FEMA Meets the Press, Which Happens to Be . . . FEMA

[Thorgasm]

Re: Why surprised?

I think the answer is obvious.

When the media acted in a biased manner, during Katrina, to unfairly paint FEMA as the bad guy NO ONE was asking the right questions. No one was getting the information out which would have fairly portrayed the truth of the matter.

Not even Fox News was immune, with the greatly admired anchor/reporter Shep Smith (a native son) being guilty of highly emotionalized reportage. And with the deluge of facts, lies, rumors, opinions and emotions all mixed together and being broadcast to those of us who have come to expect that we'll have ALL the facts needed to pass judgment on the events in the news and those of us who NEED a scapegoat, the picture was generally that Bush, the Administration, The Feds, the G.O.P., FEMA and Brownie were it.

The media served up the Feds to a rabidly anti-Fed public and painted FEMA as screwing it all up out of malicious intent, political retribution, racist design and massive incompetence.

If the media doesn't get it right and is acting to feed lies and the wrong impression to the public, then what should be done to get out the truth?

We talk about failures of the government all the time, well this thread is nothing more and nothing less than proof of the failure of the media.

For people who consider themselves politically aware you should be ashamed that you'd have to ask me that question. (Without benefit of a required, "?".)

At least!

This has what to do with staged news conferences?(happy?) Holy Strawman, Batman!!!

Edit: Katrina didn't start the Southern California fires. Buy a globe.:2wave:

 

[Hatuey]

Re: Why surprised?

Lern too reed.

Your so ridiculously partisan it's not even a joke.

Your statement :

If the media doesn't get it right and is acting to feed lies and the wrong impression to the public, then what should be done to get out the truth?

The governement obviously created a FAKE podium on which to hype themselves up by answering softball "questions". This is called misinforming the public. Being spurious. Dishonest. Call it whatever you want. Whatever you want to call it, it is something the current administration and it's agents are notoriously famous for. You have tried to defend them and you've been bitch slapped. Want seconds?

 

[bhkad]

Well, you are pretty good at it. They could've had a real press conference, and answered actual questions I suppose. If they had told the truth, the media wouldn't have any lies to report.

I notice how in every post you post that "The White House and DHS condemn ... blah blah blah..." yet you still make excuses for the actions of FEMA. So was it right or wrong for them to have done that?

Well, at LEAST you read what's posted. That is to your credit! :yes:

They held press conferences during Katrina, too. And yet the truth never got out. And there are STILL lots of folks who think FEMA was at fault when it was actually FEMA who had to come in and perform when the locals failed.

I'm acknowledging this fake press party was something that crossed the line. And I'm telling you that it stands as a testament to how far afield these good dedicated public servants have to go to try to prevent the leftist media from distorting the truth and spreading a false impression.

Homeland Security and the White House have issued critical statements of the press conference. It isn't common practice and it won't be repeated. But now that these statements have been made the issue won't be dropped.

 

[bhkad]

This post is especially for bhkad.

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]White House: Fake FEMA news conference won't happen again[/FONT]

The White House has pretty much apologized for the incident, and admits it was wrong.

What do you have to say about THAT, bhkad? Bush is against you, and everything they are saying is against what you are saying.

You don't like it? That is what the Bush administration is saying, you Bush bashing, terrorist loving, un-American hippie. :mrgreen:

I'll say that when you don't bother to read the thread you will be made to look stupid.

Homeland Security and the White House have issued critical statements of the press conference. It isn't common practice and it won't be repeated. But now that these statements have been made the issue won't be dropped.

This is posted here in this thread for the third time at least.

 

[bhkad]

Re: Why surprised?

This has what to do with staged news conferences?(happy?) Holy Strawman, Batman!!!

Edit: Katrina didn't start the Southern California fires. Buy a globe.:2wave:

Try switching to a different substance which won't make your brain as sluggish. :2wave:

 

[danarhea]

I'll say that when you don't bother to read the thread you will be made to look stupid.



This is posted here in this thread for the third time at least.

