FBI Said to Recover Personal E-Mails From Hillary Clinton Server

[justabubba]

As long as its not Hillary in Yoga pants...that could be aiiight.

that awful mental image cannot now be unseen
thank you very much, damn it

only hope you are reminded of it the next time you are in the sack with your woman

 

[VanceMack]

that awful mental image cannot now be unseen
thank you very much, damn it

only hope you are reminded of it the next time you are in the sack with your woman

Let me ruin you for at least the weekend.....



Unlike Hillary's web master, I know how to delete mental boot sectors and degause certain parts of memory. I can QUICKLY replace it with far better mental snapshots!

 

[MMC]

Yeah, if there are 'work related' emails that were deleted and not turned over, then she has a real problem. Outside of the obvious problem that there were emails in there that she clearly wanted no one to see. The story wont end now. Even the friendly media will be interested to know whats in there. Shes toast.

Heya Fletch. :2wave: Yeah and now the State Dept turns around and sets her out at the same time.




Meanwhile, another Hillary falsehood has been exposed, this time by the State Department, which has heretofore performed gymnastics to protect her:

Throughout the controversy over her use of a private e-mail system while she was secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton has described her decision last year to turn over thousands of work-related e-mails as a response to a routine-sounding records request. “When we were asked to help the State Department make sure they had everything from other secretaries of state, not just me, I’m the one who said, ‘Okay, great, I will go through them again,’?” Clinton said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “And we provided all of them.” But State Department officials provided new information Tuesday that undercuts Clinton’s characterization. They said the request was not simply about general record-keeping but was prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system. They also said they first contacted her in the summer of 2014, at least three months before the agency asked Clinton and three of her predecessors to provide their e-mails......snip~

Uh Oh: FBI Reportedly Recovers 'Wiped' Emails from Hillary's Private Server - Guy Benson

 

[MMC]

I doubt this will result in all that much.

Heya OS. She has a long long way to go. Emails are just the beginning.




Clinton's use of the server was allowed under State Department regulations, but there are rules governing how the server should be configured and protected so it is not vulnerable to cyberattacks.

It is still unclear which safeguards were taken to protect it. And cybersecurity experts have raised the point that if Clinton's team wasn't able to delete old emails properly, then it may not have known how to properly secure the server, either.

"Clinton's private email server was secure. Clinton's people didn't know how to delete her old emails," Christopher Soghoian, a technologist for the American Civil Liberties Union, tweeted on Wednesday. "These two things can't both be true.".....snip~

The most intriguing thing about the FBI recovering Hillary Clinton's deleted emails - Yahoo Finance

 

[Fearandloathing]

Heya Fletch. :2wave: Yeah and now the State Dept turns around and sets her out at the same time.




Meanwhile, another Hillary falsehood has been exposed, this time by the State Department, which has heretofore performed gymnastics to protect her:

Throughout the controversy over her use of a private e-mail system while she was secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton has described her decision last year to turn over thousands of work-related e-mails as a response to a routine-sounding records request. “When we were asked to help the State Department make sure they had everything from other secretaries of state, not just me, I’m the one who said, ‘Okay, great, I will go through them again,’?” Clinton said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “And we provided all of them.” But State Department officials provided new information Tuesday that undercuts Clinton’s characterization. They said the request was not simply about general record-keeping but was prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system. They also said they first contacted her in the summer of 2014, at least three months before the agency asked Clinton and three of her predecessors to provide their e-mails......snip~

Uh Oh: FBI Reportedly Recovers 'Wiped' Emails from Hillary's Private Server - Guy Benson

She appears to have built a defense on falsehoods, which are now crumbling like the proverbial house of cards. She did not keep a separate work server as claimed, did not 'voluntarily' hand them over, but had to be hounded for months, months during which "only personal" emails were deleted.

Oops, doesn't matter now whether she broke the law, Clintonesque technical acrobatics don't matter now. The last poll says 51% of women think she's lying and we have four to seven more months of her 'convenient stories' to be evaporated.

And now John Kerry's State Department is 'correcting' her lies and misdirections, Obama is not going to her summit and neither is the rest of the cabinet.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden is "exploring" [that means fund raising folks] and staying just off the radar.

I would say this is the beginning of the end for the "outside girl". She's on the outside for sure now, the White House has thrown her under a bus.

