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MILWAUKEE – In a year when political tensions already are running high, a group of protesters is fueling the acrimony by showing up to political rallies and events with a large American flag – and stomping on it.The members of the self-described “F*** Your Flag Tour” most recently popped up at a Donald Trump rally Sunday in West Allis, Wis. They posted themselves next to the line of thousands of people waiting to get into the Republican presidential front-runner’s event at the local high school.
They proceeded to lay the muddied flag on the ground and stand on it, triggering heated exchanges with those nearby.
One man shouted to the group, “My brother is fighting overseas for that flag, pick it up."
Flag-stomping protesters fueling tensions at Trump, other events | Fox News

Appears to be an outcropping the racist BLM radicals. These people don't realize how bad they are pissing people off with this ****.
 

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Flag-stomping protesters fueling tensions at Trump, other events | Fox News

Appears to be an outcropping the racist BLM radicals. These people don't realize how bad they are pissing people off with this ****.

1.)Where is the indication this has anything to do with BLM?
2.)How is BLM racist?
3.)Do you not realize how bad Trump and his racist cohorts are pissing people off with this ****?
4.)They have every right to desecrate the American flag, it is protected speech. Just as Trump and his racists ****s have every right to use racist and hateful language.
 

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"A website with the group’s name and description says the “F**YoFlag” movement called for supporters nationwide to burn the flag last Sept. 11."

Baby, that is harsh & cold! :shock:
 

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Flag-stomping protesters fueling tensions at Trump, other events | Fox News

Appears to be an outcropping the racist BLM radicals. These people don't realize how bad they are pissing people off with this ****.

When asked why the group was specifically choosing Trump events, a lead member told Fox News it is because Trump did not denounce the Ku Klux Klan (a reference to praise from former KKK leader David Duke) and encourages racism.

The group said it is not targeting Trump, but rather the “entire political system including Hillary Clinton.”


I wonder why we haven't seen any pictures of this charming group of well mannered people at Hillary's rallies? Shouldn't they be there telling all of Hillary's black supporters how terrible she is?
 

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"A website with the group’s name and description says the “F**YoFlag” movement called for supporters nationwide to burn the flag last Sept. 11."

Baby, that is harsh & cold! :shock:

“We the people, are psychologically and physically breaking free of the imperialist, colonialist, and racist empires by burning representations starting on September 11, 2015.”

Lovely.
 

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1.)Where is the indication this has anything to do with BLM?
2.)How is BLM racist?
3.)Do you not realize how bad Trump and his racist cohorts are pissing people off with this ****?
4.)They have every right to desecrate the American flag, it is protected speech. Just as Trump and his racists ****s have every right to use racist and hateful language.

I am not a violent guy by any means, but if you desecrate a flag in front of me, I will kick your communist ass all the way back to where you came from. I hang out with many many Trump supporters and they are not racists by any means. I hang out Trump supporters who are Black, Filipino's, Hispanics and Indians ..............and they would kick your ass before I even got to you for trampling the flag. Do you want to all my minority friends racists?

Hillary is pandering with racism........ crickets!
 

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They are trying to incite violence, knowing that if it's against conservatives the MSM will take their side with the old saw "conservatives incite violence and have it coming".

The best thing to do is swear out a complaint of illegal burning. You just can start a fire just anywhere.
 

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1.)Where is the indication this has anything to do with BLM?
2.)How is BLM racist?
3.)Do you not realize how bad Trump and his racist cohorts are pissing people off with this ****?
4.)They have every right to desecrate the American flag, it is protected speech. Just as Trump and his racists ****s have every right to use racist and hateful language.

You are totally right. It is perfectly legitimate and a right protected by the Constitution. It is also a symbolic declaration of enmity towards the county and a majority of its citizens. This does not mean that minorities cannot be right in declaring their rights. But one must also realize that there can be consequences from declaring society your enemy.
 

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1.)Where is the indication this has anything to do with BLM?
Made up primarily of black protesters, it goes by the name of the “F*** Your Flag Tour” and uses the hash tag “F**YoFlag” on social media.

Members of the movement told that Fox News stepping on the American flag symbolizes their stand against black oppression, pointing specifically to recent controversial killings of black men by white police officers, such as the Laquan McDonald case in Chicago.

2.)How is BLM racist?
Seriously?
3.)Do you not realize how bad Trump and his racist cohorts are pissing people off with this ****?
A handful of Trumpkins happen to be racist morons, so to fight that you bring out... racism? That's brilliance.
4.)They have every right to desecrate the American flag, it is protected speech. Just as Trump and his racists ****s have every right to use racist and hateful language.
That's the worst part, they might have the "right too" but these racist slimes don't deserve rights. They need to slither into a hole and never come back out again.
 

