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Strawman. I surely make that statement and what we have now is CERTAINLY not unopposed capitalism.

Obama wants more of a move towards the other side (culturally and economically) which is the side of proven fail.

Except that Obama still doesn't aim for economic equality, there is no "beating around the bush", and you don't have anything but pure speculation.
 
Of course you don't.

I figured if you were going to start puking up nonsense and attempting to tell me what I advocate, I would toss some more nonsense out there as well.

The phrase "more socialism," which you used, is utterly meaningless. Make an intellectually honest argument sometime.

Scatt doesn't make intellectual anything, let alone anything that resembles an argument.
 
That's quite broad indeed. You're just repeating his talking point! He's not really saying anything different.
Every politicians I know have that very same broad vision - in their talking point - though they're worded differently.

What's his plan exactly how to get to "foster prosperity in a mixed economy?" What are his progressive-leaning policies exactly? This is his last term, so surely there must've been already something in place. Yes ignorant indeed about his achievements, since all I hear lately in political talk shows - and commentaries - are mostly all about his no-plan plans. :lol:



Thus Spake Obama | National Review Online

The current uproar about Obama's executive actions is an uproar insisting that Obama can't do anything without Congress. Since that is true, I don't think he has accomplished things the way he would like. But, I think we all are aware of the things he has attempted to push Congress to do. For example: A higher minimum wage. A more progressive tax structure. Targeted regulation of specific businesses, such as banks.

There is nothing in this set of policies that shows any intention to aim toward "economic equality". More equal, sure, not fully equal. I disagree that he wants full equality as some hidden agenda. I believe this because I agree with his current proposals and I am for more equality and am absolutely against full equality. It is pure speculation what his supposed hidden agenda might be.
 
Except that Obama still doesn't aim for economic equality, there is no "beating around the bush", and you don't have anything but pure speculation.

Talk to someone who grew up in a communist nation-Obama's bs is straight out of the neo-marxist handbook.
 
The current uproar about Obama's executive actions is an uproar insisting that Obama can't do anything without Congress. Since that is true, I don't think he has accomplished things the way he would like. But, I think we all are aware of the things he has attempted to push Congress to do. For example: A higher minimum wage. A more progressive tax structure. Targeted regulation of specific businesses, such as banks.

There is nothing in this set of policies that shows any intention to aim toward "economic equality". More equal, sure, not fully equal. I disagree that he wants full equality as some hidden agenda. I believe this because I agree with his current proposals and I am for more equality and am absolutely against full equality. It is pure speculation what his supposed hidden agenda might be.

He's a Commie.

Obama’s Communist Mentor
Obama’s Communist Mentor
 
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What you actually mean is youd LIKE it to be pure fantasy. But thats just not going to happen.

President Obama's Marxist-Leninist Economics: Fact And Fiction - Forbes

All that article shows is that Obama likes more specific progressive policies than his republican counterparts, and then attempts to cast those policies as "steps to Marxism". But, with no basis whatsoever to make the claim that Obama wants to take any additional so called steps. In that line of "reasoning", an extreme Libertarian could cast any Republican as a Marxist.

Yeah, so maybe Obama is a Marxist, but in that case so is nearly every Republican in Washington. So who cares.
 
All that article shows is that Obama likes more specific progressive policies than his republican counterparts, and then attempts to cast those policies as "steps to Marxism". But, with no basis whatsoever to make the claim that Obama wants to take any additional so called steps. In that line of "reasoning", an extreme Libertarian could cast any Republican as a Marxist.

Yeah, so maybe Obama is a Marxist, but in that case so is nearly every Republican in Washington. So who cares.

Communism/socialism isn't overt these days, especially in most mainstream candidates-as marxism has been widely discredited. So the left has again shifted form-this time into cultural marxism-or neo marxism.

Class struggle. Identity politics. Community organizing-thats what this IS.

Frankfurt School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Neo-Marxism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Identity politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Note that all of these techniques are used under the guise of "help" with the intent of marginalizing cohesion and maximising the chance for "revolution". They couldnt do it economically, and they can't do it overtly-so they do it in this manner.

Nothing you know is real, you are a pawn, programmed to think what you do-and your ultimate enemy is capitalism.
 
What part of "Mentor" do you have problem understanding?

Unless you have evidence he was mentoring him to become a communist, then.... What part if logical fallacy do you not understand?
 
Unless you have evidence he was mentoring him to become a communist, then.... What part if logical fallacy do you not understand?

I may be mistaken but didn't obama call him his mentor in his book?
 
Communism/socialism isn't overt these days, especially in most mainstream candidates-as marxism has been widely discredited. So the left has again shifted form-this time into cultural marxism-or neo marxism.

...ultimate enemy is capitalism.

Obama has been President for 6 years with two left. What has he done:

rescued the private banks.
rescued the private automakers
repaired the private economy
required folks to have private insurance
and kept most of Bushes tax cuts in place

if only he had been elected with a R after his name, conservatives would be calling for his place on mount Rushmore.
 
