Five undervaccinated clusters put the entire United States at risk

[HumblePi]

People are waking up to this bs. Most people just want to decide their own fates and are tired of the fearmongering. Good luck with inspiring activists with this bs.

I don't think that the US suffering 606,000 deaths from Covid-19 is anything that even closely resembles 'fear mongering'. It's a global pandemic bud and if you want to decide your own fate, go right ahead but don't dare to decide someone else's fate by infecting someone else.

 

[Overitall]

Yea, and again the funniest thing i saw were people pulling a mask down to smoke

One of biggest no no I saw was criss crossing the bands around your ears creating a gap. Others were not covering their noses. Others were touching masks and then touching other parts of their bodies spreading contamination. I also wonder how often the same mask was reused. The list goes on and makes me wonder why they bothered to wear a mask at all.

 

[Ishm]

i dont see how that is going to happen. Trump cant possibly be president again.

All my sarcasm must have dripped off the post before you read it

 

[SarahSun]

Masks for vaccinated people are only recommended in areas with high or increasing transmission rates like LA. Unfortunately vaccination doesn’t prevent all transmission. There are still a lot of unprotected people out there who aren’t eligible for the vaccines.

You make a good point. This is from Johns Hopkins. So far there is no rise in hospitalizations in CA due to the delta variant

Weekly Hospitalization Trends - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

This chart displays the 7-day trend in overall and Covid-19-specific hospitalization occupancy data to help understand changes in capacity and level of stress on hospitals.

coronavirus.jhu.edu

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend/california/inpatient-capacity

LA could be different

 

[CaughtInThe]

Please feel free to provide charts showing masks work.

Another child like post.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Masks have simply not flattened a curve anywhere.

That sounds like Para.

 

[Overitall]

I don't think that the US suffering 606,000 deaths from Covid-19 is anything that even closely resembles 'fear mongering'. It's a global pandemic bud and if you want to decide your own fate, go right ahead but don't dare to decide someone else's fate by infecting someone else.

I am not afraid nor moved by your appeal to emotion fallacy.

 

[SarahSun]

All my sarcasm must have dripped off the post before you read it

LOL. I read that quickly and thought you were one of the peole thinking Trump will magically be president again. Sorry!

 

[SarahSun]

I am not afraid nor moved by your appeal to emotion fallacy.

What cant ever be known is how many mask wearers infected someone. Based on charts i would say alot.

 

[CaughtInThe]

If there is a guy here who is posting as a female AND USING SOME GIRL'S PICS, then, I don't know. Wow.

 

[HumblePi]

I am not afraid nor moved by your appeal to emotion fallacy.

Then you must not have a speck of empathy for others, just like Trump. It's not in your emotional DNA

 

[Overitall]

What cant ever be known is how many mask wearers infected someone. Based on charts i would say alot.

Ever notice how the areas that mandated masks had some of the largest cases?

 

[Ethel2]

You make a good point. This is from Johns Hopkins. So far there is no rise in hospitalizations in CA due to the delta variant

Weekly Hospitalization Trends - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

This chart displays the 7-day trend in overall and Covid-19-specific hospitalization occupancy data to help understand changes in capacity and level of stress on hospitals.

coronavirus.jhu.edu

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend/california/inpatient-capacity

LA could be different

I haven’t checked the hospitalization rate in LA. But generally more cases= more people in the hospital and more deaths. I know that the vast majority of people getting severe disease nowadays are in people who aren’t vaccinated.
I mean, how stupid is that?
Its like not wearing a seatbelt in a car or not wearing a helmet if you ride a motorcycle.
Nearly all deaths due to Covid are now preventable.

 

[SarahSun]

One of biggest no no I saw was criss crossing the bands around your ears creating a gap. Others were not covering their noses. Others were touching masks and then touching other parts of their bodies spreading contamination. I also wonder how often the same mask was reused. The list goes on and makes me wonder why they bothered to wear a mask at all.

