Foreign junkets on hold until politicians work out their differences

[marke]

Trump shut down Pelosi's planned all expense paid overseas junket to Brussels and Afghanistan due to the shutdown. The government shutdown just keeps on yielding cost saving results. These savings are not hurting America.

Junkets cost money. Big money. Taxpayer money. Politicians sometimes seem to not feel the pain taxpayers experience when forced to fork over that money. The Guardian ran an article on Obama's travel in 2011, entitled

Barack Obama's European baggage: the full kit and caboodle https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/23/barack-obamas-european-baggage-kit

Any foreign tour by a US president brings with it hundreds of people and tonnes of equipment. ...

Packing for a foreign trip is tricky enough at the best of times. So pity those planning Barack Obama's week-long European jaunt, a visit involving an entourage of anything up to 1,500 people and numerous tonnes of vehicles and equipment.

 

[party free]

Trump shut down Pelosi's planned all expense paid overseas junket to Brussels and Afghanistan due to the shutdown. The government shutdown just keeps on yielding cost saving results. These savings are not hurting America.

Junkets cost money. Big money. Taxpayer money. Politicians sometimes seem to not feel the pain taxpayers experience when forced to fork over that money. The Guardian ran an article on Obama's travel in 2011, entitled

Barack Obama's European baggage: the full kit and caboodle https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/23/barack-obamas-european-baggage-kit

Any foreign tour by a US president brings with it hundreds of people and tonnes of equipment. ...

Packing for a foreign trip is tricky enough at the best of times. So pity those planning Barack Obama's week-long European jaunt, a visit involving an entourage of anything up to 1,500 people and numerous tonnes of vehicles and equipment.

No biggie. Melania Antoinette still gets to take a fun romp to Mar a lago via presidential air taxi!

 

[CaughtInThe]

No biggie. Melania Antoinette still gets to take a fun romp to Mar a lago via presidential air taxi!

That's funny.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

And yet, melania went on vacation on government plane. But that's par for the course for republicans they think hypocrisy is a virtue

Who the F are some of you kidding, its about Trump being a petulant child and a ****ty politician and person in general.

 

[Airyaman]

I'm sure that is what Trump had in mind when he signed the letter he didn't bother to read.

 

[marke]

No biggie. Melania Antoinette still gets to take a fun romp to Mar a lago via presidential air taxi!

Yes, the secret service is still making it possible for Melania to live even though the government is experiencing a partial shutdown. At least Mar-a-Lago is closer than San Juan where the democrats and their security people were living it up on sunny beaches while Trump was stuck at the White House.

 

[dcsports]

No biggie. Melania Antoinette still gets to take a fun romp to Mar a lago via presidential air taxi!

And Queen of mean Pelosi can still use government transport when needed to fly to San Francisco. That's based on security concerns. Big difference between that and an overseas trip with a 'delegation'. Not to mention, Melania isn't holding up budget negotiations.

 

[party free]

And Queen of mean Pelosi can still use government transport when needed to fly to San Francisco. That's based on security concerns. Big difference between that and an overseas trip with a 'delegation'. Not to mention, Melania isn't holding up budget negotiations.

Neither is Pelosi. She and her House passed a budget. McConnell refuses to take it up. Can't blame her for that.

People making me defend Pelosi makes me feel icky. But she's working. Trump and McConnell are refusing to work.

 

[party free]

Yes, the secret service is still making it possible for Melania to live even though the government is experiencing a partial shutdown. At least Mar-a-Lago is closer than San Juan where the democrats and their security people were living it up on sunny beaches while Trump was stuck at the White House.

She's required to travel to mar a lago to live? Oh, please explain. Is she having major surgery there or something and must go?

 

[dcsports]

Neither is Pelosi. She and her House passed a budget. McConnell refuses to take it up. Can't blame her for that.

People making me defend Pelosi makes me feel icky. But she's working. Trump and McConnell are refusing to work.

She passed a budget that wasn't acceptable - and she knew it. Obviously, spending wasn't a concern for her - she increased that. She made no attempt to negotiate the central issue.

 

[dcsports]

She's required to travel to mar a lago to live? Oh, please explain. Is she having major surgery there or something and must go?

This is a red herring, and a clear indication that the left doesn't have a defense on this. Of course, the first Lady is entitled to transportation due to security concerns - as is Nancy Pelosi. Mar-a-lago is an established, known, and easily secured location. There's a difference between transporting a key individual within the US, and a full delegation of people overseas. Not to mention, Pelosi has some work to do.

 

[party free]

She passed a budget that wasn't acceptable - and she knew it. Obviously, spending wasn't a concern for her - she increased that. She made no attempt to negotiate the central issue.

The central issue is paying federal workers, including military members who are not being paid (coast guard).

Whether YOU find it unacceptable is irrelevant. The House has been working. The senate refuses to take up the bill.

