• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State[W:496]

Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Shades of Dick Cheney and Halliburton.
Did you have a problem with Halliburton? Or Cheneys connection to Halliburton?
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Did you have a problem with Halliburton? Or Cheneys connection to Halliburton?

Nothing I can put my finger on, but Halliburton did pretty good in Iraq.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Its cute that you think a businessman that has ties to the WORLD is Russian. Its even more cute that you think any players on that stage that are viable dont already have global connections.

Man...Russia is living rent free in SO MANY peoples heads. Those liberal talking points they have been spewing for a year have really taken to seed.

No more than y'all had Hillary-E-Mail-Fever.

But we're headed faster towards Corporate Oligarchy and Corporate Capitalism. We're just going to put all those CEOs in charge and see where we end up, lol.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Nothing I can put my finger on, but Halliburton did pretty good in Iraq.
Halliburton did pretty good in New Orleans as well. They also did pretty good in Bosnia when BilL Clinton signed the IDIQ awarding them the no bid contract to rebuild cities. Do you know why Haliburton was awarded that IDIQ by the Clinton administration and why they have been used numerous times?
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

No more than y'all had Hillary-E-Mail-Fever.

But we're headed faster towards Corporate Oligarchy and Corporate Capitalism. We're just going to put all those CEOs in charge and see where we end up, lol.
When the people voted on a businessman instead of a career politician I figured they decided they already KNOW what happens with the politicians so maybe they can try a businessman instead. Who knows...maybe it works out well.

We had a lifetime politician as the SecState during the first part of the Obama admin. She sold access to her office (to THE RUSSIANS!!! THE RUSSIANS!!! to the tune of about 135 million in donations to her private bank account. I mean her 'foundation'. Funny...I never heard one person ****ting themselves over THE RUSSIANS!!! In fact...when Mitt Romney suggested they were a threat...

 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

When the people voted on a businessman instead of a career politician I figured they decided they already KNOW what happens with the politicians so maybe they can try a businessman instead.

Nobody knows what's going to happen with Trump as President. He simply had the serendipity of being "Not Hillary". You can't trust a dang thing Trump says, which I suppose puts him on level with Hillary, lol.

So no, we didn't know what it would look like, it was just that he wasn't Hillary, but he wasn't popular and now he's stacking his cabinet with CEOs and such, it's going to be a business free-for-all, and when I say "business", I mean "corporate". Fox is in the hen house now.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Nobody knows what's going to happen with Trump as President. He simply had the serendipity of being "Not Hillary". You can't trust a dang thing Trump says, which I suppose puts him on level with Hillary, lol.

So no, we didn't know what it would look like, it was just that he wasn't Hillary, but he wasn't popular and now he's stacking his cabinet with CEOs and such, it's going to be a business free-for-all, and when I say "business", I mean "corporate". Fox is in the hen house now.
Congress has a 7% approval rating. We have the lowest labor participation rate in history. We are at least 20 trillion in debt with little to show for it.

I agree that Trump made a lot of promises he never intended to keep. I dont 'trust' him and didnt vote for him. But I figure before we bury him we should at least wait til he has taken office. Lord knows that there is no scenario where the world was a better place with HRC in the Oval Office.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Congress has a 7% approval rating. We have the lowest labor participation rate in history. We are at least 20 trillion in debt with little to show for it.

I agree that Trump made a lot of promises he never intended to keep. I dont 'trust' him and didnt vote for him. But I figure before we bury him we should at least wait til he has taken office. Lord knows that there is no scenario where the world was a better place with HRC in the Oval Office.

There are tons of things that are wrong. However, it doesn't mean Trump is right. And he runs his mouth about "draining the swamp" and then turns right to the same ol' Corporate Oligarchy that's been influencing government and pushed us into this place were everything is fudged. I hope he does well, but I ain't holding my breath. And when we're putting in Big Energy over and over in positions they likely shouldn't be in, like Secretary of State or EPA, there's legitimate concern. The Corporate State is a bad thing, though not really different than where the standard Republocrat tactics were taking us.