Interesting that you are now posting this when your posting before was:

If the media doesn't get it right and is acting to feed lies and the wrong impression to the public, then what should be done to get out the truth?

Flip flopping again? Sure looks like it to me.

 

[bhkad]

Re: Why surprised?

Your so ridiculously partisan it's not even a joke.

Your statement :

The governement obviously created a FAKE podium on which to hype themselves up by answering softball "questions". This is called misinforming the public. Being spurious. Dishonest. Call it whatever you want. Whatever you want to call it, it is something the current administration and it's agents are notoriously famous for. You have tried to defend them and you've been bitch slapped. Want seconds?

Nah. The bitch slap was when I cut through the BS of this thread and and got to the heart of the matter.

The Louisiana locals mismanaged the Katrina disaster response and it was up to FEMA to get it right. The Press mismanaged the truth of Katrina and it was FEMA who was erroneously blamed. So this time, before the Press could mismanage the truth again FEMA sought to bypass the ineffective press so that FEMA could make sure the information was 'done right.'

Homeland Security and the White House have issued critical statements of the press conference. It isn't common practice and it won't be repeated. But now that these statements have been made the issue won't be dropped.

 

[winston53660]

Re: Why surprised?

The Louisiana locals mismanaged the Katrina disaster response and it was up to Katrina to get it right. The Press mismanaged the truth of Katrina and it was FEMA who was erroneously blamed. So this time, before the Press could mismanage the truth again FEMA sought to bypass the ineffective press so that FEMA could make sure the information was 'done right.'

Amazing your solution to BS is to simply pile on more BS.

 

[bhkad]

Interesting that you are now posting this when your posting before was:

Flip flopping again? Sure looks like it to me.

Of course it would! :lamo

When someone crosses the line of professionalism but they have a good reason for doing so, most good judges want to know why. None of those good judges would call it flip-flopping.

(As if flip-flopping is a crime. :mrgreen: )

Homeland Security and the White House have issued critical statements of the press conference. It isn't common practice and it won't be repeated. But now that these statements have been made the issue won't be dropped.

 

[Thorgasm]

I'm acknowledging this fake press party was something that crossed the line. And I'm telling you that it stands as a testament to how far afield these good dedicated public servants have to go to try to prevent the leftist media from distorting the truth and spreading a false impression.

Right.:roll: Staging press conferences is the liberal media's fault. What a hack!

 

[bhkad]

Re: Why surprised?

Amazing your solution to BS is to simply pile on more BS.

I think you are just looking at the world through crap-colored glasses.

 

[bhkad]

Right.:roll: Staging press conferences is the liberal media's fault. What a hack!

When denied the opportunity to get an honest shake in the press who wouldn't be inclined to play unfairly like the opponent (liberal media) plays unfairly?

 

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[Thorgasm]

When denied the opportunity to get an honest shake in the press who wouldn't be inclined to play unfairly like the opponent (liberal media) plays unfairly?

Since you put it that way, I still disagree.:mrgreen:

It sounds like you support Iran, China, and North Korea's policies on the press.

Really Bhkad, if the media is going to lie, does it matter who asks the questions? FEMA's words are their own. How does FEMA also asking the questions change anything? All it does is make FEMA look unethical. The press will cover it however they choose to regardless. The press didn't force FEMA's answers in New Orleans.

 

[bhkad]

Since you put it that way, I still disagree.:mrgreen:

It sounds like you support Iran, China, and North Korea's policies on the press.

Really Bhkad, if the media is going to lie, does it matter who asks the questions? FEMA's words are their own. How does FEMA also asking the questions change anything? All it does is make FEMA look unethical. The press will cover it however they choose to regardless. The press didn't force FEMA's answers in New Orleans.

No, the press didn't force FEMA's answers but in an attempt to try to get the word out correctly can you blame them for trying to bypass who they thought was the problem...the biased press?

I'm not defending it as much as explaining why they might have done it.

Along those same lines, I'm not saying their tactics were well executed or even thoroughly thought out.

