Florida OKs school materials aimed at making students conservatives

[mrjurrs]

I am not gay and I am not current on which states discriminate against members of the LGBTQ community.
I only know what I read.
So what is the LGBTQ community to ensure "the LGBTQ community is treated the same as the heterosexuals among us legally?" Do you know? Do you care?

About 20 states have anti-discrimination laws specifically protecting L.G.B.T.Q. people.​

The laws explicitly protect people from being refused services or otherwise discriminated against in public because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
By Ruth Graham

• June 30, 2023

Federal law protects Americans from being discriminated against in public places like retail stores on the basis of disability and “race, color, religion or national origin.”
Many states go further. Colorado is one of about 20 states, along with the District of Columbia, that have laws explicitly protecting people from being refused services or otherwise discriminated against in public because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. Additionally, several states interpret existing laws against sex discrimination to apply to bias relating to sexual orientation and gender identity, even though they do not have laws explicitly forbidding such discrimination.
In states that do not offer protections to gay and transgender people on those grounds, municipal laws cover many residents.

The Human Rights Campaign, an L.G.B.T.Q. advocacy organization, joined a friend-of-the-court brief arguing that an exemption in the case decided on Friday would undermine state and federal public-accommodation laws.

About 20 states have anti-discrimination laws specifically protecting L.G.B.T.Q. people. (Published 2023)

The laws explicitly protect people from being refused services or otherwise discriminated against in public because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

www.nytimes.com

Unclear on what your first question was asking.

20 states? Would heterosexuals be okay with having protection in 40% of the nation? I wouldn't.

 

[mrjurrs]

I worry about people lacking common sense who would paint an entire group as guilty of "grooming" = whatever that means.

The Catholic Church has as an organization has been proven to be active in protecting 'employees'. Individual Catholics are no more likely to be a pedophile than any other religious group.

 

[roguenuke]

I wrote: "That's like Jews in Nazi Germany knowing their lives were in danger and did not do enough to hide their Jewishness."

If your son in high school was threatened for his gayness the way Jews in Nazi Germany were threatened for their religion, your attitude toward being in a "better position to fight fascists and radical religious beliefs, standing up to fight back against those trying to oppress others" would be vastly different.
Kids in high school are not prone to killing gays or shipping them off to be exterminated.

What the hell? So because some oppression is not as bad as others, it should be ignored? This is not getting better. Accepting of small acts of oppression leads to acceptance of bigger acts.

 

[jaypatriot]

What the hell? So because some oppression is not as bad as others, it should be ignored? This is not getting better. Accepting of small acts of oppression leads to acceptance of bigger acts.

So you believe it's a good thing that so many gays are coming out of the closet and being harassed/bullied in high school?
It's all part of their protest movement to win acceptance in our society?
Kids in school will never change. Bullies and homophobes will always exist in our society.
You're doing the right thing to support your child.
Bigots, homophobes, and stupid/ignorant teens will always be there to taunt other kids for who they are.
That's the cross different kids will always have to bear.

 

[jaypatriot]

The Catholic Church has as an organization has been proven to be active in protecting 'employees'. Individual Catholics are no more likely to be a pedophile than any other religious group.

You're painting Catholics with a broad and ignorant brush.

 

[mrjurrs]

You're painting Catholics with a broad and ignorant brush.

Broad yes, ignorant? Have you been paying any attention to what is going on regarding Catholic Church pedophilia?

 

[jaypatriot]

Broad yes, ignorant? Have you been paying any attention to what is going on regarding Catholic Church pedophilia?

Yes, but I don't condemn an entire organization because of a few bad apples.
That would be like a Progressive condemning an entire political party because there are crappy politicians who need to be outd and ousted.
Or like a rabid Republican who really believes Joe Biden is as corrupt as his son, Hunter. Oh wait, that still might be true.

 

[mrjurrs]

Yes, but I don't condemn an entire organization because of a few bad apples.
That would be like a Progressive condemning an entire political party because there are crappy politicians who need to be outd and ousted.
Or like a rabid Republican who really believes Joe Biden is as corrupt as his son, Hunter. Oh wait, that still might be true.

When the rot has reached the very top of the organization, you condemn the organization no matter how many incidents have occurred.

Pope John Paul II 'aware of child abuse', Polish TV alleges

An investigation has accused the former head of the Catholic Church of trying to avoid the scandal by sending priests from one parish to another.

www.euronews.com

 

[jaypatriot]

When the rot has reached the very top of the organization, you condemn the organization no matter how many incidents have occurred.

Pope John Paul II 'aware of child abuse', Polish TV alleges

An investigation has accused the former head of the Catholic Church of trying to avoid the scandal by sending priests from one parish to another.

www.euronews.com

Too bad Biden and Pelosi don't share your view of the Catholic Church.
That's like Biden and Pelosi stating they are Catholic and then supporting whatever method of abortion in order to maintain political power.
But I was a great altar boy and very leery of a Hungarian priest who was a real SOB.
Sure glad I am no longer a devout Catholic.