 

[cpwill]

She appears to have built a defense on falsehoods, which are now crumbling like the proverbial house of cards. She did not keep a separate work server as claimed, did not 'voluntarily' hand them over, but had to be hounded for months, months during which "only personal" emails were deleted.

Oops, doesn't matter now whether she broke the law, Clintonesque technical acrobatics don't matter now. The last poll says 51% of women think she's lying and we have four to seven more months of her 'convenient stories' to be evaporated.

And now John Kerry's State Department is 'correcting' her lies and misdirections, Obama is not going to her summit and neither is the rest of the cabinet.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden is "exploring" [that means fund raising folks] and staying just off the radar.

I would say this is the beginning of the end for the "outside girl". She's on the outside for sure now, the White House has thrown her under a bus.

Hillary Clinton didn't go down without a fight in 2008. She used every trick in the book, and wrote some new nasty ones.

Here's hoping for a repeat performance. :beer:

 

[MMC]

This, along with the State Department releases, will trickle along until Iowa at the very least. Hillary's problems keep compounding themselves, and it's not likely the Obama administration is going to be a partner in diffusing the crisis for her, nor is it likely the administration could entirely diffuse it even if they had that desire. It has legs of its own now. I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary develops health problems this winter that are political in origin.

That's Right HB. :2wave: Fournier was saying the same thing. Oh and it will go past the Primary in Iowa coming Feb.



Ron Fournier
✔ ‎@ron_fournier
State Department’s account of e-mail request differs from Clinton’s - The Washington Post … DRIP More emails surface in Hillary Clinton Benghazi probe - POLITICO … DRIP Report: The FBI Has Recovered Emails From Hillary Clinton's Server - BuzzFeed News … DRIP. Drowning in dishonesty and spin.
8:16 PM - 22 Sep 2015


Uh Oh: FBI Reportedly Recovers 'Wiped' Emails from Hillary's Private Server - Guy Benson

 

[MMC]

She appears to have built a defense on falsehoods, which are now crumbling like the proverbial house of cards. She did not keep a separate work server as claimed, did not 'voluntarily' hand them over, but had to be hounded for months, months during which "only personal" emails were deleted.

Oops, doesn't matter now whether she broke the law, Clintonesque technical acrobatics don't matter now. The last poll says 51% of women think she's lying and we have four to seven more months of her 'convenient stories' to be evaporated.

And now John Kerry's State Department is 'correcting' her lies and misdirections, Obama is not going to her summit and neither is the rest of the cabinet.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden is "exploring" [that means fund raising folks] and staying just off the radar.

I would say this is the beginning of the end for the "outside girl". She's on the outside for sure now, the White House has thrown her under a bus.

Soon she will be singing that song by the Who. Inside outside, leave me alone. Inside outside, nowhere is home. :lol:




Hillary Clinton lies. We're up to -- what -- nine or ten provable, verifiable untruths about the email scandal alone now? Mrs. Clinton has an image problem, an ethics problem, and quite possibly a legal problem. And a major political problem.

When confronted with this discrepancy, the flailing Democratic frontrunner offered…nothing:


Chris Cillizza ✔ ‎@TheFix
"I don't know that. I can't answer that." -- Hillary Clinton responding to new WaPo report on her emails. Clinton disputes report of new email discrepancy
8:02 PM - 22 Sep 2015.....snip~

Uh Oh: FBI Reportedly Recovers 'Wiped' Emails from Hillary's Private Server - Guy Benson

 

[justabubba]

Hillary Clinton didn't go down without a fight in 2008. She used every trick in the book, and wrote some new nasty ones.

Here's hoping for a repeat performance. :beer:

and the RNC would be wise to help her out
she has become the weakest of the biden/Bernie/hillary palette of options
you folks should want her to become the name on the demo ticket
the ability to campaign against her is now massive - and increasing
while little negative material could be found on biden and nothing appears on the horizon against Bernie

as a team Bernie member, i hope the RNC will help take her out of contention
but that is actually detrimental to the republican aspiration to attain the white house

 

[Fletch]

and the RNC would be wise to help her out
she has become the weakest of the biden/Bernie/hillary palette of options
you folks should want her to become the name on the demo ticket
the ability to campaign against her is now massive - and increasing
while little negative material could be found on biden and nothing appears on the horizon against Bernie

as a team Bernie member, i hope the RNC will help take her out of contention
but that is actually detrimental to the republican aspiration to attain the white house