Homeland Security and the White House have issued critical statements of the press conference. It isn't common practice and it won't be repeated. But now that these statements have been made the issue won't be dropped.

 

[Thorgasm]

I'm not defending it as much as explaining why they might have done it.

Along those same lines, I'm not saying their tactics were well executed or even thoroughly thought out.

Ok, we are getting closer to the truth. What were you doing? Threadjacking or trolling? Remember, this isn't the Katrina thread.

 

[bhkad]

Ok, we are getting closer to the truth. What were you doing? Threadjacking or trolling? Remember, this isn't the Katrina thread.

What you are doing is the same thing the press does. They :spin: the truth. And so are you trying to :spin: my contributions here.

I was neither jacking nor trolling.

 

[Thorgasm]

What you are doing is the same thing the press does. They :spin: the truth. And so are you trying to :spin: my contributions here.

I was neither jacking nor trolling.

Ok, got it, Strawmanning!:rofl

 

[bhkad]

Ok, got it, Strawmanning!:rofl

Ok. I'll step back from this thread awhile and let's see where it goes.

 

[Donc]

I wonder if I could request some better news from Brownies hirelings? If anybody wants to listen to the official "Pravda USA"podcast here’s a link.




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[danarhea]

When denied the opportunity to get an honest shake in the press who wouldn't be inclined to play unfairly like the opponent (liberal media) plays unfairly?

And that is not the way Bush sees it. The administration has come down hard on FEMA for doing that, and FEMA has apologized for doing it. Why? Because faking a news conference was a completely immoral thing to do. At least Bush saw it for the lame and unethical act it was, and his administration promised never to do it again. It quite surprised me, but I have no problems giving the president his due on this.

Too bad you can only blame others instead of admitting responsibility. For you to take the position you did must mean that you believe that Bush is morally bankrupt, and you support that moral bankruptcy. I am glad that Bush did not believe the end justifies the means in this case, as you seem to. Karl Marx would have been proud of you.

As much of a Bush supporter you are, I have to ask why you don't give him credit for doing the right thing, but continue to act as if doing sleazy things is what he stands for, and that you support the sleaziness you believe he has. With Bush's support at 24%, he would be better off with more enemies instead of supporters like you.

 

[bhkad]

And that is not the way Bush sees it. The administration has come down hard on FEMA for doing that, and FEMA has apologized for doing it. Why? Because faking a news conference was a completely immoral thing to do. At least Bush saw it for the lame and unethical act it was, and his administration promised never to do it again. It quite surprised me, but I have no problems giving the president his due on this.

Too bad you can only blame others instead of admitting responsibility. For you to take the position you did must mean that you believe that Bush is morally bankrupt, and you support that moral bankruptcy. I am glad that Bush did not believe the end justifies the means in this case, as you seem to. Karl Marx would have been proud of you.

As much of a Bush supporter you are, I have to ask why you don't give him credit for doing the right thing, but continue to act as if doing sleazy things is what he stands for, and that you support the sleaziness you believe he has. With Bush's support at 24%, he would be better off with more enemies instead of supporters like you.

Homeland Security and the White House have issued critical statements of the press conference. It isn't common practice and it won't be repeated. But now that these statements have been made the issue won't be dropped.

So, how long IS your attention span?

 

[danarhea]

So, how long IS your attention span?

You keep posting that, but you also keep defending what they were doing. My attention span is fine. How is your flip-floppiness?

 

[bhkad]

You keep posting that, but you also keep defending what they were doing. My attention span is fine. How is your flip-floppiness?

If you keep asking the same questions you must either be ADD or brain addled.

Of course it would! :lamo

When someone crosses the line of professionalism but they have a good reason for doing so, most good judges want to know why. None of those good judges would call it flip-flopping.

(As if flip-flopping is a crime. :mrgreen: )

I'm not defending it as much as explaining why they might have done it.

Along those same lines, I'm not saying their tactics were well executed or even thoroughly thought out.

 

[Thorgasm]

Why didn't they just read a statement instead of interviewing themselves?