FBI releases noose pic

[countryboy]

Um...ok, so at first I was wondering "how can crew member on a car team mistake a door pull for a noose?" Now, even if current events were not what they were, it would make perfect sense to read that exactly as it was initially read.





That's a ****ing noose, even if it was used as a door pull, in the same way that this is a sledgehammer...

....even if I'm using it as a door stop.

Lol, except that it's connected to a garage door. I made a noose for my evil scarecrow costume last Halloween. Does that make be a racist?

 

[Binary_Digit]

So, some racist good ol' boys put up a hangman's noose for a laugh before Bubba started using that stall. Way to go, NASCAR.

I read somewhere that the stalls are used by different drivers at different times. But do you know how far in advance they assign drivers to the stalls, and whether or not that info would be available to anyone who could be a suspect? That seems like a key thing to me. For now I've been assuming that nobody could have known back then which stall Bubba was going to have several months later, so this seemed like such a random thing as to likely not be racially motivated at all. But if someone could have found out Bubba's stall assignment in advance, based on a publicly released schedule or something, then that changes the context a little bit.

 

[Grim17]

Here is the bigger disappointment.

This...

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is clearly not that

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I decided to do a little comparison...

1. I cropped the rope out from pic #1.
2. I reduced it to 5% of it's original size, keeping it's original aspect ratio.
3. Adjusted the hue and brightness to better match the color variance.
4. Added a touch of blur to match pic #2.
5. Superimposed the isolated rope on to pic #3.

This is what you get....




I'm sorry, but that looks like the same rope to me.

I gave you the exact process I used to create the comparison just in case you or anyone else doubts me, and cares to repeat the comparison themselves.

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[Deuce]

I read somewhere that the stalls are used by different drivers at different times. But do you know how far in advance they assign drivers to the stalls, and whether or not that info would be available to anyone who could be a suspect? That seems like a key thing to me. For now I've been assuming that nobody could have known back then which stall Bubba was going to have several months later, so this seemed like such a random thing as to likely not be racially motivated at all. But if someone could have found out Bubba's stall assignment in advance, based on a publicly released schedule or something, then that changes the context a little bit.

Yeah, I'm saying they just did this on their own and it wasn't specifically about Bubba.

 

[VanceMack]

I decided to do a little comparison...

1. I cropped the rope out from pic #1.
2. I reduced it to 5% of it's original size, keeping it's original aspect ratio.
3. Adjusted the hue and brightness to better match the color variance.
4. Added a touch of blur to match pic #2.
5. Superimposed the isolated rope on to pic #3.

This is what you get....

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I'm sorry, but that looks like the same rope to me.

I gave you the exact process I used to create the comparison just in case you or anyone else doubts me, and cares to repeat the comparison themselves.

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You already dedicated more time to it than I care to. Im still trying to figure out if this is on Sunday, race day and the track is rained out, where all the cars are and why is Ryan Preece's hauler parked in the middle if Big Bills garage area on Sunday.

 

[VanceMack]

You are probably looking at doctored photos, from shady sources.


The FBI says this is the noose and it's been in place for months. Maybe even years.

Actually Im looking at THIS photo...and a bunch of empty car stalls on a rained out race day.

 

[jet57]

That's definitely a hangman's noose. Somebody probably tied it as a joke.



NASCAR releases photo of '''noose''' found in Bubba Wallace'''s garage | Fox News

Well Wallace never saw it. A crew member reported it and NASCAR told Wallace.

 

[Grim17]

You already dedicated more time to it than I care to. Im still trying to figure out if this is on Sunday, race day and the track is rained out, where all the cars are and why is Ryan Preece's hauler parked in the middle if Big Bills garage area on Sunday.

Well, just a theory, but on Sunday I believe the cars were on pit lane and when rain comes as it did that day, they cover them with tarp there and don't move them back into the garage area unless/until the race is officially postponed. That pic might have been during the delay, before the race had been postponed. The race was schedule for 3PM and they didn't postpone it until 3+ hours later and it looks like it's late afternoon when that pic was taken.

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[Chillfolks]

If a noose is sent to, or directed toward a specific individual or group, then it is considered a threatening gesture. If that individual or group happens to be black or predominantly black, then you can definitely assign a racist motive to it. Otherwise it's nothing more than a knot and has no alternative meaning.

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That well thought out and reasoned response has no place in this thread. Either the noose was a racist act or it waa all just a hoax for attention. Those seem to be the only two acceptable positions to take.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Give the race card a rest... You people have lost your collective minds.

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Nooses are racist... My ass.

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Your ass is racist?

 

[Manc Skipper]

You already dedicated more time to it than I care to. Im still trying to figure out if this is on Sunday, race day and the track is rained out, where all the cars are and why is Ryan Preece's hauler parked in the middle if Big Bills garage area on Sunday.

The noose was hung on the wall when it was discovered, It wasn't hanging by/from the door as it appears in the Nascar pic.

