Flesh Eaters?

[Just Me 2]

I was vegan for a few years, but despite soy and calcium supplements, I had a lot of bone density loss; as a woman of Northern European ancestry, I'm at high risk for osteoporosis.
I chose to go back to dairy, although not eggs. So I'm a lactovegetarian.
I'm not entirely comfortable with the cruelty involved in producing milk in this country; however, I am willing to live with that low-level guilt in order to avert or forestall a future as a toothless hunchback.

Decisions like this are the reason I don't feel it's my place to judge others.
I will- and have, and do- put my own best interests ahead of the interests of others, including animals. I'm no martyr.
But I don't feel it's in my best interests to eat meat.
It isn't good for you; it overtaxes your heart, your digestive system, your renal system. It wears you out.
And I don't really like meat, and never have (I've always been a picky eater).
And I love and respect animals, and it makes me sad to eat- or even see- the flesh of dead ones.

If these considerations don't apply to others, though, then i guess there's no reason for them not to eat meat.

Question do you not eat meat because you don't like the taste or because it is an animal? If it is the latter then I must ask. Do you wear leather? Or have you ever had or have a baseball or a baseball glove or a football or a soccer ball? All made from the flesh of animals. I respect you for not eating meat and for not judging those that do but do you follow that vision in every aspect of your life?

 

[Roberdorus]

"If God did not intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?" - John Cleese

 

[1069]

Do you wear leather? Or have you ever had or have a baseball or a baseball glove or a football or a soccer ball? All made from the flesh of animals.

No, I don't wear leather. I wear canvas Converse All-Stars, hemp sandals, faux leather dress-shoes, and I even have a pair of vegan combat boots (all canvas); and I do not and never have had any footballs, soccer balls, or baseball gloves.
My kids have leather boots and accessories, though, and have, in the past, owned sporting equipment.
If there was something leather that I wanted, I'd buy it.
There just never is.

 

[jamesrage]

I just want to see how widely spread their beliefs are. DP might not be the most representative sample though...

If you want to see the leftist nuts come out open a thread about transsexualism and gay marriage.

 

[desertfox]

Of course we do not need to consume animal flesh in order to live.
But in order to live healthy lives we do need to consume meat.
Just remember Japanese. 2000 years ago they ate meat and were higher than 200 year ago, when there was almost no meat in their diet. Soon they started to eat meat again and grew for about 6 inches taller.

Eat meat, be healthy.

i wouldnt agree with that its not that they didnt eat meat (a complete protein) its that they didnt eat the right combinations of incomplete proteins. Any good vegitarian nowadays know the combinations that must be eaten together to form a complete protein (rice and beans and such and such)

 

[Monkey Mind]

Any good vegitarian nowadays know the combinations that must be eaten together to form a complete protein (rice and beans and such and such)

That's sort of an urban myth. Combining proteins is good, but not absolutely necessary, at least not within the context of a single meal.

It was once thought that vegetarians needed to combine plant foods at each meal to ensure they consumed complete proteins. Recent research has found that this is not the case. Consuming various sources of amino acids throughout the day should provide the complete complement of protein.

Some good plant sources of protein include:

* Legumes, such as beans, peas and lentils
* Nuts
* Seeds
* Soy products, including tempeh and tofu
* Whole (cereal) grains.

Source: Vegetarian eating - Better Health Channel.

 

[1069]

i wouldnt agree with that its not that they didnt eat meat (a complete protein) its that they didnt eat the right combinations of incomplete proteins. Any good vegitarian nowadays know the combinations that must be eaten together to form a complete protein (rice and beans and such and such)

Yeah, they don't have to be eaten together (although many people find beans and rice tasty).
As long as you eat them both- individually is fine- at some point, and in the appropriate amounts.
It is crucial to get your essential amino acids, but it is not necessary that all of the amino acids be consumed at the same meal.
A lot of times, for instance, I'll have a peanut butter sandwich mid-morning, and then for dinner I'll have something like brown rice and broccoli or a baked potato and some kind of vegetable.
I'm not a big fan of beans, which is a problem, but I can sometimes stand to eat a can of frijoles or something. More often, I eat lentils or split peas (which I like). I've got a recipe for a vegan split pea and barley soup which is delicious; sometimes I cook up two batches, freeze one, and eat that for dinners for a week or more.
Or sometimes I make this big pot of lentils and brown rice which is not as good as the pea soup, but it's very filling and nutritious.
Luckily for me, I don't mind bland foods; in fact, I really can't stand anything strong-tasting.
So, anything starchy and carb-y is pretty much fine with me; taste isn't a big issue.
I'm healthy, and I have tons of energy; in fact, I've never had a serious illness. I feel way ahead of the game, for my age.

 

[Synch]

I belive in some sort of Utilitarianism for animals, which is why I usually eat organic meat from free range farms, I'm congenitally unhealthy thus I'm coerced to eat meat to maintain basic health, in addition I have a high metabolism, without meat I would have to eat an exorbitant amount of soy, which would not only taste bad and be extremely time consuming, but would load me with estrogen..

What prevents the cow from being extinct(or maintaining a near extinct population)? The fact that they are private property of those who could make some sort of profit out of it, without a meat industry many domesticated animals cannot be justly preserved without specifically being under the purview of some governmental organization, which I believe would be unjust.

 

[The Mark]

I belive in some sort of Utilitarianism for animals, which is why I usually eat organic meat from free range farms, I'm congenitally unhealthy thus I'm coerced to eat meat to maintain basic health, in addition I have a high metabolism, without meat I would have to eat an exorbitant amount of soy, which would not only taste bad and be extremely time consuming, but would load me with estrogen..

