Fiery plane crash kills 179 in worst airline disaster in South Korea -- Who is responsible?

[RedAkston]

Your post was about the South Korean plane crash.

This thread is about the plane crash in Kazakhastan.

Once again, do try to read the OP before commenting.

This thread is about the South Korean plane crash. How about you know where you are before chastising another poster? You owe someone an apology.

 

[Deuce]

Yes, you could see the landing gear was still up, suggesting hydraulics issue, assuming would probably affect flaps, too.

Emergency gear extension requires no hydraulics, you just pull some cables behind the FO's seat to release the up locks and gravity does the rest. There's also a brake hydraulic accumulator that will store some pressure to activate brakes.

The aircraft appeared to have normal control capability on final and the thrust reverser on the right engine appeared deployed during the skid, so hydraulic functions were at least partially available.

 

[Deuce]

My thoughts exactly. Did like you - saw the video and they were doing fine (well...) until they reached the end of the runway. I heard it was a concrete embankment they hit. Concrete or dirt or whatever, who was the genius that thought that would be a good idea?

Probably the human beings on the other side of it?

 

[redbeer]

Emergency gear extension requires no hydraulics, you just pull some cables behind the FO's seat to release the up locks and gravity does the rest. There's also a brake hydraulic accumulator that will store some pressure to activate brakes.

The aircraft appeared to have normal control capability on final and the thrust reverser on the right engine appeared deployed during the skid, so hydraulic functions were at least partially available.

Interesting.....hopefully more information will become available.

 

[dandolo2k]

Your post was about the South Korean plane crash.

This thread is about the plane crash in Kazakhastan.

Once again, do try to read the OP before commenting.

Nope this post is not about Kazakhstan
It was intended to show that the West is trying to pin every air crash on Russia, because the West is trying to stigmatize Russia.
It was initially about catastrophe in South Korea and I was sure the posters will immediately find some Russian trace in this event , some Russian involvement .
This is how South Korea was added to the Russian theme.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Nope this post is not about Kazakhstan
It was intended to show that the West is trying to pin every air crash on Russia, because the West is trying to stigmatize Russia.
It was initially about catastrophe in South Korea and I was sure the posters will immediately find some Russian trace in this event , some Russian involvement .
This is how South Korea was added to the Russian theme.

Try harder. There has been no blaming of Russia in this thread.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

CORRECT. I don't know anything about quality of Brazilian Embraer planes. But I don't see any solid evidence yet about Russian involvement in the latest crash.

Embraer is one of two major regional jet manufacturers ( ie smaller than the 737 and A319) along with Bombardier.

Generally considered safe certainly not the same issues Boeing has had with the 737 new models

 

[dandolo2k]

Embraer is one of two major regional jet manufacturers ( ie smaller than the 737 and A319) along with Bombardier.

Generally considered safe certainly not the same issues Boeing has had with the 737 new models

Bombardier is a Canadian manufacturer. It is not clear , whether it continues to build airplanes.

 

[Peter]

Bombardier is a Canadian manufacturer. It is not clear , whether it continues to build airplanes.

A subsidiary built all the trains for the new fancy pants Elizabeth Line in London and they have a large train manufacturing presence in the UK.

British Rail Class 345 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dandolo2k]

A subsidiary built all the trains for the new fancy pants Elizabeth Line in London and they have a large train manufacturing presence in the UK.

British Rail Class 345 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is excellent but we were speaking about airplanes. I don't know anything about airplanes, built by Bombardier now.

 

[Peter]

This is excellent but we were speaking about airplanes. I don't know anything about airplanes, built by Bombardier now.

I'm pretty sure they do and are managing to gain orders since the problems with Boeing and Airbus already having a full order book for the next decade or so.

Making more planes is not something you just quickly build a new factory for so even if Airbus started today they couldn't make many more jets for at least 6 or 7 years.
I think I remember Airbus buying the aircraft part of bombardier a while ago but I could be wrong.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Bombardier is a Canadian manufacturer. It is not clear , whether it continues to build airplanes.

It does, the A220 was " sold" to airbus. But still makes Canadair and propeller Bombardier aircraft

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

It does, the A220 was " sold" to airbus. But still makes Canadair and propeller Bombardier aircraft

Bombardier is a Canadian manufacturer. It is not clear , whether it continues to build airplanes.

You are correct, Bombardier has divested itself of its aerospace manufacturing divisions

 

[beefheart]

It does, the A220 was " sold" to airbus. But still makes Canadair and propeller Bombardier aircraft

A220 is a fantastic aircraft. Long range for a smaller plane. Delta and Breeze have several of them.