I agree with you. I thought Hillary was beatable before this scandal and don't think she has a prayer now. The best thing that could happen to the republican field is for her to win the nomination. But I don't think that is going to happen. Bernie, while I agree with him on nothing, comes across as an honest guy who says what he really believes. I admire that if for no other reason than its rarity. Biden strikes me as an all around good guy. I don't agree with him much either, but he proved in the debate against Ryan that he isn't the buffoon he often appears, nor is he divisive. He would be tough to beat. Hillary would not.

 

[Fearandloathing]

and the RNC would be wise to help her out
she has become the weakest of the biden/Bernie/hillary palette of options
you folks should want her to become the name on the demo ticket
the ability to campaign against her is now massive - and increasing
while little negative material could be found on biden and nothing appears on the horizon against Bernie

as a team Bernie member, i hope the RNC will help take her out of contention
but that is actually detrimental to the republican aspiration to attain the white house

Surprised to hear you say she's a liability, but you are correct.

I mentioned some time ago in a thread about Gowdie that the Republicans need be careful not to bring her down too soon, for the very reason a known opponent is better than an unknown one.

As has been pointed out, she has risen from ash heaps before, it would astonish me at this point, since she has lost the "anointed" status in the media. Were it me planning a campaign, I would be hoping she recovers just enough to win the nomination.....

 

[Fearandloathing]

I agree with you. I thought Hillary was beatable before this scandal and don't think she has a prayer now. The best thing that could happen to the republican field is for her to win the nomination. But I don't think that is going to happen. Bernie, while I agree with him on nothing, comes across as an honest guy who says what he really believes. I admire that if for no other reason than its rarity. Biden strikes me as an all around good guy. I don't agree with him much either, but he proved in the debate against Ryan that he isn't the buffoon he often appears, nor is he divisive. He would be tough to beat. Hillary would not.

Were I a Republican I would be hoping Bernie wins it.

With Hilary gone he's the weak link, easy to differentiate. Depending on who wins the other race, Bernie will have a hard time defining issues. I suspect Biden will emerge at the perfect time, appear to be "drafted" because of the anemic campaigns.....then you have a real race and you know who will be using Air Force One to help him out at every turn.

 

[Chomsky]

I agree with you. I thought Hillary was beatable before this scandal and don't think she has a prayer now. The best thing that could happen to the republican field is for her to win the nomination. But I don't think that is going to happen. Bernie, while I agree with him on nothing, comes across as an honest guy who says what he really believes. I admire that if for no other reason than its rarity. Biden strikes me as an all around good guy. I don't agree with him much either, but he proved in the debate against Ryan that he isn't the buffoon he often appears, nor is he divisive. He would be tough to beat. Hillary would not.

I think your assessment is 100% on!

Biden will rise and I believe will be smart to pick Sen Warren if he can get her, and then with the President's help, will have all the major factions of the Dem Party between them. Besides the obvious Sen Warren requirement to pick-up the Sen Sander's crowd, the Vice President will need the President to pick-up the black vote. The VP himself will scoop-up the Hillary crowd, and he can even tack a bit more moderate to get the working class more conservative Dems & Indies, including the Catholics & older working class blue-collar demos.

Sen Warren can go nuts in her own venues appealing to & appeasing the hard left Bernie crowd, while VP Biden in his venues plays the more conservative sensible moderate Presidential-like candidate. All the while President Obama goes to his venues courting the black vote and 'continuing the fight'.

This would provide the Dems with the possibility of 'three superstars' criss-crossing the country, appealing to very specific demographics and political subsets.

And it could strongly unite & solidify the Dem Party, presenting a formidable challenge to the GOP. As was seen in the recent mid-terms, elections are won on turn-out - and Biden/Warren/Obama could produce substantial Dem turnout. Quite honestly, it strikes me as a 'dream ticket' for the Dems.

And after pounding Mrs Clinton for a year or two, they now would have to re-gear for VP Biden. If I were the GOP, I'd most concerned about this ticket, above all.

If Warren goes along ...

 

[Fearandloathing]

I think your assessment is 100% on!