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I am not a violent guy by any means, but if you desecrate a flag in front of me, I will kick your communist ass all the way back to where you came from. I hang out with many many Trump supporters and they are not racists by any means. I hang out Trump supporters who are Black, Filipino's, Hispanics and Indians ..............and they would kick your ass before I even got to you for trampling the flag. Do you want to all my minority friends racists?

Hillary is pandering with racism........ crickets!

Trump supporters are unthinking fools.
 

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I have an American flag tattoo. I would like for someone to try and stomp it.
 

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I am not a violent guy by any means, but if you desecrate a flag in front of me, I will kick your communist ass all the way back to where you came from.
Okay... I guess if you did do that, have fun with the lawsuit that would most likely come your way.

I hang out with many many Trump supporters and they are not racists by any means.
So do I. Many arent racist. Many are.
“Goddamn communist, nigger lover! Get out of here,” another Trump supporter can be heard shouting."
https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/status/715149785083297792?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

""Go to ****ing Auschwitz," the man, in video posted by Kyle Bogden on YouTube, repeats, while other Trump supporters file past, chanting "Trump!"

"Donald Trump was right," the two men said, according to police, as they beat the man with a metal pipe and then urinated on him. "All these illegals need to be deported."
Cops: Invoking Trump, 2 men beat up homeless man - CNNPolitics.com

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Trump supporter outside UIC - Chicago Tribune

"The Mexicans are the hairs of a--holes. Viva Donald Trump.” She added, to a female protester, “Clean my hotel room, b----.” She later identified herself as Jackie, age 30, but declined to provide a last name. “Somebody press 1 for English,” hollered Trump supporter David Loutz, 52, at the protesters. He said Trump won his loyalty when he said he would deport millions of undocumented immigrants. “This isn’t going to be painless. They’ve been inflicting pain on us for 20 years,” said Loutz, a van driver, of the anticipated deportation process. “I was very humanitarian until the numbers became overwhelming.”

Donald Trump 2016: Texas rally - POLITICO

-“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.” (USA Today, May 20, 1991)
-“Who the **** knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” (TIME, January 1989)
The 199 Most Donald Trump Things Donald Trump Has Ever Said - POLITICO Magazine

I hang out Trump supporters who are Black, Filipino's, Hispanics and Indians ..............and they would kick your ass before I even got to you for trampling the flag.
Your saying I trample the flag?

Do you want to all my minority friends racists?
Huh?

Hillary is pandering with racism........ crickets!
Huh?
 

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Trump supporters are unthinking fools.

Call them what ever you want, but racists is hardly the word I would use.

I don't like him either, but calling his supporters racists, like some of the drooling rhetoric types on here are doing, is foolish at best.
 

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Seriously?
Are you saying because black people are involved it means it was an organized BLM action?
Or are you asking, "seriously" to my question of how BLM is racist?

A handful of Trumpkins happen to be racist morons, so to fight that you bring out... racism? That's brilliance.
What?

That's the worst part, they might have the "right too" but these racist slimes don't deserve rights.
The worst part is freedom of speech? And now your saying they dont deserve freedom of speech because you dont like their speech? :shock:

They need to slither into a hole and never come back out again.
Hell yea! 'Murica! :roll:
Quite the authoritarian mindset you have here.
 

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Call them what ever you want, but racists is hardly the word I would use.

I don't like him either, but calling his supporters racists, like some of the drooling rhetoric types on here are doing, is foolish at best.

I haven't. I infact have stressed it's a minority of fools supporting him are racist. The rest are caught up in emotion and now are being stubborn fools.
 

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Okay... I guess if you did do that, have fun with the lawsuit that would most likely come your way.


So do I. Many arent racist. Many are.
“Goddamn communist, nigger lover! Get out of here,” another Trump supporter can be heard shouting."
https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/status/715149785083297792?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

""Go to ****ing Auschwitz," the man, in video posted by Kyle Bogden on YouTube, repeats, while other Trump supporters file past, chanting "Trump!"

"Donald Trump was right," the two men said, according to police, as they beat the man with a metal pipe and then urinated on him. "All these illegals need to be deported."
Cops: Invoking Trump, 2 men beat up homeless man - CNNPolitics.com

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Trump supporter outside UIC - Chicago Tribune

"The Mexicans are the hairs of a--holes. Viva Donald Trump.” She added, to a female protester, “Clean my hotel room, b----.” She later identified herself as Jackie, age 30, but declined to provide a last name. “Somebody press 1 for English,” hollered Trump supporter David Loutz, 52, at the protesters. He said Trump won his loyalty when he said he would deport millions of undocumented immigrants. “This isn’t going to be painless. They’ve been inflicting pain on us for 20 years,” said Loutz, a van driver, of the anticipated deportation process. “I was very humanitarian until the numbers became overwhelming.”