 

[VanceMack]

Well, just a theory, but on Sunday I believe the cars were on pit lane and when rain comes as it did that day, they cover them with tarp there and don't move them back into the garage area unless/until the race is officially postponed. That pic might have been during the delay, before the race had been postponed. The race was schedule for 3PM and they didn't postpone it until 3+ hours later and it looks like it's late afternoon when that pic was taken.

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Doesnt explain the hauler nor the lack of equipment in the garage. But...I'm pretty much done with this. At the end of the day, its a non-issue. No one threatened anyone...lets go racin, boys.

 

[Aurora]

The article begins:

NASCAR has released the first official image of the garage door pull-rope fashioned into a noose-style knot that was found in Bubba Wallace’s garage at Talladega Superspeedway on Sunday and said that an internal investigation determined it was the only one present at any of the 29 tracks it visits.

NASCAR President Steve Phelps said this photo of the 'noose' was taken by NASCAR security. (NASCAR)

The discovery led to an FBI hate crime probe that determined it had been there since at least last October and was not directed at Wallace. The Richard Petty Motorsports driver has been a vocal supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and was instrumental in NASCAR’s recent decision to ban the Confederate flag at its events.


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NASCAR releases photo of '''noose''' found in Bubba Wallace'''s garage | Fox News


Is it really so important to Trumpism to lie about this? Yes, that image IS of the claimed "door pull" found in his garage, the one that lead to the investigation. Who cares if it was there since 10/19? Why the **** is that being used for a door pull? That is a literal hangman's knot, aka, a noose.

Hangman's knot - Wikipedia

The rope is not directed at anyone. Who is the victim? Hanging was a legal method of execution for a very long time . A lot of white people were hanged by it. Was that racial? The race obsessed see race in everything. Get a life. Your insecurities are your own. The current race industry is out of control. The rope and noose were used on other doors. Has anyone complained prior to this? Apparently not.

 

[Grim17]

The noose was hung on the wall when it was discovered, It wasn't hanging by/from the door as it appears in the Nascar pic.

Here's NASCAR's statement:

"The FBI has completed its investigation at Talladega Superspeedway and determined that Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime. The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall. This was obviously well before the 43 team’s arrival and garage assignment.​

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[Casca XV]

False. We know the race when it appeared. I don't remember the name, but sometime in Oct 2019 iirc. We have two problems here:

1. It's racist.

2. No one reported it until now.

Both of those things are a problem.

Nooses are Racist? According to the NAACP 28% of KKK lynching victims were White Republicans.

 

[Deuce]

Nooses are Racist? According to the NAACP 28% of KKK lynching victims were White Republicans.

And??

 

[Drawdown]

A hangmans noose will pull tight. To close a door why would you want the loop to be tightened up?

Not if done right. I will only pull tight if you pull on the noose and the line at the same time.

Anyway from the looks of it my guess is that someone tied it up that way to keep the excess length of rope from being on the ground or getting up under the door when it was closed. and nobody ever thought to change it. The one at my old work we just tied some knots in and cut off the excess rope.

 

[shellgame]

Where they get their numbers I don't know, but here are some of the available facts on lynching in the USA.

In 1862 President Abraham Lincoln sanctioned the hanging of 39 Sioux Indians convicted of murdering white settlers in Mankato, Minnesota.[12] This mass execution remains the largest of its kind in United States history.[11]

The Wild West
As the United States began to expand west, most new states favored the death penalty, and hanging continued to be the most popular means of execution. In addition, disregarding the trend set by many northern states, these states would hang criminals for offenses like robbery and rape. Because of the abundant lawlessness and crime in the Wild West, judges were strict, and hangings were commonplace.[13] If a judge was particularly ruthless, he became known as a hanging judge. Isaac Parker, perhaps the best-known hanging judge, sentenced 160 men to death by hanging. However, of those 160, only 79 were actually executed. The remaining 81 either appealed, died in jail, or were pardoned. Though at the time, these judges were criticized for issuing so many death sentences, a few modern scholars maintain that most of the judges were honorable men trying to establish law and order in the wild American frontier.[13]

After the American Civil War, the frontier opened up, and law lagged behind, with an undetermined number of local criminals suffering Lynching, or extrajudicial hanging. In the South, tensions arising from Reconstruction led to several lynchings. Scholars estimate that 4,742 total people, mostly male, were lynched from 1882 to 1968. About 3,445 of those individuals were African American and 1,297 were white.[14]

 

[Casca XV]

And??

Well, Lynching is not really US History it's Democrat Party History as a Republican should I not also be frightened by the sight of a Noose?

 

[Kurmugeon]

Well the rope is white.
LAFFRIOT!!!

Milk, Salt, Chalk, Asprin, and Soap are White! Ban them! Immediately!

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[Kurmugeon]

No More Milk!

No More Asprin!

No More vile Soap!

EVARRRRRR!!!!

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