Dems have offered compromise over the last year+, and Trump and McConnell snubbed their noses at it. And they continue to do so now. They refuse to even take up the house bill for a vote.

Only one side is refusing to work and participate in the process right now.

 

[party free]

This is a red herring, and a clear indication that the left doesn't have a defense on this. Of course, the first Lady is entitled to transportation due to security concerns - as is Nancy Pelosi. Mar-a-lago is an established, known, and easily secured location. There's a difference between transporting a key individual within the US, and a full delegation of people overseas. Not to mention, Pelosi has some work to do.

Not the point.

If Nancy can't take government aircraft on state business, it's hypocritical of Trump to send Melania Antoinette on vacation on government aircraft for funsies.

 

[Napoleon]

Not the point.

If Nancy can't take government aircraft on state business, it's hypocritical of Trump to send Melania Antoinette on vacation on government aircraft for funsies

The Speaker isn’t authorized to represent the United States in meetings with foreign officials so there was no official business. As for Melania, the Secret Service would never allow the first family to fly commercial.

 

[party free]

The Speaker isn’t authorized to represent the United States in meetings with foreign officials so there was no official business.

I suggest a little further reading on the trip she WAS going to take.

As for Melania, the Secret Service would never allow the first family to fly commercial.

Then perhaps the queen shouldn't be flying for funsies at all then. It makes a giant hypocrite of Trump to cancel Pelosi's trip, but let Melania head on down to the beach.

 

[Airyaman]

Seems one foreign junket went through, eh?

Trump Ally Lindsey Graham Shows Up In Turkey On Friday After Trump Cancels Nancy Pelosi Trip To Visit Troops

 

[Napoleon]

I suggest a little further reading on the trip she WAS going to take.

Again, she does not represent the United States abroad so she has no official business. If the millionairess from California wants to bounce around the world then she can do so on her own dime commercially.

 

[PeteEU]

Yes, the secret service is still making it possible for Melania to live even though the government is experiencing a partial shutdown. At least Mar-a-Lago is closer than San Juan where the democrats and their security people were living it up on sunny beaches while Trump was stuck at the White House.

The Dems spending in San Juan helps the local economy... Mrs Trumps trip only puts more money into Trumps pockets.

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[party free]

Again, she does not represent the United States abroad so she has no official business. If the millionairess from California wants to bounce around the world then she can do so on her own dime commercially.

Again, I suggest a little further reading on the trip she WAS going to take.

 

[Napoleon]

Again, I suggest a little further reading on the trip she WAS going to take.

No need. The Speaker isn’t authorized to represent the United States abroad so there is no official business.

 

[dcsports]

The central issue is paying federal workers, including military members who are not being paid (coast guard).

Whether YOU find it unacceptable is irrelevant. The House has been working. The senate refuses to take up the bill.

Dems have offered compromise over the last year+, and Trump and McConnell snubbed their noses at it. And they continue to do so now. They refuse to even take up the house bill for a vote.

Only one side is refusing to work and participate in the process right now.

The central issue is the shutdown. Pelosi has made no effort to negotiate this.

It's not me that finds the house bill unacceptable - it's Republicans and the President. It was a show bill -- she knew it was a non-starter. You are right though, only one side (Pelosi) is refusing to participate in the process.

 

[Grand Mal]

No need. The Speaker isn’t authorized to represent the United States abroad so there is no official business.

Are you saying that congresspeople don't go on official trips to other countries?
Pretty sure you're wrong. Pretty sure too that they don't need permission from the White House.

 

[party free]

No need. The Speaker isn’t authorized to represent the United States abroad so there is no official business.

Strike 2.

She wasn't joy riding for fun, say, to a personally owned resort.

She was working.

And we have others working right now, and their flights weren't canceled.

Use whatever words you want to, but the fact remains Trump made a big hypocrite out of himself on this one.

 

[dcsports]

Not the point.

If Nancy can't take government aircraft on state business, it's hypocritical of Trump to send Melania Antoinette on vacation on government aircraft for funsies.

She's not on state business. She actually can't represent the country unless the President authorizes her to do so. You could say 'government business', but even there, you get into the area of what's necessary.

Again, it's a red herring. No one said Pelosi couldn't use government aircraft for travel within the US, as she's entitled to by her position. (Technically, she could probably even take it outside the US at her discretion). That's different than taking a delegation overseas. Now, if Melania decides to fly to France with 40 of her closest friends for a vacation, you could rightly argue hypocrisy.

 

[Napoleon]

Are you saying that congresspeople don't go on official trips to other countries?
Pretty sure you're wrong. Pretty sure too that they don't need permission from the White House.

I’m pointing out the fact that Congresspeople do not conduct official business on behalf of the United States abroad. They are not authorized to negotiate on behalf of the United States, they are not authorized to make official commitments on behalf of the United States, and they are not authorized to serve in any delegation in that capacity unless authorized by the Executive. Besides, we have Ambassadors for that and Nancy isn’t one of them.