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That'll teach him for not bringing his seat and tray table to a complete upright position.aps said:
shuamort said:That'll teach him for not bringing his seat and tray table to a complete upright position.
Seriously, who would claim they have a bomb in their carry-on, then run away from agents and then attempt to reach in the bag while running away?
scottyz said:It sounds like a case of suicide by cop. He was mentally ill and off his meds from what i've read.
FinnMacCool said:Well that **** happens I guess. They probably didn't know what he could've had in his bag and they were afraid. Firing a weapon a plane is kinda dangerous though.
I'm guessing "No one twice"...shuamort said:Seriously, who would claim they have a bomb in their carry-on, then run away from agents and then attempt to reach in the bag while running away?
JustMyPOV said:I'm unsure of the nature of the man's mental stability, but one thing that's comforting is that the FAM's are on the job, and aren't afraid to use deadly force if necessary. If this had been an actual terrorist there'd be a great deal more praise for these brave people who play a major role in ensuring safety on airliners.
To the woman who lost her husband I certainly will say a prayer for her, and I'm sorry for her loss, but I hope she understands that the FAMs were only doing their job.
I agree completely. It's an unfortunate situation, but the FAM's certainly did their job and that is encouraging.JustMyPOV said:I'm unsure of the nature of the man's mental stability, but one thing that's comforting is that the FAM's are on the job, and aren't afraid to use deadly force if necessary. If this had been an actual terrorist there'd be a great deal more praise for these brave people who play a major role in ensuring safety on airliners.
To the woman who lost her husband I certainly will say a prayer for her, and I'm sorry for her loss, but I hope she understands that the FAMs were only doing their job.
FinnMacCool said:Firing a weapon a plane is kinda dangerous though.
KCConservative said:Liberal pundit, Alan Colmes, was already making this story a partisan issue on his radio show last night. He made the argument that the air marshall was trigger happy and killed unnecessarily. If, however, the marshall didn't shoot the man and the guy had detonated the bomb (which he insisted he had), Alan would have insisted that airport security hasn't changed since 911 and that the administration is failing. These guys are so transparant.
One passenger said he "absolutely never heard the word 'bomb' at all" during the uproar as the Orlando-bound flight prepared to leave Miami on Wednesday.
Some passengers, including John McAlhany, said they believe Alpizar was no threat to anyone.
McAlhany, a 44-year-old construction worker who was returning home from a fishing trip in Key West, said he was sitting in Seat 21C when he noticed a commotion a few rows back.
"I heard him saying to his wife, 'I've got to get off the plane,'" McAlhany said. "He bumped me, bumped a couple of stewardesses. He just wanted to get off the plane."
Alpizar ran up the aisle into the first-class cabin, where marshals chased him onto the jetway, McAlhany said.
McAlhany said he "absolutely never heard the word 'bomb' at all."
"The first time I heard the word 'bomb' was when I was interviewed by the
FBI," McAlhany said. "They kept asking if I heard him say the B-word. And I said, 'What is the B-word?' And they were like, 'Bomb.' I said no. They said, 'Are you sure?' And I am."
Added another passenger, Mary Gardner: "I did not hear him say that he had a bomb."
Witnesses said Alpizar's wife, Anne Buechner, had frantically tried to explain he was bipolar, a mental illness also known as manic-depression, and was off his medication.
The National Alliance on Mental Illness called on the Air Marshal Service and other law enforcement agencies to train officers if they don't already in responding to people with severe mental illness.
Others said Alpizar's mental health didn't matter while marshals were trying to talk to him and determine if the threat was real.
KCConservative said:Liberal pundit, Alan Colmes, was already making this story a partisan issue on his radio show last night. He made the argument that the air marshall was trigger happy and killed unnecessarily.
KCConservative said:If, however, the marshall didn't shoot the man and the guy had detonated the bomb (which he insisted he had), Alan would have insisted that airport security hasn't changed since 911 and that the administration is failing. These guys are so transparant.
I see. So Colmes gets to state his opinion but you take issue with me stating mine. Got it. :roll:BWG said:His opinion. What makes that statement Liberal or Conservative?
Your speculation. It seems as though your the one trying to make this a partisan issue.
On the record, if the report is correct, I think the Marshalls had no other option.
:2funny: Brevity is the soul of wit my friend.cnredd said:I'm guessing "No one twice"...
KCConservative said:There's a reason we don't yell Fire in a crowded theatre and there's a reason we don't yell Bomb on an airplane. The air marshall did his job. I can hear the critics now, if the marshall hadn't shot him and the guy actually detonated a bomb. Think people.
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