Biden will rise and I believe will be smart to pick Sen Warren if he can get her, and then with the President's help, will have all the major factions of the Dem Party between them. Besides the obvious Sen Warren requirement to pick-up the Sen Sander's crowd, the Vice President will need the President to pick-up the black vote. The VP himself will scoop-up the Hillary crowd, and he can even tack a bit more moderate to get the working class more conservative Dems & Indies, including the Catholics & older working class blue-collar demos.

Sen Warren can go nuts in her own venues appealing to & appeasing the hard left Bernie crowd, while VP Biden in his venues plays the more conservative sensible moderate Presidential-like candidate. All the while President Obama goes to his venues courting the black vote and 'continuing the fight'.

This could strongly unite & solidify the Dem Party, presenting a formidable challenge to the GOP. As was seen in the recent mid-terms, elections are won on turn-out - and Biden/Warren/Obama could produce substantial Dem turnout. Quite honestly, it strikes me as a 'dream ticket' for the Dems.

And after pounding Mrs Clinton for a year or two, they now would have to re-gear for VP Biden. If I were the GOP, I'd most concerned about this ticket, above all.

If Warren goes along ...

The black vote is questionable, Obama is not as popular as he once was. Warren would be good, but a black woman would be better.

Were me, I would be re-gearing to take on Biden because he will be formidable. What will work for them is a fear vote, 'vote for me to keep XXXX out'.

 

[justabubba]

Surprised to hear you say she's a liability, but you are correct.

I mentioned some time ago in a thread about Gowdie that the Republicans need be careful not to bring her down too soon, for the very reason a known opponent is better than an unknown one.

As has been pointed out, she has risen from ash heaps before, it would astonish me at this point, since she has lost the "anointed" status in the media. Were it me planning a campaign, I would be hoping she recovers just enough to win the nomination.....

well, gowdy is a dim bulb
even with all of the material against her, that dumb ass will not be able to make a case


i see Elizabeth Warren as the heroine to step up and accept the nomination for the good of the party
she would be unbeatable

 

[QuadpolarNutjob]

I was wondering when/if this was going to happen. It takes a lot to actually delete something from any type of computer and it still be useable. It can be done, but frankly I don't see Hillary or her aides being smart enough to do it properly.

money can buy smart people. i'd be surprised if they find anything incriminating. even more surprised if they prosecute. stabby stab myself surprised if they convict. backflip off a bridge surprised if the punishment includes more than 3 seconds of prison time.

 

[Chomsky]

The black vote is questionable, Obama is not as popular as he once was. Warren would be good, but a black woman would be better.

Were me, I would be re-gearing to take on Biden because he will be formidable. What will work for them is a fear vote, 'vote for me to keep XXXX out'.

Interesting thought on a black women, though I'm not sure who would fit the bill.

You're right about the President's sagging popularity, but my gut feeling is he can still excite (incite?) the black vote substantially. I was in a Hyde Park bar earlier this week a few blocks from his house, and the interracial crowd in this place was still widely crazy about him. Now granted, this was his neighborhood and a very upscale well educate (near U of C) crowd, but still.

 

[Chomsky]

well, gowdy is a dim bulb
even with all of the material against her, that dumb ass will not be able to make a case


i see Elizabeth Warren as the heroine to step up and accept the nomination for the good of the party
she would be unbeatable

*bolded for relevance.

I really don't think she can come up with an infrastructure quickly enough, or more accurately "quicker and better than the VP", but yours is an interesting thought because I never considered her as more than a VP candidate.

If Secy Clinton were to acquiesce I suppose it could be possible, but I severely doubt she would ever actively run against her in the primary. I think doing so would alienate Hillary's older female base, which is substantial. This is the same demo were some claimed to have never voted for President Obama due to his treatment of Mrs. Clinton during the '08 primary, and they've been 'with her' ever since she was First Lady.

 

[Fearandloathing]

*bolded for relevance.

I really don't think she can come up with an infrastructure quickly enough, or more accurately "quicker and better than the VP", but yours is an interesting thought because I never considered her as more than a VP candidate.

If Secy Clinton were to acquiesce I suppose it could be possible, but I severely doubt she would ever actively run against her in the primary. I think doing so would alienate Hillary's older female base, which is substantial. This is the same demo were some claimed to have never voted for President Obama due to his treatment of Mrs. Clinton during the '08 primary, and they've been 'with her' ever since she was First Lady.

