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Former Clinton email tech aide won’t testify

Oh yeah...then post a link to one.

Get off your lazy azz and do your own fishing....... I have had plenty of battles on here with GOP'ers.

2nd amendment, Bush, Trump, etc. etc.

It might surprise you that I even defended Obama with a few posts.

Get busy................Miss deflection.
 
Get off your lazy azz and do your own fishing....... I have had plenty of battles on here with GOP'ers.

2nd amendment, Bush, Trump, etc. etc.

It might surprise you that I even defended Obama with a few posts.

Get busy................Miss deflection.

You made the claim...you back it up.
 
It's not a secret that Pagliano was hired by Clinton to set up and maintain her server. His involvement was spelled out in the FBI report. Congress isn't going to find out anymore than what the FBI found so it's all just an exercise in futility for the sake of a political agenda to keep this email nonsense alive until the election.

So if he talked to the FBI, why not talk to congress? Hillary committed no prosecutorial offense, so why should this guy have something to fear at this point?
 
Then both you and he are cowards. If he knows of wrongdoing and by his silence he protects that wrongdoing, then he is a coward. Courage is standing up to those who abuse power.

Which is exactly what he is doing by pleading the 5th.. The House has already admitted to their abuse.
“This stunning concession from Rep. McCarthy reveals the truth that Republicans never dared admit in public: the core Republican goal in establishing the Benghazi Committee was always to damage Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and never to conduct an even-handed search for the facts. It is shameful that Republicans have used this tragedy and the deaths of our fellow Americans for political gain. Republicans have blatantly abused their authority in Congress by spending more than $4.5 million in taxpayer funds to pay for a political campaign against Hillary Clinton.”
Top Republican admits Benghazi Committee is all about attacking Hillary Clinton
 
So if he talked to the FBI, why not talk to congress? Hillary committed no prosecutorial offense, so why should this guy have something to fear at this point?
Why wouldn't he, or anyone for that matter, have something to fear from a politically motivated congress determined to criminalize their political opponents even if it means abusing their own power to do it?
 
Why wouldn't he, or anyone for that matter, have something to fear from a politically motivated congress determined to criminalize their political opponents even if it means abusing their own power to do it?

If that were true, everyone would take the 5th. If there is no crime, he has nothing to fear.
 
Screw you...................you made the claim first without thinking about it.

You prove where I have not had arguments with GOP'ers on here.

I'm not your panty boy/girl.

Face it,....the only reason you can't find one single post of you criticizing the GOP is because there isn't one......not one.
 
It's not a secret that Pagliano was hired by Clinton to set up and maintain her server. His involvement was spelled out in the FBI report. Congress isn't going to find out anymore than what the FBI found so it's all just an exercise in futility for the sake of a political agenda to keep this email nonsense alive until the election.

^ This.

It's about dragging out the witch hunting circus.
 
If that were true, everyone would take the 5th. If there is no crime, he has nothing to fear.

There are only three Oversight Committee chairman in modern history of congress that abused their power of subpoena. The first was Rep. Joe McCarthy...the second was Rep. Dan Burton ....and the third is Rep. Jason Chaffetz. So it is not true that everyone would take the fifth....but is true they take the fifth against a politically motivated hack posing as an oversight chairman abusing his authority.
 
Congress isn't interested in justice...they're only interested in bringing Clinton's ratings down and abusing their power to do it.

Nevermind that she and her staff broke the law?
 
Nevermind that she and her staff broke the law?

Breaking the law requires intent. But hey, nevermind that the FBI found no intent to break the law.
 
Breaking the law requires intent. But hey, nevermind that the FBI found no intent to break the law.

Break doesn't require intent...lol. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
 
To give the illusion that Hillary did nothing wrong.
The congressional farce was designed to give the illusion that Hillary did something wrong.
 
