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Five family members shot to death

JMB1911A1 said:
Bullshit. GA has lot of options for public transportation but you prefer your SUV, threatening everyone on the road.
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No it doesn't. Downtown Atlanta maybe but most of Georgia is still rural

And in Norcross, public transport is limited at best

I live here, you don't.
 
Torus34 said:
The headline: Five family members shot to death in home outside Seattle

The link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/22/five-dead-seattle-shooting

The lede: Authorities found five people shot to death inside a home south-east of Seattle on Monday morning and arrested a teenager in connection with the killings, police said.

Guns in the [international] news again.

Once again our gun laws and their levels of enforcement, coupled with our social programs, proved inadequate to prevent this tragedy here in the United States of America. There have been at least 425 mass shootings here in this year to date.*

Three of those slain were young teenagers. Death by gunshot is one of the leading causes of death among children ages 0-17. As of this date 1,130 children ages 0-17 have died of gunshot here in the US.*

Guns in the news.

Again.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

* https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
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Is that really news in America?

I don't mean to be too light etc. But isn't that a kind of 'normal' headline?

It is to me reading American news. It's up there with "bomb explodes in Israel". "Bribery charges against mayor".


Daily shit
 
Rich2018 said:
I many parts of the UK, you don't need a car
London for example.
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Yep, I had a friend who lived in london for about 10 years and didn't have a car the whole time.
The public transport there is amazing and pretty much everyone communtes in as you'd have to be clinically insane to drive into London daily.
It's officialy the slowest traffic in the world even after the congestion charge and ultra low emisions zone.
 
Peter said:
How so?
I want less people to use a car and more people to use public trasport, ride bikes and walk.
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We are doing that.

1. Make sure you have the public transit. Calling for a 'day away' from the car and not having enough busses defeats the purpose.

2. Make sure public transit is affordable.

3. Make sure public transit actually goes to where people need to go. In the us that is a serious problem.

What I have read (this topic is near and dear to me...I only walk and bus) is people abandon the idea immediately when they find there is no direct route where they are going. Having to make one change reduces ridership 30 %. Two changes reduces 75%. Not having retail access at the stops can eliminate ridership altogether when combined with the above.

It's easy to say "leave the car at home". But if the driver doesn't have a reasonable alternative you will only delay the massive transition development that will have to happen sooner of later. We tried that. We even banned divided highways in the city.
Vancouver region has gone from about 225,000 people in 1970 to 5.7 million today. The impact on roads, bridges and other infrastructure has been enormous. I have not seen one year since then when a major bridge or tunnel is not under construction. $400 billion is being spent on transportation infrastructure just to keep pace with the birth rate, let alone the immigration factor.

Vancouver is the wealthiest city in Canada. We have CEO's with million plus incomes living homeless!

Growth is not always a good thing
 
Peter said:
Yep, I had a friend who lived in london for about 10 years and didn't have a car the whole time.
The public transport there is amazing and pretty much everyone communtes in as you'd have to be clinically insane to drive into London daily.
It's officialy the slowest traffic in the world even after the congestion charge and ultra low emisions zone.
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I knew a guy who lived in London, and he not only had no car, he had never driven and didn't have sa drivin licence.

Georgia is not like that.
 
Rich2018 said:
I knew a guy who lived in London, and he not only had no car, he had never driven and didn't have sa drivin licence.

Georgia is not like that.
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It takes a lot of investment to make a city where people can live without a car.
London doesn't have the vast car parks that the US has for example.
You have stadiums surrounded by a sea of parking where we have them built next to train stations and have people use them.

Wembley stadium in London is a good example where there's almost zero parking for a 90k seater stadium and access is via trains and bus routes.
 
Holland is the place to go if you want a car free life.
Towns are built with great cycle and walking routes and the place isn't car focused.
 
Peter said:
It takes a lot of investment to make a city where people can live without a car.
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Yep, and over many years
The London Underground is the envy of the world and was started in 1863.

Peter said:
London doesn't have the vast car parks that the US has for example.
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Nope, but the USA is not all like Georgia. Many downtown bars & restaurants have limited parking if at all
And places like Northern California are like London - you pay to park.

Peter said:
You have stadiums surrounded by a sea of parking where we have them built next to train stations and have people use them.
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Many are like that, but also many are not
Take the Mercedes Benz stadium in Atlanta, I watch Atlanta United football (soccer) team play there and I take an underground (mostly) metro train to get there. Very limited parking.

Peter said:
Wembley stadium in London is a good example where there's almost zero parking for a 90k seater stadium and access is via trains and bus routes.
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I went to the old Wembley in the 70's with my father, for a mid-week game against Germany (lost 1-3). We managed to get a parking spot in the old car park but it was gone midnight until we got out.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Is that really news in America?

I don't mean to be too light etc. But isn't that a kind of 'normal' headline?

It is to me reading American news. It's up there with "bomb explodes in Israel". "Bribery charges against mayor".


Daily shit
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Hi, Fearandloathing.

With a death by gunshot in the US occurring every half hour or so, stories about them are greeted with indifference. The gun lobby spends quite a bit of money to ensure that it remains so. American exceptionalism extends in many directions.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.
 
Torus34 said:
Hi, Fearandloathing.

With a death by gunshot in the US occurring every half hour or so, stories about them are greeted with indifference. The gun lobby spends quite a bit of money to ensure that it remains so. American exceptionalism extends in many directions.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.
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De-sensitization is the gun lobby's greatest tool.
 
Rich2018 said:
No it doesn't. Downtown Atlanta maybe but most of Georgia is still rural

And in Norcross, public transport is limited at best

I live here, you don't.
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Uber. Lyft. No need for an SUV.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes we've been here before, you're OK with me using motor transport, just as long as I don't own it

Property is theft huh JMB ?
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I am just saying that need does not drive what we are allowed to own in the US. That includes firearms, which seems to be point that you miss all the time.
 
RF667799 said:
My condolences.
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For some reason, this meme keeps coming to mind.

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Torus34 said:
Hi, Fearandloathing.

With a death by gunshot in the US occurring every half hour or so, stories about them are greeted with indifference. The gun lobby spends quite a bit of money to ensure that it remains so. American exceptionalism extends in many directions.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.
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Less than 2/100 percent of Americans suffer death by gunshot. And that includes that over half of them choose to die that way.

Sorry...it's just not the crisis that your hyperbole tries to paint it as.
 
CLAX1911 said:
But the possibility the gun will be used to kill everyone in the house is extremely low the possibility that they're going to be used to kill anyone in the house is extremely low.

The risk isn't there.
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Too bad the "extremely low" risk was acceptable to these parents.
 
CLAX1911 said:
He'd be so well around here I'm an armed gay and I make make it my mission to make sure my brethren know how to use firearms.
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Awesome. I was thinking of volunteering for Operation Blazing Sword. Check it out. They do good work.
 
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