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MAR DEL PLATA, Argentina (AP) -- Thousands of protesters chanting "Get out Bush!" swarmed the streets of this Argentine resort on Friday.
Before dawn, thousands greeted a train bringing the last group of demonstrators from Buenos Aires, including Bolivian presidential hopeful Evo Morales and soccer great Diego Maradona, who donned a T-shirt accusing President Bush of war crimes.
Chanting "Fascist Bush! You are the terrorist!" the protesters hung from the engine and moved up the sides of the train, trying to shake hands with those inside.
hiker said:Comments...let's see...how about, since you guys love us so much, how about we just cut all financial and military support for Central and South America. Then you can show how much you really love us when you're on your own.
It has been ever thus, a continent reliant upon it's big brother for support, both militarily and financially. And with the creation of CAFTA, we take another step in the direction begun lo those many years ago. The ingratitude of the natives is overwhelming. We do these things to protect them and build their economies: a rising tide lifts all ships. And yet, we are still hated. Too bad. Yet, we shall persevere, doing what we have pledged to do, without any thank-yous. Maybe one day, things will change. I'm not holding my breath.Later in 1903, Roosevelt’s famous Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine was enacted. In response to the German’s aggressive action against Venezuelan ships and a city, Teddy initiated his policy of “preventive intervention”. His policy stated that America would handle future financial hardships, thereby preventing the European countries to intervene. This policy really gave America sole control over Latin America-now they were the only one’s who could be the bully.
hiker said:http://www.genconnection.com/ushistory/chp28.htm
It has been ever thus, a continent reliant upon it's big brother for support, both militarily and financially. And with the creation of CAFTA, we take another step in the direction begun lo those many years ago. The ingratitude of the natives is overwhelming. We do these things to protect them and build their economies: a rising tide lifts all ships. And yet, we are still hated. Too bad. Yet, we shall persevere, doing what we have pledged to do, without any thank-yous. Maybe one day, things will change. I'm not holding my breath.
And two years later, they'll be in complete shambles and beggin' for us back...which we would...at a MUCH heftier price...hipsterdufus said:I think if you put it to a vote, South and Central America would have us out of there in an instant.
cnredd said:And two years later, they'll be in complete shambles and beggin' for us back...which we would...at a MUCH heftier price...
hiker said:http://www.genconnection.com/ushistory/chp28.htm
It has been ever thus, a continent reliant upon it's big brother for support, both militarily and financially. And with the creation of CAFTA, we take another step in the direction begun lo those many years ago. The ingratitude of the natives is overwhelming. We do these things to protect them and build their economies: a rising tide lifts all ships. And yet, we are still hated. Too bad. Yet, we shall persevere, doing what we have pledged to do, without any thank-yous. Maybe one day, things will change. I'm not holding my breath.
And when since has America been running a popularity race!
hipsterdufus said:That's pure conjecture. The democratization of Latin America isn't working any more than it will work in Iraq. Global hegemony - that's the course we're on, and for that the US government is despised by the people af Latin America.
I think we should take a closer look at the governments we are supporting in Central America. Particularly our excersions in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Central America, where we backed dictators and terrorists because of their support of US economic interests. At the very least it seems very immoral to me.
cnredd said:And two years later, they'll be in complete shambles and beggin' for us back...which we would...at a MUCH heftier price...
Archon said:That's okay... we could just hire all the privateers like halli-burton to clean it all up for us!? Right?
It's funny to me that the Bush Adminstration's most impressive foreign policy has been to leave places in shambles by involvement..... not by "pulling out". George Bush is fuel to the fire of rebellion and dissent. If you look at our planet objectively it is crystal clear. Lucid even.
So we care about the world so much? Then why don't we LISTEN to them?
stsburns said:hipsterdufus
You are aware fascist means loyalty right? :2wave: And when since has America been running a popularity race!
TurtleDude said:some people-probably those with a bit more education and objectivity would note the elections in Iraq or Quaddaffi renouncing Libya's WMD program
Archon said:I'm sorry? Did you have anything relevant to say? My comments were relatively general and specific (objective) while yours are quite off-topic, imperious, and nimble (subjective).
Now, you were saying, about objectivity and education?
TurtleDude said:IF you can remember your post you commented on Bush's greatest FP involved leaving places in shambles. I think that is inaccurate and non-objective
please keep up
Archon said:This post is specifically about Bush and his Foreign Policy, dingleberry.
Perhaps you could make a case in which anything Bush has done has helped politics or ANYTHING abroad?
By the way, the words "impressive" and "greatest" have two separate and quite indifferent meanings. I would expect someone so highly educated could understand such a simple virtue of the english language.
TurtleDude said:For a new kid you sure are trying hard to look foolish
ABROAD-lets see LIBYA COUNTS Last I checked
Archon said:Who said anything about Libya? Talk about subjective. I say Abroad. You say "libya". No elaboration. No explanation. All you say is:
Libya.
Wow. You got me there buddy. You're a bright one.
Originally Posted by TurtleDude:
IF you can remember your post you commented on Bush's greatest FP involved leaving places in shambles. I think that is inaccurate and non-objective
please keep up
TurtleDude said:I am bright enough to realize you are making an ass of yourself
I mentioned Libya ceasing its WMD as perhaps Bush's most important FP action and you don't understand the point
here was my first post in response to your claim that [Bush Adminstration's most impressive foreign policy has been to leave places in shambles by involvement]
some people-probably those with a bit more education and objectivity would note the elections in Iraq or Quaddaffi renouncing Libya's WMD program
I guess you just forgot about that:roll:
Billo_Really said:You don't consider this "a shambles?"
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Archon said:You didn't mention Libya ceasing "anything". All you said was "Libya".
Israel has WMD. Why don't we attack them. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, India, China, Japan, Australia, Russia, Germany, Italy, France, etc etc etc etc have WMD. SO what's your point? We have WMD. Should we attack ourselves?
Forgot about what? You never said anything substantiative in the first place. There is nothing to forget. It seems to me that you fear even elaborting your own opinion. Stop hiding behind words, stop attacking me personally, and start explaining yourself.
Your pretty cavalier regarding the misery, death and destruction of others.Originally Posted by TurtleDude:
NO, Did you see what Dresden or Tokyo looked like before we were finished at those two places?
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