That's pretty simple, alright. :roll:

Andy McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor, has been writing about this subject for months, and I've read all his articles. They are detailed and logical, which no doubt makes them hard for collectivists to understand. He makes arguments, supported by facts, that the Obama Justice Dept. fixed this whole thing, and I am persuaded by those arguments. Obama is a low damned liar; so is his Attorney General; and so is Mrs. Clinton. Mr. Comey is a great disappointment--if he had had the character I thought he had, he would have resigned and made clear to the whole country why he was resigning. No truly honorable person would have any hand in this slimy fix.
 
Break doesn't require intent...lol. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

According to the FBI and the DoJ...it does. Ignorance of Mens Rea is no excuse.
 
According to the FBI and the DoJ...it does. Ignorance of Mens Rea is no excuse.

The FBI and DOJ must not have ever heard of negligent homicide. Are you saying they're really that stupid?

Shall I get into how I can get a citation forvdriving on a flat, even though i didn't intend to drive on a flat? Laws are for the little people, huh?
 
There are only three Oversight Committee chairman in modern history of congress that abused their power of subpoena. The first was Rep. Joe McCarthy...the second was Rep. Dan Burton ....and the third is Rep. Jason Chaffetz. So it is not true that everyone would take the fifth....but is true they take the fifth against a politically motivated hack posing as an oversight chairman abusing his authority.

Forgot Issa.

(he's been kinda quite lately after his meltdown, hasn't he?)
 
The FBI and DOJ must not have ever heard of negligent homicide. Are you saying they're really that stupid?

Shall I get into how I can get a citation forvdriving on a flat, even though i didn't intend to drive on a flat? Laws are for the little people, huh?

We know. You think you're smarter than career FBI agents --

I think the people who do this for a living - for over a hundred years, know what they are doing.

Comey: “[G]iven that assessment of the facts, my understanding of the law, my conclusion was and remains: No reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. No reasonable prosecutor would bring the second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence.”

Comey’s testimony:

JAMES COMEY: There are two things that matter in a criminal investigation of a subject: What did the person do and, when they did that thing, what were they thinking. When you look at the 100 years plus of the Justice Department's investigation and prosecution of the mishandling of classified information, those two questions are, obviously, present. What did the person do, did they mishandle classified information? And when they did it, did they know they were doing something that was unlawful? That has been the characteristic of every charged criminal case involving the mishandling of classified information.


I'm happy to go through the cases in particular. In our system of law, there's a thing called mens rea. It's important to know what you did, but when you did it, this Latin phrase, mens rea, means what were you thinking? We don't want to put people in jail unless we prove that they knew they were doing something they shouldn't do. That is the characteristic of all the prosecutions involving mishandling of classified information.

There is a statute that was passed in 1917 that on its face makes it a crime, a felony for someone to engage in gross negligence. So that would appear to say, well, maybe in that circumstance you don't need to prove they knew they were doing something that was unlawful, maybe it's enough to prove that they were just really, really careless beyond a reasonable doubt. At the time Congress passed that statute in 1917, there was a lot of concern in the House and the Senate about whether that was going to violate the American tradition of requiring that before you're going to lock somebody up, you prove they knew they were doing something wrong. So there was a lot of concern about it. The statute was passed.

As best I can tell, the Department of Justice has used it once in the 99 years since, reflecting that same concern. I know from 30 years with the Department of Justice they have grave concerns about whether it's appropriate to prosecute somebody for gross negligence, which is why they have done it once that I know of in a case involving espionage. And so when I look the facts we gathered here, as I said, I see evidence of great carelessness, but I do not see evidence that is sufficient to establish that Secretary Clinton or those with whom she was corresponding both talked about classified information on email and knew when they did it they were doing something that was against the law. So given that assessment of the facts, my understanding of the law, my conclusion was and remains:

No reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. No reasonable prosecutor would bring the second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence. And so I know that's been a source of some confusion for folks. That's just the way it is. I know the Department of Justice, I know no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. I know a lot of my former friends are out there saying where they would. I wonder where they were the last 40 years, because I'd like to see the cases they brought on gross negligence. Nobody would, nobody did. So my judgment was the appropriate resolution of this case was not with a criminal prosecution. As I said, folks can disagree about that, but I hope they know that view -- not just my view, but of my team -- was honestly held, fairly investigated and communicated with unusual transparency because we know folks care about it. [House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing]



I'm not about to play ring around the rosey for the 800th time with another conster wedded to the RW media drip he is fed, and play the "no intent" needed game.

