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Federal Judge Reverses Alabama’s 'Noncitizen' Voter Purge That Caught Up Hundreds Of Real Citizens Federal law prohibits changing voter rolls less tha

Luce said:
That's deliberate dishonesty on their part, then, because the behavior in the OP article had nothing to do with people requesting their own removal from the rolls.

In addition, despite being shown otherwise, that person also claimed that existing programs can go up to the day of the election, which is specifically forbidden by the act.
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It specifically states it can.

This idea that unlawfully registered voters get a free pass to vote as long as they were not caught after Aug 1c of an election year is without foundation.
 
Luce said:
Okay.



Is that what was going on in Alabama? No, it was not. Please attempt to be more honest.
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They were creating new programs, using old information of eligibility status that may no longer be valid.
The judge said Alabama can continue to maintain their rolls as long as its individualized.
 
Athanasius68 said:
It specifically states it can.
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It does not. Individual changes, at the request of the voter or the voter's estate, or a judge, can remove or correct an individual voter's place on the rolls.

It does not allow roll maintenance programs beyond the 90 day limit.
Athanasius68 said:
This idea that unlawfully registered voters get a free pass to vote as long as they were not caught after Aug 1c of an election year is without foundation.
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Except for the black letter law I quoted to you.

Section 8 requires States to complete any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official list of eligible voters not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary election or general election for federal office.
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Hatuey said:
When Democrats claim there is cheating, a bunch of Republicans get caught acting as foreign agents for Russia, a president gets caught asking state officials to find him votes, fake electors are exposed.

When Republicans claim there is cheating, thousands of US citizens have their voting rights infringed.

Remember that in November, folks.
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From Maine comes this funny story of Republicans getting hoist on their own voter fraud petard. About 20 years ago the R's forced the legislature to investigate the Democrats claiming they brought busloads of out of state elderly to vote Democratic. The legislature complied with a thorough investigation. They found one case in Portland which was probably due to the voters confusion in moving to a different voting district and one at Bates College. A student,the son of the head of the Republican Committee in New Hampshire, had voted in Maine and NH.

R's have since been relatively quiet about voter fraud and no investigations have been called for.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Then I present the paperwork demonstrating I was improperly removed.
And cast a provisional ballot.
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Some people don't even find out unless they double-check. Even though they've been registered forever.

Again, I think you need to be purged one day before the election.
 
Luce said:
It does not. Individual changes, at the request of the voter or the voter's estate, or a judge, can remove or correct an individual voter's place on the rolls.

It does not allow roll maintenance programs beyond the 90 day limit.

Except for the black letter law I quoted to you.
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Athanasius68 said:
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You're wrong.

What Alabama did was a systemic program on the voter rolls, which is forbidden to begin or continue at 90 days prior to the election.

Individual corrections and removals can be done, but only the voter, his estate, or a judge.
 
Luce said:
You're wrong.

What Alabama did was a systemic program on the voter rolls, which is forbidden to begin or continue at 90 days prior to the election.
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The judge permitted Alabama to continue such maintenance provided it was individualized...
Luce said:
Individual corrections and removals can be done, but only the voter, his estate, or a judge.
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… and according to state law.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The judge permitted Alabama to continue such maintenance provided it was individualized...


… and according to state law.
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Wrong, they used a program to do it themselves based on their presumptions of citizenship....which isn't an exception. You do realize that a person may have not been a citizen when they first received their license and could be a citizen now, right?
 
ClaraD said:
you do realize that at DMV most of the people registered did not fill out the registration themselves...a DMV employee did.
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What kind of DMV do you go to, where you let the employee check off boxes for you? Do it yourself.
 
Luce said:
Link? I'd like to see exactly what was said.
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Note 86

Luce said:
You might have missed that supremacy clause thing.
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The federal law exempts state laws enforcing voter registration reviews.
Federal law REQUIRES states to ensure their voting rolls are current and accurate.
 
its a damn shame we have so many illegally here people voting illegally that its come down to fighting to get them off the voter registrations

thank you Democrats for allowing tens of millions to pour into the states illegally :(
 
ClaraD said:
Wrong, they used a program to do it themselves based on their presumptions of citizenship....which isn't an exception. You do realize that a person may have not been a citizen when they first received their license and could be a citizen now, right?
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In Alabama, they were using older information.

In Virginia (which is also being sued) they are not. Virginia law uses current DMV paperwork that is sent to the Election board monthly (when the DMV paperwork shows that the person claims not to be a citizen).
Those kinds of ongoing voter roll maintenance (current law was enacted in 2006) is specifically exempted from that 90 day restriction.
 
Athanasius68 said:
You folks seem to be under the impression that the voting rolls are static; nobody moves, nobody dies, nobody becomes a naturalized citizen, nobody turns 18.

Its an ongoing process. The law doesn't require that the process freezes every two years at the beginning of August.
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If you are removed from voter rolls incorrectly, what does that mean for your registration status and what happens next?

Have you ever been removed from a voter roll?
 
Athanasius68 said:
In Alabama, they were using older information.

In Virginia (which is also being sued) they are not. Virginia law uses current DMV paperwork that is sent to the Election board monthly (when the DMV paperwork shows that the person claims not to be a citizen).
Those kinds of ongoing voter roll maintenance (current law was enacted in 2006) is specifically exempted from that 90 day restriction.
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So, if they were using older information...why didn't they do it before the 90 days?
 
Athanasius68 said:
Note 86
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Athanasius68 said:
The federal law exempts state laws enforcing voter registration reviews.
Federal law REQUIRES states to ensure their voting rolls are current and accurate.
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Wow, I'm amazed at the left leaning here who are fight so hard to keep illegal and ineligible voters on the voter rolls.
Like there was some underlying election strategy for it.
 
Hatuey said:
If you are removed from voter rolls incorrectly, what does that mean for your registration status and what happens next?
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Nothing.
Re- register
Hatuey said:
Have you ever been removed from a voter roll?
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Hope so. I'd hate to think I am still on the voting rolls in Maine and New Jersey.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Shrug.
As the article explains, the judge is permitting Alabama to continue removing people from the rolls, as long as its not part of that specific program he ruled upon.

The claim about the existence of a 'blanket' law about not allowing removing ineligible voters 90 days before an election is false. Such a law simply does not exist.

It is 'misinformation' to say otherwise. and it contributes to the spreading of false claims of 'voter suppression' and it undermines faith in the electoral system.
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Well, here's post 86.

And it's wrong, as has been demonstrated.
 
Anthony60 said:
There's only one reason to not want voter ID and to want non citizens to be registered to vote. You want to commit fraud.
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The two ways to rig an election count are to either fraudulently add fake votes, or to fraudulently subtract real votes.

The former is an imaginary problem that has never swayed an election. The former is the very real method the GOP is using to rig our elections, to destroy our ability to be represented in our own government.
 
Luce said:
Well, here's post 86.

And it's wrong, as has been demonstrated.
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Shrug.
It's quite clear.
Not sure why people think unlawfully registered voters get a free pass to vote if their transgressions are not discovered until less than 90 days before an election.

There is certainly no law that says this.
 
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