Fentanyl bill in California stalled, Democrat senators fear more criminals would go to jail.

[Pippi Longstock]

It's difficult to believe that we still see drug use as a criminal matter. IThe policies have been a failure for generations, but people still push it. It's all so tragic.

So you don't care that people are dying? nice

 

[stealthycat]

So you don't care that people are dying? nice

I've said it over and over, people dying isn't a concern in the USA, we really don't care as a society

what matters it if we can JUSTIFY it

people drying from cars? no problem, people want cars. people dying from tobacco and alcohol? again no problem because people want it.

dying from drugs? no

 

[Opossum]

2021

Anything in 2024?

Why does the date matter? If anything, this shows a patter of the left allowing criminals to terrorize the people they are supposed to help protect, because we see this shit going on all over the place today.

 

[roguenuke]

Why does the date matter? If anything, this shows a patter of the left allowing criminals to terrorize the people they are supposed to help protect, because we see this shit going on all over the place today.

No. These posts of outdated info, involving things that have, at least in part, already passed, shows that you are not keeping up with what is being done.

 

[Opossum]

No. These posts of outdated info, involving things that have, at least in part, already passed, shows that you are not keeping up with what is being done.

We can see what has been done, and being done. A pattern is a pattern. Hell, the liberals in California push back against making buying a child for sex, which is currently a misdemeanor. It failed to pass in 2014 and it's back up for debate today.

Purchasing a child for sex is a misdemeanor in California, lawmakers to debate classifying it as a felony

California lawmakers next week are set to debate a proposal that would ramp up the consequences for consumers of the child sex trafficking industry

www.kcra.com

 

[roguenuke]

We can see what has been done, and being done. A pattern is a pattern. Hell, the liberals in California push back against making buying a child for sex, which is currently a misdemeanor. It failed to pass in 2014 and it's back up for debate today.

Purchasing a child for sex is a misdemeanor in California, lawmakers to debate classifying it as a felony

California lawmakers next week are set to debate a proposal that would ramp up the consequences for consumers of the child sex trafficking industry

www.kcra.com

Myself and others have provided evidence for what has been done in relation to the actual thread topic. You provide a link to a different issue instead. That's called deflection.

And the opposition of that proposed change is much more about specific things within the law, not changing the law itself.

In its opposition, the association said the proposed law "punishes some defendants more harshly – felony punishment and sex offender registration – even when those persons do not have the intent to have sex with a minor. This change will unfortunately lump some defendants into the category of “sex offender” with lifelong consequences for them and their families even though the intent is completely lacking."

 

[Opossum]

Myself and others have provided evidence for what has been done in relation to the actual thread topic. You provide a link to a different issue instead. That's called deflection.

State what you think the topic is, because I don't think you actually know it.

 

[roguenuke]

State what you think the topic is, because I don't think you actually know it.

Addressing fentanyl within California, and the OP claiming that Democrats were stalling this, using a link from years ago. And it was pointed out that several fentanyl bills have passed in California, many unanimously, and several others still being debated were introduced by Democrats.

 

[Opossum]

Addressing fentanyl within California, and the OP claiming that Democrats were stalling this, using a link from years ago. And it was pointed out that several fentanyl bills have passed in California, many unanimously, and several others still being debated were introduced by Democrats.

Like I thought, you didn't know what the topic was. The topic is Democrats are soft on criminals and that results in more law-abiding citizens to be victims and societal breakdown (e.g. women being punched in the face or mass looting causing stores to be shut down). The topic of the fentanyl bill was just an example to point at.

 

[roguenuke]

Like I thought, you didn't know what the topic was. The topic is Democrats are soft on criminals and that results in more law-abiding citizens to be victims and societal breakdown (e.g. women being punched in the face or mass looting causing stores to be shut down). The topic of the fentanyl bill was just an example to point at.

That's not the topic. If it is, then you are admitting this is a bait thread, just setup to disparage Democrats.

 

[Opossum]

That's not the topic. If it is, then you are admitting this is a bait thread, just setup to disparage Democrats.

*sigh* People who fail to let themselves be educated are so annoying.

Here is the title:

"Fentanyl bill in California stalled, Democrat senators fear more criminals would go to jail"
See that part in bold? Now let's look at what the OP wrote (right off the top):

"And once again, the Democrats protect the criminals more than the citizenry."

So, again, the topic is Democrats being soft on crime and that results in law abiding citizens having to do with the fallout. The story about Fentanyl was just an example of that overarching point.

 

[roguenuke]

*sigh* People who fail to let themselves be educated are so annoying.

Here is the title:

"Fentanyl bill in California stalled, Democrat senators fear more criminals would go to jail"
See that part in bold? Now let's look at what the OP wrote (right off the top):

"And once again, the Democrats protect the criminals more than the citizenry."

So, again, the topic is Democrats being soft on crime and that results in law abiding citizens having to do with the fallout. The story about Fentanyl was just an example of that overarching point.

