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I'm not saying it's a war on the poor. I'm saying that I don't believe this large scale information search and databasing is proper power of the government.
It's simple logic. You take the poorest group of people who at the same time are addicted to drugs and you take the money away that they have been using to support their habit. Do you think they are magically going to be cured of their drug habits? Do you think that they are just going to be able to up and quit? These are not people who can afford treatment. These are people who will likely steal, prostitute, gamble, or whatever it takes to get their fix. They are going to end up in prison where the tax payers will end up paying a lot more.
It would be better to offer substance abuse treatment...
Because it's government granted assistance. It's not a job you're doing. You're not applying for a position. I'd like to keep constant monitoring of the People by the government to the smallest value possible.
This is just further stigma against the poor. One day it's the rich's fault for ruining the economy, the next it's the poor's. Honestly, Walker did this to score political points. It's not really going to change the situation. People relying on this safety net are going to fall through now and become more prone to crime, even if they are addicts.
The war on drugs is the problem here. But I suppose Walker will get kick backs now from all the additional people being sent to prison. And the public pays on average $50-70k per year for each inmate. Yeah, this makes a lot of sense.
Make no mistake, slavery is alive and well in America today - it's called the prison system.
Hummmm, haven't you made the argument in the past that, if a charity is going to get federal money than they need to abide by federal law? How's this any different? You want state money, you abide by state rules.
They aren't already offered treatment?
Way to cheapen the true horror of slavery, genius. :roll:
CriticalThought said:Not until they are in prison.
I think the prison system can be considerably worse than slavery.
That's the only way an addict finds his way into treatment, is it?
This is just further stigma against the poor. One day it's the rich's fault for ruining the economy, the next it's the poor's. Honestly, Walker did this to score political points. It's not really going to change the situation. People relying on this safety net are going to fall through now and become more prone to crime, even if they are addicts.
The war on drugs is the problem here. But I suppose Walker will get kick backs now from all the additional people being sent to prison. And the public pays on average $50-70k per year for each inmate. Yeah, this makes a lot of sense.
Make no mistake, slavery is alive and well in America today - it's called the prison system.
Unless they have insurance or can get on disability.
I have no problem with them abiding to it. I simply disagree with the rule they have made. Without offering treatment, it is a terrible policy.
Is there just no room for personal responsibility at all in your thought process? Apparently, not only should drugs be legal, we should provide them for free. :roll:
I think the prison system can be considerably worse than slavery. If anything, it is an extension of slavery since such a disproportionate number of prisoners are black.
Seriously CT, I know how prone to hyperbole you are, but really, let's not degrade what slavery did and was by using stupid comparisons just to get a reaction now.
Actually if you go back and read in the thread I highlight my position very clearly. I do not believe that drugs should be legalized, I believe they should be decriminalized, and they should be regulated with taxes and fines which go to pay for treatment programs.
Actually if you go back and read in the thread I highlight my position very clearly. I do not believe that drugs should be legalized, I believe they should be decriminalized, and they should be regulated with taxes and fines which go to pay for treatment programs.
I think the prison system can be considerably worse than slavery. If anything, it is an extension of slavery since such a disproportionate number of prisoners are black.
Time for the Slobs sucking the Democrat provided Social Teet in Florida........
.......... to get a job......or start buying their own smack.......hopefully both.
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Drug Tests are !!!RACIST!!!......
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You said that twice and it still makes no sense. How are you going to fine someone for something that's been decriminalized? You can't be fined for not breaking a law.
If something's not illegal, it's legal.
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