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For ALL the Trump haters: you have nothing to offer instead!

dandolo2k said:
Will. And have listened. Trump uses tariffs as a starting point for negotiations.
See my gun ? I can kill you. But lets rather negotiate...
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The problem is he's lobbing grenades into a room full of our allies too.

Using your analogy, countries aren't saying "wow, he's tough, he's going to shoot all of us and himself, we better bend to his will".

They are saying "this guy is a nutcase, let's find different new deals with each other so that we don't have a psycho holding us hostage".
 
dandolo2k said:
Why ? Because I don't think you assign this title "comrade" to every poster you communicate with. it's a certain privileged honor you resort for a certain people, isn't it ?
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We are all commies, right?
 
iliveonramen said:
The problem is he's lobbing grenades into a room full of our allies too.

Using your analogy, countries aren't saying "wow, he's tough, he's going to shoot all of us and himself, we better bend to his will".

They are saying "this guy is a nutcase, let's find different new deals with each other so that we don't have a psycho holding us hostage".
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Nope . THis is not universal reaction. Some do bend down.
 
What if...? said:
We are all commies, right?
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This is what I thought of . Stereotypes. Last instant sense of politeness forced you to replace "you" with "we".
Nope. I am not a "commie". I bet that you even don't know correct meaning of this term . BUt yet are ready to finger point : you are commie, and you are commie , and him , and them .
 
dandolo2k said:
Nope . THis is not universal reaction. Some do bend down.
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Not enough to make it a good thing for everybody but our billionaires. They get a more desperate workforce when we can no longer afford the lifestyle we worked hard to attain. They get more tax cuts they do not need.

It would likely be best if the whole ahithouse went up in flames.

Might come up with something better to do than play “who can be the richest most powerful person in the world”.
 
dandolo2k said:
This is what I thought of . Stereotypes. Last instant sense of politeness forced you to replace "you" with "we".
Nope. I am not a "commie". I bet that you even don't know correct meaning of this term . BUt yet are ready to finger point : you are commie, and you are commie , and him , and them .
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It’s a little more nuanced than that.
 
iliveonramen said:
Well, Trump is making that bet, hopefully he doesn't screw us over, and hopefully this disaster isn't for nothing.
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Panama have already given up their precious channel. Ukraine will deliver their metals on the silver plate.
Mexico will abide under Trumps immigration rules , will collaborate....
 
What if...? said:
Not enough to make it a good thing for everybody but our billionaires. They get a more desperate workforce when we can no longer afford the lifestyle we worked hard to attain. They get more tax cuts they do not need.

It would likely be best if the whole ahithouse went up in flames.

Might come up with something better to do than play “who can be the richest most powerful person in the world”.
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This is the main subject of the thread!
Something! Nobody knows how this "something" looks like. How it smells. Nobody even can come up with anything reasonable , except of "Lets continue to do like we did before".
 
dandolo2k said:
This is the main subject of the thread!
Something! Nobody knows how this "something" looks like. How it smells. Nobody even can come up with anything reasonable , except of "Lets continue to do like we did before".
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Yesterday?

Or the day before?

Maybe a week ago?

Or maybe what it will be tomorrow?

We have no idea.

That’s the problem with mercurial policy.
 
dandolo2k said:
What Yesterday ? I have lost the idea.... When the policy will bring fruits ? We don't know ... .We are not oracles
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It’s more about when the timer starts.

Flip Floppy the Orange changes his mind every day or two.

The economy HATES uncertainty. They need to order goods and materials to meet expected demand at current prices. When they have no idea what will happen tomorrow they retract, hunker down, go turtle.

Do you spend money you have when you may lose your job tomorrow or next week? Not if you have any sense. You hang onto what you have and hope it’s enough to weather the storm.

Businesses will do the same.
 
What if...? said:
It’s more about when the timer starts.

Flip Floppy the Orange changes his mind every day or two.

The economy HATES uncertainty. They need to order goods and materials to meet expected demand at current prices. When they have no idea what will happen tomorrow they retract, hunker down, go turtle.

Do you spend money you have when you may lose your job tomorrow or next week? Not if you have any sense. You hang onto what you have and hope it’s enough to weather the storm.

Businesses will do the same.
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Yep , businesses will take some damage. Nothing is possible without a fraction of sacrifice.
 
dandolo2k said:
Yep , businesses will take some damage. Nothing is possible without a fraction of sacrifice.
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And of course it’s always the working folks asked to sacrifice while the billionaire class lights another Cigar.
 
dandolo2k said:
Nope . THis is not universal reaction. Some do bend down.
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The orange moron claimed the tariffs were to bring manufacturing back which wont happen if he also uses them as a negotiating tactic
and what major trading partner bent the knee to traitor trump?
instead they started selling off bonds and forced im to cave. He caved they didn't

There is no plan only chaos
 
dandolo2k said:
Ok, Everything is bad blah, blah, blah. Markets are down, prices are up. State employees are losing their jobs.
But it's time to awaken to reality: US has a huge public debt, and trade disbalance.
What is the simplest solution ? To sell m ore, to buy less. It's so easy to understand. Hence . Trump's tariffs.
Recently I briefly discussed the "disaster" with a friend , and asked him: If Trump's policy is all wrong, what can you offer instead ?
He responded with: "I don't know. And nobody knows. "
So , what globalists fan boys can offer ? What ? Start another proxy war ? Spend another 200 billions on Ukraine?
May be start a global war ? Nuclear War ?
You have nothing to offer dear whineres. Just to whine and whimper. To whimper and whine.
And obstruct road traffic with pathetic paid demonstrations.
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Democrats had a goldilocks economy going but Trump wanted to go back to the Great depression instead. I admit the fashions were better in the '30s, but I still don't want to go back.
 
dandolo2k said:
Ok, Everything is bad blah, blah, blah. Markets are down, prices are up. State employees are losing their jobs.
But it's time to awaken to reality: US has a huge public debt, and trade disbalance.
What is the simplest solution ?
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The solution to the national debt is to reduce budget deficits, close up tax code loopholes for corporations, increase taxes on the mega wealthy, or some combination thereof to slow down the accumulation of debt a bit. That said, our current debt is still well within our ability to service.

Trade imbalances aren't an actual problem, and don't need to be fixed.

dandolo2k said:
To sell m ore, to buy less. It's so easy to understand.
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How on earth is buying less supposed to be good for the US economy?

dandolo2k said:
Hence . Trump's tariffs.
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Well, when everyone in the US is poorer, they won't be able to buy as much, so if that's your goal, I suppose impoverishing Americans is one way to go about it.


dandolo2k said:
Recently I briefly discussed the "disaster" with a friend , and asked him: If Trump's policy is all wrong, what can you offer instead ?
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Instead of imposing tariffs, don't. Instead of starting a trade war with Canada and Mexico when we are already in a trade war with China, just don't. Not doing that would be a much better policy.

We would all be better off if Trump would just stick to cheating at golf on the taxpayers dime instead of trying to do things. Doing absolutely nothing is literally a better policy than starting a trade war with our closest allies.
 
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