I agree that Hillary would have been a disaster, but we didn't avoid a disaster through Trump, we just got a different sort of disaster.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

There are tons of things that are wrong. However, it doesn't mean Trump is right. And he runs his mouth about "draining the swamp" and then turns right to the same ol' Corporate Oligarchy that's been influencing government and pushed us into this place were everything is fudged. I hope he does well, but I ain't holding my breath. And when we're putting in Big Energy over and over in positions they likely shouldn't be in, like Secretary of State or EPA, there's legitimate concern. The Corporate State is a bad thing, though not really different than where the standard Republocrat tactics were taking us.

I agree that Hillary would have been a disaster, but we didn't avoid a disaster through Trump, we just got a different sort of disaster.
I never interpreted 'draining the swamp' as not hiring someone from the business world. To me, drain the swamp meant get rid of the career politicians that have worked so hard to destroy everything.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Halliburton did pretty good in New Orleans as well. They also did pretty good in Bosnia when BilL Clinton signed the IDIQ awarding them the no bid contract to rebuild cities. Do you know why Haliburton was awarded that IDIQ by the Clinton administration and why they have been used numerous times?

I don't have time to look into this right now. I'll just say that the perception of graft has to be avoided and Halliburton should not have benefitted from federal contracts while Cheney was there. Same with Exxon- they need to be disqualified from doing business with the federal government if Tillerson is SoS.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

I don't have time to look into this right now. I'll just say that the perception of graft has to be avoided and Halliburton should not have benefitted from federal contracts while Cheney was there. Same with Exxon- they need to be disqualified from doing business with the federal government if Tillerson is SoS.
the perception of graft with regards to Haliburton was a leftist talking point that was sold to other leftists. They bought it hook, line, and sinker and continue to regurgitate 'Halliburton!!!!' comments today, knowing as little about it today as they did back then. I would absolutely recommend a nice review over Halliburton and the award process for an IDIQ of its scope.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Of course Russia likes it. Someone may even have put it in Trump's ear-ov in the last week, as his list suddenly 'expanded' instead of narrowed, as it had been doing. How long until sanctions get lifted on the Half-Trillion dollar Exxon-PutinOil deal?

Russia Welcomes Idea of Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State - WSJ
Exxon Mobil CEO has appeared as the top choice for secretary of state in a Trump administration
By THOMAS GROVE - Dec. 12, 2016 - 9:10 a.m. ET

MOSCOW—President-elect Donald Trump’s top choice for secretary of state has met President Vladimir Putin on several occasions in the course of discussing oil deals in Russia, a spokesman for the Kremlin said Monday.

Exxon Mobil Corp. Chief Executive Rex Tillerson, a seasoned deal-maker whose company has a long history of doing business in Russia, is expected to be Mr. Trump’s pick, a transition official said Saturday.

“They [Messrs. Putin and Tillerson] have held business meetings. Indeed, the president has met Mr. Tillerson together with his partners in the Russian Federation,” spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Russian news agencies.

Mr. Peskov said the Kremlin would hope to have a good relationship with Mr. Tillerson, which could facilitate a constructive relationship between Washington and Moscow. “Regarding confirmation of whether he has good or bad ties with the Russian Federation, there is a large difference between being a secretary and being the head of even a very large company,” he said. “Therefore, any personal sympathy, so to speak, must take a back seat.”

Mr. Putin awarded Mr. Tillerson the Order of Friendship in 2013 for boosting ties between Russia and the U.S. before bilateral relations plunged in the wake of the separatist uprising in Ukraine and Russia’s annexation of Crimea. The executive was given the order after Exxon Mobil clinched an Arctic exploration pact with state-controlled PAO Rosneft.