What prevents the cow from being extinct(or maintaining a near extinct population)? The fact that they are private property of those who could make some sort of profit out of it, without a meat industry many domesticated animals cannot be justly preserved without specifically being under the purview of some governmental organization, which I believe would be unjust.

Not to mention it might increase our taxes.

This is of course because over time we humans domesticated those animals specifically to make it easier to obtain meat and other products from them.

So, if we spent several thousand years un-domesticating animals in order to let them run wild again.......:rofl

 

[BubbaBob]

For 1069 and others like her...don't get all upset...this is a JOKE...

Vegetarian and vegan are old Indian...er, Native American...words. Vegetarian means "poor hunter" and vegan means "worse hunter".

BubbaBob

 

[Just Me 2]

No, I don't wear leather. I wear canvas Converse All-Stars, hemp sandals, faux leather dress-shoes, and I even have a pair of vegan combat boots (all canvas); and I do not and never have had any footballs, soccer balls, or baseball gloves.
My kids have leather boots and accessories, though, and have, in the past, owned sporting equipment.
If there was something leather that I wanted, I'd buy it.
There just never is.

Excellent!! I have the utmost respect for you. You practice what you preach and that is refreshing to see.

I asked because I have a cousin that claims she is a big animal rights activists and b!tchs when I eat meat tell me how horrible I am but wears a leather jacket. :roll:

 

[Just Me 2]

No, I don't wear leather. I wear canvas Converse All-Stars, hemp sandals, faux leather dress-shoes, and I even have a pair of vegan combat boots (all canvas); and I do not and never have had any footballs, soccer balls, or baseball gloves.
My kids have leather boots and accessories, though, and have, in the past, owned sporting equipment.
If there was something leather that I wanted, I'd buy it.
There just never is.

Excellent!! I have the utmost respect for you. You practice what you preach and that is refreshing to see.

I asked because I have a cousin that claims she is a big animal rights activists and b!tchs when I eat meat tell me how horrible I am but wears a leather jacket. :roll:

 

[RightOfCenter]

Excellent!! I have the utmost respect for you. You practice what you preach and that is refreshing to see.

I asked because I have a cousin that claims she is a big animal rights activists and b!tchs when I eat meat tell me how horrible I am but wears a leather jacket. :roll:

So much respect she even said it twice!:2razz:

 

[WI Crippler]

I honestly don't think I could not eat meat. I think breakfast is the only meal I have that I am not consuming meat of some variety. Even then with egg or milk I am consuming animal product. I don't know, animals are tasty.

 

[faithful_servant]

Because I don't need the flesh of animals in order to live. But the animals themselves do.

Haven't you ever heard the story of the three-legged pig???

 

[Just Me 2]

So much respect she even said it twice!:2razz:

Sorry my computer froze in the middle of the post. :3oops:

 

[cherokee]

Who could say NO to this?
Do the cows and pigs not martyr themselves so that we may dine on their flesh?

 

[WI Crippler]

Man, those pictures are making me hungry. There is no finer food on this planet than a well cooked steak. I could eat about 40 oz of steak in one sitting, but have a hard time putting down a small serving of broccoli.

 

[jallman]

Man, those pictures are making me hungry. There is no finer food on this planet than a well cooked steak. I could eat about 40 oz of steak in one sitting, but have a hard time putting down a small serving of broccoli.

Well now I like my vegetables too...but I have to have salt or butter or something on them. A steak...it just needs the flavor of the smoke, though I do like searing a piece of tenderloin in truffle oil. But no need for steak sauce or seasoning most of the time...just a big piece of steak with the blood still running when I cut into it.

 

[cherokee]

Man, those pictures are making me hungry. There is no finer food on this planet than a well cooked steak. I could eat about 40 oz of steak in one sitting, but have a hard time putting down a small serving of broccoli.

I'm with ya lets go!
Broccoli Are you crazy?
How about fried onion pedals instead.


When the wife and I go to Longhorn steak house I always eat this in one sitting. I order two Texas T-Bone’s (16-0z each) one “Texas Tonion” (Jumbo Spanish onion petals, lightly battered, fried and sprinkled with Prairie Dust) and a baked potato. I forgo the salad. .....:chew:

 

[Alien Traveler]

I'm with ya lets go!
When the wife and I go to Longhorn steak house I always eat this in one sitting. I order two Texas T-Bone’s (16-0z each) one “Texas Tonion” (Jumbo Spanish onion petals, lightly battered, fried and sprinkled with Prairie Dust) and a baked potato. I forgo the salad. .....:chew:

I can do better at home. I can cook steak exactly as I like it (slightly burnt, tender and bloody) and I can have a quart a bourbon with it, which is delightful. Of course, for well aged steak I have to go to steakhouse, but it usually sets me back for about $100 per person. And no bourbon!!!

 

[SixStringHero]

Is PETA even aware of the amount of critters that are killed during the threshing process to bring them their vegetables?

Somehow, I doubt it.

 

[Travelsonic]

Me neither.

I personally find no qualms in eating meat in of itself, we are natural omnivores (not herbivores, and not carnivores as PETArds like to misname us all the time) and eating meat is natural. I do think however that the humane treatment of animals should be looked at closely in the places where the problems arise, and we should work to make humane treatment more widespread and afordable if not already.

 

[1069]

Now that cloned animals have been approved for human consumption, I wonder if it will be possible, in the future, to clone brainless animals, ones that are not capable of feeling pain or fear.

 

[jallman]

Now that cloned animals have been approved for human consumption, I wonder if it will be possible, in the future, to clone brainless animals, ones that are not capable of feeling pain or fear.

If people get in a twist over a brainless ZEF, then what makes you think they won't over a brainless animal?