The topic of the thread was that bill, not simply "Democrats protect criminals", which was basically just a partisan jab at Democrats. The main topic was that bill. It was initially put in the "breaking news" category and then moved to here.

You are gaslighting here, big time. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Opossum]

The topic of the thread was that bill, not simply "Democrats protect criminals", which was basically just a partisan jab at Democrats. The main topic was that bill. It was initially put in the "breaking news" category and then moved to here.

You are gaslighting here, big time. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I tried. Wallow in ignorance.

 

[Nickyjo]

Dems love criminals because they themselves are criminals.

Oh yes, there was the democrat Nixon who had so many indicted and go to jai… Oops! he was republican you say? Well there was Bush who started a war based on the reality of WMD in Ira… What, he was GOP?…Now we have democrat Trump facing four criminal charg…Oh, he’s now a republican?

My bad.

 

[Pippi Longstock]

I've said it over and over, people dying isn't a concern in the USA, we really don't care as a society

what matters it if we can JUSTIFY it

people drying from cars? no problem, people want cars. people dying from tobacco and alcohol? again no problem because people want it.

dying from drugs? no

Not exactly sure where you are coming from.
It’s not a drug as much as it is a poison anyone who can’t see the difference in dying from fentanyl is playing dumb and ignoring the severity of what is a needless death. They should be prosecuting anyone who gets busted with fentanyl not acting like nothing can be done about it.

 

[stealthycat]

Not exactly sure where you are coming from.
It’s not a drug as much as it is a poison anyone who can’t see the difference in dying from fentanyl is playing dumb and ignoring the severity of what is a needless death. They should be prosecuting anyone who gets busted with fentanyl not acting like nothing can be done about it.

nobody cares that 100,000 are dying from drug overdoses - society simply doesn't care because people want their drugs

you're right - its ignoring ..... people in general DO NOT CARE about people dying. If we did? We'd do something about it

but we're not, are we ?

 

[PoS]

Oh yes, there was the democrat Nixon who had so many indicted and go to jai… Oops! he was republican you say? Well there was Bush who started a war based on the reality of WMD in Ira… What, he was GOP?…Now we have democrat Trump facing four criminal charg…Oh, he’s now a republican?

My bad.

Look at what Biden's doing. His crimes are putting all your examples to shame.

 

[Nickyjo]

Look at what Biden's doing. His crimes are putting all your examples to shame.

Name his crimes.

 

[PoS]

Name his crimes.

His bribery scheme with his son, weaponizing the FBI and the courts, stealing classified docs and getting away with it. And the other dems too: Obama ordering drone killings of US citizens (including children) without trial, Hillary's bribe taking and email leaks, etc. Lots of blame on both sides, so your defense of these horrific dem crimes is hypocritical.

 

[Nickyjo]

His bribery scheme with his son,

No daddy connection has been shown.

weaponizing the FBI and the courts,

No evidence of this, other than from Trump’s bleatings.

stealing classified docs and getting away with it.

As with Pence and unlike Trump, the docs were returned when discovered.

And the other dems too: Obama ordering drone killings of US citizens (including children) without trial, Hillary's bribe taking and email leaks, etc. Lots of blame on both sides, so your defense of these horrific dem crimes is hypocritical.

Nothing compares to Trump. He is in a class by himself.

 

[PoS]

No daddy connection has been shown.

No evidence of this, other than from Trump’s bleatings.

As with Pence and unlike Trump, the docs were returned when discovered.

Nothing compares to Trump. He is in a class by himself.

Evidence as to what Biden has done is obvious. You just refuse to see the truth because youre biased.

 

[EnigmaO01]

Article is a year old.

Have anything more recent?

 

[Nickyjo]

Evidence as to what Biden has done is obvious. You just refuse to see the truth because youre biased.

Just Google the topic with search words like “comparison of Biden, Pence and Trump retention of documents.” Pence and Biden returned the documents when discovered, no subpoenas necessary. Trump didn’t, and ignored the subpoena.

But to paraphrase The Donald’s own comment on his supporters, Trump could read and distribute classified documents on Fifth Avenue and still not lose some of his MAGA faithful.

 

[PoS]

Just Google the topic with search words like “comparison of Biden, Pence and Trump retention of documents.” Pence and Biden returned the documents when discovered, no subpoenas necessary. Trump didn’t, and ignored the subpoena.

But to paraphrase The Donald’s own comment on his supporters, Trump could read and distribute classified documents on Fifth Avenue and still not lose some of his MAGA faithful.

LOL google isnt a rebuttal. Try again.

 

[Nickyjo]

LOL google isnt a rebuttal. Try again.

I dont understand. There are several sources that compare the three instances. Do you deny that Pence and Biden returned the documents when discovered, or that Trump retained them, ignoring a subpoena? That doesn’t in itself make Donald a bad person, just (as we know) someone who does not believe rules apply to him.