There's a reason no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case, or has, for over a 100 years.
 
Face it,....the only reason you can't find one single post of you criticizing the GOP is because there isn't one......not one.

Again you make a accusation without proof.

Now it is in your court to prove it.

I know where they are and the subjects that i debated, and they have a footprint.

Here are a few clues....... Iraq War, Gun rights, Police brutality, and Bush. Even a airhead like yourself could manage a that search.
 
We know. You think you're smarter than career FBI agents --

I think the people who do this for a living - for over a hundred years, know what they are doing.

Comey: “[G]iven that assessment of the facts, my understanding of the law, my conclusion was and remains: No reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. No reasonable prosecutor would bring the second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence.”

Comey’s testimony:

JAMES COMEY: There are two things that matter in a criminal investigation of a subject: What did the person do and, when they did that thing, what were they thinking. When you look at the 100 years plus of the Justice Department's investigation and prosecution of the mishandling of classified information, those two questions are, obviously, present. What did the person do, did they mishandle classified information? And when they did it, did they know they were doing something that was unlawful? That has been the characteristic of every charged criminal case involving the mishandling of classified information.


I'm happy to go through the cases in particular. In our system of law, there's a thing called mens rea. It's important to know what you did, but when you did it, this Latin phrase, mens rea, means what were you thinking? We don't want to put people in jail unless we prove that they knew they were doing something they shouldn't do. That is the characteristic of all the prosecutions involving mishandling of classified information.

There is a statute that was passed in 1917 that on its face makes it a crime, a felony for someone to engage in gross negligence. So that would appear to say, well, maybe in that circumstance you don't need to prove they knew they were doing something that was unlawful, maybe it's enough to prove that they were just really, really careless beyond a reasonable doubt. At the time Congress passed that statute in 1917, there was a lot of concern in the House and the Senate about whether that was going to violate the American tradition of requiring that before you're going to lock somebody up, you prove they knew they were doing something wrong. So there was a lot of concern about it. The statute was passed.

As best I can tell, the Department of Justice has used it once in the 99 years since, reflecting that same concern. I know from 30 years with the Department of Justice they have grave concerns about whether it's appropriate to prosecute somebody for gross negligence, which is why they have done it once that I know of in a case involving espionage. And so when I look the facts we gathered here, as I said, I see evidence of great carelessness, but I do not see evidence that is sufficient to establish that Secretary Clinton or those with whom she was corresponding both talked about classified information on email and knew when they did it they were doing something that was against the law. So given that assessment of the facts, my understanding of the law, my conclusion was and remains:

No reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. No reasonable prosecutor would bring the second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence. And so I know that's been a source of some confusion for folks. That's just the way it is. I know the Department of Justice, I know no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. I know a lot of my former friends are out there saying where they would. I wonder where they were the last 40 years, because I'd like to see the cases they brought on gross negligence. Nobody would, nobody did. So my judgment was the appropriate resolution of this case was not with a criminal prosecution. As I said, folks can disagree about that, but I hope they know that view -- not just my view, but of my team -- was honestly held, fairly investigated and communicated with unusual transparency because we know folks care about it. [House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing]



I'm not about to play ring around the rosey for the 800th time with another conster wedded to the RW media drip he is fed, and play the "no intent" needed game.

There's a reason no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case, or has, for over a 100 years.

They aren't smart enough to tell a good lie. I wouldn't brag on them, if I were you.

You abd your buddies at the FBI don't realize David Patreaus was a civilian, when he got busted.
 
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