“He carried out his duties extremely professionally,” Mr. Peskov said. Drilling under that pact was later put on hold after the U.S. applied sanctions on Russia over Ukraine.
 
Last edited:
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

The man is beloved by the Russian government, he continues to have close ties to Putin's inner circle, fought against sanctions after the Crimea and Ukrainian invasion....

Are we really supposed to believe this won't improve Russia's station?

Wow, does that sound bad.....Especially when someone that doesn't support Trump says it....I'll tell you fiddy....I think maybe we should let the man have his hearing, IF he is the one....
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

Wow, does that sound bad.....Especially when someone that doesn't support Trump says it....I'll tell you fiddy....I think maybe we should let the man have his hearing, IF he is the one....
Romney is OUT.

Romney confirms he's not Trump's pick for secretary of state - CNNPolitics.com
By Jim Acosta and Phil Mattingly, CNN
Updated 10:06 PM ET, Mon December 12, 2016


Leaving Tillerson or a total bat from hell.
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

There's a huge amount of economic potential being held back by the unnecessary conflict between Russia and the West. There are a lot more similarities between the 2 sides than differences - so why have this destructive conflict which only hurts both sides?

If Washington and Moscow can put their conflict behind them, then the strategic position of both improves. Tillerson might be capable of bridging that gap. He'll at least have some good credibility with Moscow, which could be parlayed into some gains for the American people.
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

Smart0629.webp
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

Tillerman is from Texas, is an engineer and an Eagle Scout. That says a lot.
 
Re: Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sour

Of course Russia likes it. Someone may even have put it in Trump's ear-ov in the last week, as his list suddenly 'expanded' instead of narrowed, as it had been doing. How long until sanctions get lifted on the Half-Trillion dollar Exxon-PutinOil deal?

Russia Welcomes Idea of Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State - WSJ
Exxon Mobil CEO has appeared as the top choice for secretary of state in a Trump administration
By THOMAS GROVE - Dec. 12, 2016 - 9:10 a.m. ET

Here we sit with a 20 trillion dollar debt, stagnant GDP growth, millions and millions of unemployed/under employed and people continuing to promote the status quo. The status quo got us into this mess so how about changing it to get us out. This is about economic growth and job creation and what better place to start than with the Secretary of State?
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

"Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State"

Excellent. Someone who has done things and been successful in life. It sure beats the last two incompetents we have had in that office. Perhaps we can now put America first.
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

Well, President's pick their cabinets....Do you think that the opposition should pick them or something? Let's see what the confirmations produce.

Isn't it amazing how people talk about change in DC then resist it when something new happens? If you want the same thing over and over again then Hillary would have been your choice. I am quite happy to see a successful business person heading the state department as this is new and different that will generate different results. All the negative speculation aside it is time for a new beginning
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

This is going to be an absolute disaster. A President with no experience picks a man with zero foreign policy experience to be Secretary of State. I seriously hope that we survive until the next election. This is downright scary.
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

This is going to be an absolute disaster. A President with no experience picks a man with zero foreign policy experience to be Secretary of State. I seriously hope that we survive until the next election. This is downright scary.

Great, the fact that you don't support the move means it is a good one. you want the status quo and I voted for change. You want someone in foreign policy that helped create the problems we have today, I didn't. This is a great choice for the three most important things for this country, national security, economic growth, and real job creation.
 
Re: Exxon’s Rex Tillerson Is Top Candidate for Secretary of State

Great, the fact that you don't support the move means it is a good one. you want the status quo and I voted for change. You want someone in foreign policy that helped create the problems we have today, I didn't. This is a great choice for the three most important things for this country, national security, economic growth, and real job creation.

LOL....much of the problems that we face today regarding foreign policy are a direct result of your "hero's" failure to think through the consequences of destabilizing an already unstable region. Then again....you call the man an "economic genius" despite the fact that he drove this country to the brink of bankruptcy.

So.....forgive me if I laugh at your "optimism".
 
Back
Top Bottom