I may be mistaken but didn't obama call him his mentor in his book?

I repeat, unless you have evidence that he was mentoring him to become a communist, then guilt by association is absurd. Obama may have looked up to him and respected him without taking all of the same viewpoints. And you simply don't know which ones he took up. I agree with Obama's stated policy aims and I don't agree with communism at all. Well, that isn't quite true. If communism would work for creating general prosperity instead of making nearly everyone poor, I would be for it as the best possible system. But of course it does just make people poor, so there you go. I imagine Obama feels quite the same, but my thoughts about that are equally speculation to yours.
 
Obama has been President for 6 years with two left. What has he done:

rescued the private banks.
rescued the private automakers
repaired the private economy
required folks to have private insurance
and kept most of Bushes tax cuts in place

if only he had been elected with a R after his name, conservatives would be calling for his place on mount Rushmore.

Silly revisionist and selective propaganda.

Lets stop pretending.
 
MENTOR.

Mentor: an experienced and trusted adviser.

AGAIN, unless you have proof that he advised Obama on political philosophy, and that Obama agreed with him, all you have is the logical fallacy of guilt by association. That is really a stupid error to be making.

And AGAIN, I am very much against communist policy, and yet I agree with Obama's stated policy aims, so I have no concern that Obama's policies will lead to communism. It is such a pathetically ignorant notion, people should be embarrassed to speak it.
 
AGAIN, unless you have proof that he advised Obama on political philosophy, and that Obama agreed with him, all you have is the logical fallacy of guilt by association. That is really a stupid error to be making.

And AGAIN, I am very much against communist policy, and yet I agree with Obama's stated policy aims, so I have no concern that Obama's policies will lead to communism. It is such a pathetically ignorant notion, people should be embarrassed to speak it.

Obama called him his mentor. Are you calling Obama a liar?
 
He's a Commie.

Obama’s Communist Mentor
Obama’s Communist Mentor

This is hilarious.

You say this guy is a communist because Joe McCarthy said he was. Even more hilarious is how the article says that "leftists have successfully smeared McCarthy".

What color is the sky in your world?
 
Obama has been President for 6 years with
two left. What has he done:

rescued the private banks.
rescued the private automakers
repaired the private economy
required folks to have private insurance
and kept most of Bushes tax cuts in place

if only he had been elected with a R after his name, conservatives would be calling for his place on mount Rushmore.


He's raised taxes on " the rich " ( dividends and Capital Gains ) .....even Clinton had the good sense to lower capital gains taxes.

He's pushed made up left wing narratives like " Income Disparity " as a legitimate economic solution.

He's covered for his corrupt appointees ( Holder and Hillary ) and he's forced more Government control onto the American people.

" FORCING " Americans to buy Health Insurance in a stagnant economy with near record low participation rates isn't a Conservative principle.

How is he going to convince millions of young healthy UNEMPLOYED Americans to buy health insurance ?

Hes covering for the Democrats in Bush's and Clintons terms by refusing to comply with Freedom of Information Request for documents that pertain to the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The request was made by Judicial Watch.

The only reason banks and Corporations are being " bailed out " is the desperate last attempt to increase economic growth via unprecedented monetary policy as oir Central Bank loads up their balance sheets with worthless bundles of Fannie and Freddies debt.

God knows they're not making any money through the economy.

He's so married to bankrupt ideology that he refuses to compromise and institue policies that actually lead to growth and not more debt and dependency. Instead hes commited to a Keynesian solution in a vacuum.

God knows he's not implementing supply side solutions.

His intimidation via the IRS on Conservative Americans and his administrations attempt to explain away the terrorist attack on the Benghazi Embassy by claiming it was a "protest" would make any left wing Banana Republic dictator proud.

Honestly I dont see how you could qualify him as anything but a Liberal.

Look how unsuccesful his policies are.
 
He's raised taxes on " the rich " ( dividends and Capital Gains ) .....even Clinton had the good sense to lower capital gains taxes.

Honestly I dont see how you could qualify him as anything but a Liberal.

Reagan lowered cap gains to 20%
Bush 41 raised cap gains to 28%
Clinton lowered cap gains to 20%
Bush 43 lowered cap gains to 15%
Obama raised cap gains to 20%

Obama, as "liberal" as Ronald Reagan.
 
I like that! Mind if I use it?

Facts are not mine to give away.
Here's a chart to go along, showing how Obama is as much or more "conservative" as every modern president except Bush 43:

Historic_Cap_Gain_Tax.jpg
 
Obama called him his mentor. Are you calling Obama a liar?

I am not denying that he was his mentor. I will leave it to you to do some basic mental stretching to figure out how it can be that a person wouldn't necessarily agree with their mentor on political issues. It is apparently a bit difficult to work that out, for some people, but I assure you that if you give it a shot, you will see it as simple and even obvious.
 
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