids and grandkids? Don't you want them living in a world that has less pollution and more clean energy? They will all be driving in EVs in the next 20 years and if you're still alive you might be too as the cost of the cars come down. How can you ignore that Ford, GM et al are converting almost all of their future cars to electricity and the EVs will become the common car? Regressive, I know.
You really have a passion for this issue and the question is why? I do have kids and grandkids but don't buy the liberal scare tactics about how global warming is destroying the earth. You always buy the liberal message but ignore the liberal results, why is that? There are never any consequences with liberalism, is there?
 
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