And of course people with masks hanging off the rear view mirror or gear handle.

 

[Overitall]

Then you must not have a speck of empathy for others, just like Trump. It's not in your emotional DNA

Doubling down on the fallacy won't gain you anything.

 

[SarahSun]

Ever notice how the areas that mandated masks had some of the largest cases?

Yes. Im very willing to argue vaccinations work because they do.

 

[SarahSun]

I haven’t checked the hospitalization rate in LA. But generally more cases= more people in the hospital and more deaths. I know that the vast majority of people getting severe disease nowadays are in people who aren’t vaccinated.
I mean, how stupid us that?
Its like not wearing a seatbelt in a car or not wearing a helmet if you ride a motorcycle.
Nearly all deaths due to Covid are now preventable.

We agree on that.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Ever notice how the areas that mandated masks had some of the largest cases?

Ever notice that those areas also have the highest population densities.

Corellation != causation. Why does this even have to be said in the 21st century?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

In order for masks to contribute anything, everyone has to wear them, because MY mask protects
YOU and YOUR mask protects ME, as can be seen in this graphic.
So of course if YOU are the only one wearing a mask, you might not get as much protection.
But please tell me why it is that the United States did not HAVE a flu season in Winter 2020.
Is it just remotely possible that mask wearing might have had a LITTLE bit to do with that?



I mean, if @SarahSun's "thoroughly researched" theories are correct, doctors, surgeons,
nurses and even the hospital dietician and chaplain can now all ditch their masks and trade lip gloss!

 

[Overitall]

And of course people with masks hanging off the rear view mirror or gear handle.

You can be certain that person was rewearing the same contaminated mask. Super duper spreader. Then imagine all the money changing hands in stores. Super spreader events.

 

[trixare4kids]

People sometimes ask me why I hate the rubes so much.

I'd think it would be obvious.

Do what you want but hating others only hurts the hater...

 

[Overitall]

Ever notice that those areas also have the highest population densities.

Corellation != causation. Why does this even have to be said in the 21st century?

So, if they're wearing masks, what's the problem?

 

[HumblePi]

Ever notice how the areas that mandated masks had some of the largest cases?

Can you provide some proof of that because I can prove you wrong.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210415/lower-covid-rates-in-states-that-mandated-masks

Lower COVID Rates in States That Mandated Masks​

THURSDAY, April 15, 2021 (HealthDay News) -- States that required people to mask up last year had lower rates of COVID-19 than those with no mask requirements, a new study finds.

Researchers examined data from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., to assess mask policies, people's self-reported use of masks in public, and COVID rates from May through October 2020.

They factored in a one-month delay between mask wearing and its subsequent potential effect on COVID infection rates.

"States with the lowest levels of mask adherence were most likely to have high COVID-19 rates in the subsequent month, independent of mask policy or demographic factors," the Boston University team recently wrote on the preprint server medRxiv, before their findings had been peer-reviewed.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/wearing-masks-covid-still-important-5183893

Study: States With Mask Mandates Saw Fewer Summertime COVID Cases ​

Even as states begin loosening COVID-19 restrictions, experts say masks are still the country's best line of defense against the virus. A recent study shows that states with high levels of mask-wearing reported fewer COVID-19 cases last summer.

Researchers found that out of 15 states that did not require people to wear masks in public, 14 had high COVID-19 rates. Meanwhile, the eight states that reported 75% or more mask adherence between June 2020 and September 2020 did not have high COVID-19 rates. The findings were published in the journal PLOS One in April.

 

[SarahSun]

You can be certain that person was rewearing the same contaminated mask. Super duper spreader. Then imagine all the money changing hands in stores. Super spreader events.

Thats why i rarely even go to a big store. They made a fortune while govt shut down the competition.

 

[HumblePi]

Doubling down on the fallacy won't gain you anything.

I'm not doubling down on anything. If you have no care for others, then everything I stated is true.