When Warren declared she was NOT running earlier this year I read a piece about that very thing in the National Post. Along with noting that the Clintons were as nasty as Obama, and worse at times, the writer [from Boston I think] stated Warren bowed out, in part, because of a concern of dividing the party. It was also noted that as an academic she has little stomach for the gutter. Her lack of experience was also a factor

Despite everything, Hilary has a very large a loyal base who have been with her since the early days in the White House, not significant enough to get her elected, but enough to play havoc. I agree, I don't think Warren would enter the campaign until after Hilary was out of the race.

And she is not 'unbeatable', she's only ever won one election in 2012 against a very weak opponent.

 

[NonoBadDog]

From what I read, the State Dept had to go after her 2 predecessors for emails as well.

Kinda sorta. They asked for the records of the other former Sec States 3 months after they asked for Clinton's.

“When we were asked to help the State Department make sure they had everything from other secretaries of state, not just me, I’m the one who said, ‘Okay, great, I will go through them again,’ ” Clinton said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “And we provided all of them.”

But State Department officials provided new information Tuesday that undercuts Clinton’s characterization. They said the request was not simply about general rec*ord-keeping but was prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system. They also said they first contacted her in the summer of 2014, at least three months before the agency asked Clinton and three of her predecessors to provide their e-mails.

State Department’s account of e-mail request differs from Clinton’s - The Washington Post

 

[NonoBadDog]

Surprised to hear you say she's a liability, but you are correct.

I mentioned some time ago in a thread about Gowdie that the Republicans need be careful not to bring her down too soon, for the very reason a known opponent is better than an unknown one.

As has been pointed out, she has risen from ash heaps before, it would astonish me at this point, since she has lost the "anointed" status in the media. Were it me planning a campaign, I would be hoping she recovers just enough to win the nomination.....

People tend to forget what isn't in their face constantly reminding them.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...-offers-hillary-clinton-some-comforting-news/

 

[NonoBadDog]

well, gowdy is a dim bulb
even with all of the material against her, that dumb ass will not be able to make a case


i see Elizabeth Warren as the heroine to step up and accept the nomination for the good of the party
she would be unbeatable

There is a reason Warren hasn't stepped up. I haven't any clue as to what it could be. I have some ideas but they aren't things she couldn't work around. Maybe she knows something about Biden that we don't.

 

[NonoBadDog]

*bolded for relevance.

I really don't think she can come up with an infrastructure quickly enough, or more accurately "quicker and better than the VP", but yours is an interesting thought because I never considered her as more than a VP candidate.

If Secy Clinton were to acquiesce I suppose it could be possible, but I severely doubt she would ever actively run against her in the primary. I think doing so would alienate Hillary's older female base, which is substantial. This is the same demo were some claimed to have never voted for President Obama due to his treatment of Mrs. Clinton during the '08 primary, and they've been 'with her' ever since she was First Lady.

Exactly what I have been thinking.

 

[NonoBadDog]

well, gowdy is a dim bulb
even with all of the material against her, that dumb ass will not be able to make a case


i see Elizabeth Warren as the heroine to step up and accept the nomination for the good of the party
she would be unbeatable

Gowdy is smarter than you give him credit. He hasn't made near the mistakes that Issa did. I can't see that he has made any. He is keeping the depositions and investigation details close to the vest.

 

[JANFU]

Kinda sorta. They asked for the records of the other former Sec States 3 months after they asked for Clinton's.



State Department’s account of e-mail request differs from Clinton’s - The Washington Post

Did not read to see if the OP had the same information as this.

Just when you thought the e-mail story couldn’t get worse for Hillary Clinton … - The Washington Post

Time after time, the story Clinton has tried to tell has been contradicted — in ways large and small — by reporting about the e-mail server. She hasn't been able to put the story behind her because the story keeps evolving.

Clinton is breaking the first rule of crisis communications: Get EVERYTHING out all at once, take the hit and move on. Her approach, which is to give ground on the story only when her position becomes untenable, has already turned what looked like a coronation for the Democratic nomination into a potentially competitive race. It now threatens to do even more damage.

She only fesses up when caught time after time. Her campaign management has been atrocious to say the least