 

[mrjurrs]

Too bad Biden and Pelosi don't share your view of the Catholic Church.
That's like Biden and Pelosi stating they are Catholic and then supporting whatever method of abortion in order to maintain political power.
But I was a great altar boy and very leery of a Hungarian priest who was a real SOB.
Sure glad I am no longer a devout Catholic.

Don't use politicians religion like it's important. They believe in their faith, they took an oath to the Constitution.

 

[AZRWinger]

Let's get back to the thread, how about? What has become abundantly clear is that Ron DeFascist prefers to stack everything against reality and see if any of it sticks. The problem is, he's just so obvious about it. He's trying to ride the right-wing CT train into the White House, emphasis on the white, by proposing every white nationalist fantasy as policy. Misogyny? Check. Anti-LGBT? Check. Racism? Check. Xenophobia? Check. He's a rodeo clown, complete with silly costumes.

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A state Governor shaking the hand of a local police officer. And, a decorated Navy veteran, reservist wearing a military style uniform. Shocking. Not.

Of the list of whining smears the "don't say gay" charge deserves special mention. The bill doesn't use the term gay.

 

[jaypatriot]

Let's get back to the thread, how about? What has become abundantly clear is that Ron DeFascist prefers to stack everything against reality and see if any of it sticks. The problem is, he's just so obvious about it. He's trying to ride the right-wing CT train into the White House, emphasis on the white, by proposing every white nationalist fantasy as policy. Misogyny? Check. Anti-LGBT? Check. Racism? Check. Xenophobia? Check. He's a rodeo clown, complete with silly costumes.

ratccon,
Your post reads like someone who is genuinely frightened by DeSantis' continued popularity with Conservatives and people sick of WOKE ideology permeating our schools, government, and private corporations. It smacks of fear of Biden not able to take on Trump next November 2024. If Trump disappears from the political scene then it's Biden versus DeSantis and that is what the vast majority of Democrats fear in 2024.

 

[eman623]

I’ve never heard of any left-wing partisan organizations hand-crafting public school curriculum, much less any that have openly admitted it is indoctrination.

The NEA is a left wing partisan organization.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Because teaching evolutionary biology and that you can't "pray away the gay" is not the same thing as teaching that cutting taxes to millionaires "lifts all boats" or saying slavery was a good thing because it taught the enslaved useful skills.

This is not a "both sides" issue. It's about education vs misinformation.

Misinformation? Like claiming that anyone wants to teach that "slavery was a good thing?"

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Florida OKs school materials aimed at making students conservatives

Gov. Ron DeSantis repeatedly says he opposes indoctrination in schools. Yet his administration in early July approved materials from a conservative group that says it’s all about indoctrination and…

www.orlandosentinel.com

Florida is moving to brainwash the youth, force feeding partisan political propaganda to children. It seems the CRT scare was more projection.

Anyone going to defend this?

Not acceptable.

It's time for the lawsuits to begin.

 

[jaypatriot]

Misinformation? Like claiming that anyone wants to teach that "slavery was a good thing?"

What idiot would actually say that?
Do you have an actual reference as to who could be so stupid?
Or is that just a pointed example of misinformation?

 

[Noodlegawd]

What idiot would actually say that?
Do you have an actual reference as to who could be so stupid?
Or is that just a pointed example of misinformation?

Try reading the thread.

 

[jaypatriot]

Try reading the thread.

You mean all eight pages to find out the idiot who said that?

 

[Noodlegawd]

You mean all eight pages to find out the idiot who said that?

Or, you know, you could read my comment, including the previous comment I quoted and was responding to.

 

[trouble13]

Everything is politically biased. It cannot be avoided. Some material or teacher may have a conservative or liberal bias and that's ok.

But not everything is factually correct.

US education is inherently biased towards making the US look good. Ok, whatever. Of course it is. But would you say the same thing if we introduced Russian propaganda to our schools to "show both sides"?

PragerU is openly and explicitly a propaganda machine.

Name a single left leaning org that is openly a political propaganda org that has their curriculum in schools. The left leaning equivalent of PragerU would be like allowing BLM or something to produce media and show it in schools.

The American federation of teachers is an openly progressive group that puts their curriculum in schools.

This is an issue that should be left to communities to set the standards for at the local level. Along with school choice so if you don't like your local communities standards you have the ability to transfer your child to a school where the standards are more suitable to the child's needs.

This should not be a partisan issue. Both sides should embrace choice.

 

[PoS]

Florida OKs school materials aimed at making students conservatives

Gov. Ron DeSantis repeatedly says he opposes indoctrination in schools. Yet his administration in early July approved materials from a conservative group that says it’s all about indoctrination and…

www.orlandosentinel.com

Florida is moving to brainwash the youth, force feeding partisan political propaganda to children. It seems the CRT scare was more projection.

Anyone going to defend this?

Well since you libs started the culture war by trying to force wokeness on the kids, this is a reaction to that, so if you want someone to blame, go look in a mirror.

 

[yankintx]

Why clutch your pearls when the pendulum swings in the other direction?

It seems to be the Right getting their panties in a bunch and book banning.

I noticed you didn't defend, does that mean you are against, or just here to make dumbass comments?