Donald Trump 2016: Texas rally - POLITICO

-“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.” (USA Today, May 20, 1991)
-“Who the **** knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” (TIME, January 1989)
The 199 Most Donald Trump Things Donald Trump Has Ever Said - POLITICO Magazine


Your saying I trample the flag?


Huh?


Huh?

You pick a few fools and try to make an argument against the entire Trump base.

You have no argument. You are full of BS!

There are just as many radical Hillary and Bernie supporters who make fools out of themselves.. Let's see you post some of those
 

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Flag-stomping protesters fueling tensions at Trump, other events | Fox News

Appears to be an outcropping the racist BLM radicals. These people don't realize how bad they are pissing people off with this ****.

This is not productive. People have to learn when they do things like this - it is counter productive to their goals and aims.

Back in 1968 I went as a protestor to a Wallace for President rally at Cobo Hall in Detroit. I was a young whippersnapper of just 19 and full of the proverbial piss and vinegar and thought I knew everything. We made up about 10% of the crowd and sat together in a couple of sections with our signs. At the start they played the national anthem and our entire group - probably told by somebody who told us to do it - turned their back on the flag and the crowd. One older guy in our midst who was on our side started telling everyone around him to turn around and kept saying "don't give them the flag". It was some of the best advice I have ever heard about public demonstrations.

These folks need to learn that same lesson.

Don't give them the flag. Its ours as Americans and our protest honors the flag - it should not desecrate it.
 

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Are you saying because black people are involved it means it was an organized BLM action?
Or are you asking, "seriously" to my question of how BLM is racist?


What?


The worst part is freedom of speech? And now your saying they dont deserve freedom of speech because you dont like their speech? :shock:


Hell yea! 'Murica! :roll:
Quite the authoritarian mindset you have here.
Aren't you the Socialist? Trying to preach to me about "Authoritarianism"? LOL
 
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“We the people, are psychologically and physically breaking free of the imperialist, colonialist, and racist empires by burning representations starting on September 11, 2015.”

Lovely.

They sound to be extreme black-nationalists who think 9/11 was an inside job. An extremely unorganized fringe group that is probably incredibly small.
 

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F*** Your Flag Tour doesn't realize how bad they are pissing people off ?

Did you think they where there to make friends or something ?

:lamo

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My guess is, no one ever accused you of being smart.
 

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You pick a few fools and try to make an argument against the entire Trump base.
Many Trump supporters are racists. Do you deny this? Notice how I didnt say "All Trump supporters".
And I also used Trumps own words..
Notice how this is not happening on a rare occurrence, this is happening almost daily now.

You have no argument. You are full of BS!
:lamo Well my argument from the beginning was essentially: This doesnt seem to have anything to do with BLM, and they have every right to do this just as Trump and many of his racist supporters have the right to be open racists..

There are just as many radical Hillary and Bernie supporters who make fools out of themselves.. Let's see you post some of those
Uhhh what? So your argument is now, what? Admittance that Trump has many racists supporters? And that their are dumb Bernie and Hillary supporters? Sure, many of them are probably "fools" but they arent the ones going around calling people "niggers"
 

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I am not a violent guy by any means, but if you desecrate a flag in front of me, I will kick your communist ass all the way back to where you came from. I hang out with many many Trump supporters and they are not racists by any means. I hang out Trump supporters who are Black, Filipino's, Hispanics and Indians ..............and they would kick your ass before I even got to you for trampling the flag. Do you want to all my minority friends racists?

Hillary is pandering with racism........ crickets!

and you would have to go thru me to get the ****yoflag crew
they have a right to engage in free speech
even if that speech is desecrating the America flag
that flag stands for the freedom to do that very act
 

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You misunderstand me, I know you cheer and drool over anything anti-America
Uhhh... No. I simply just said this doesnt seem to have anything to do with BLM, and they have every right to do this just as Trump and many of his racist supporters have the right to be open racists..

so I get that you are predisposed to cheering for people stomping on a symbol that free men have DIED for.
Where was I cheering? Please point to where I cheered for this?

That I and many of my family put our asses on the line for.
Thanks for your service

I know you get all "Need quiet time to watch these videos... alone, in the dark" about that sort of Anti-America hate.
Yup... You're going off the rails.

So I get that you miss my point.
:roll:

I don't CARE that they hate on America. I CARE that these (and the BLM and their associated groups are racist slimes and no racist deserves rights IMHO) slimes are desecrating my Flag, and their basis is such bull**** that it infuriates me.
1.)Where is the indication that BLM organized this?
2.)How is BLM racist? You still have not answered this question.


Now, I'm sure you have a hyper leftwing partisan Marx site to go drool over pictures of people stomping the American flag....
And yup... You have gone off the rails. :screwy
 
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