EXPOSED: Leaked Emails Show DNC Colluded with Media to Push Clinton Nomination

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What a shock! Illegal and unethical behavior regarding emails by the DNC involving Clinton.

Some will find that hard to believe. Mostly democrats.

Not democrats, they embrace it.

 

[Moot]

Dat projection.

Also, let's be very clear about this: the DNC is supposed to be neutral, claimed neutrality, and yet was in full support of Hillary. That is corruption. That is a subversion of the Democratic nomination process, end of story.

The DNC supported both of them equally....just like they did in 2008. Did they support Clinton more than Obama, then? It was Bernie that wanted special treatment without giving anything back in return. That's not corruption...that's just an old man playing out the end of his game. End of Bernie if you keep attacking the people that helped to support his campaign.

 

[Surrealistik]

The DNC supported both of them equally....just like they did in 2008. Did they support Clinton more than Obama, then? It was Bernie that wanted special treatment without giving anything back in return. That's not corruption...that's just an old man playing out the end of his game.

What special treatment did Bernie want exactly? Not to have the party be egregiously biased against him whenever it was conceivably possible?

 

[Hawkeye10]

The DNC supported both of them equally....just like they did in 2008. Did they support Clinton more than Obama, then? It was Bernie that wanted special treatment without giving anything back in return. That's not corruption...that's just an old man playing out the end of his game. End of Bernie if you keep attacking the people that helped to support his campaign.

OMG that is funny.

Thanks.

 

[Moot]

What special treatment did Bernie want exactly? Not to have the party be egregiously biased against him whenever it was conceivably possible?

He wanted to break the rules and not suffer any consequences. He wanted the funding that Clinton raised for the DNC to support his campaign. Bernie wanted the rules changed just for him because he wasn't getting the popular vote and didn't try to get delegates until late in the game. Bernie was treated more fair than he deserved.

 

[notquiteright]

LOL. Why are you playing the victim card yourself?

I can understand how Conservatives with no real talking point attempt to pretend a series of questions asking for proof is something other than that.

No victim here, just asking where the media colluded with the DNC about anything. i read typical Party (as BOTH sides attempt to get their ducks in a row) discussion on how to present their candidate and where the other side's might be exposed. I do realize it is difficult for Rebus Pubus to get a series of talking points lined up when the Orange Guy goes bat **** crazy daily... eace

 

[chuckiechan]

Why did the democrats even go through the charade of having democrats vote?

 

[ocean515]

I can understand how Conservatives with no real talking point attempt to pretend a series of questions asking for proof is something other than that.

No victim here, just asking where the media colluded with the DNC about anything. i read typical Party (as BOTH sides attempt to get their ducks in a row) discussion on how to present their candidate and where the other side's might be exposed. I do realize it is difficult for Rebus Pubus to get a series of talking points lined up when the Orange Guy goes bat **** crazy daily... eace

LOL.

A series of questions asking for proof? They weren't questions asking for proof, they were ridiculous attempts avoid the evidence presented. Did you miss something? Yep, the whole point.

Obviously, you can reject anything you want. Denial is a personal decision.

I recognize reality for socialist progressives can only come from approved sources. All others are not burdened by such a requirement.

 

[notquiteright]

LOL. A series of questions asking for proof? They weren't questions asking for proof, they were ridiculous attempts avoid the evidence presented. Did you miss something? Yep, the whole point. Obviously, you can reject anything you want. Denial is a personal decision. I recognize reality for socialist progressives can only come from approved sources. All others are not burdened by such a requirement.

Who said I was a socialist progressive?

Where is the CNN email accepting advice or offering it?

You resort to the typical Con game- making crap up- are you by any chance a Trumper- it is his MO to a tee... eace

 

[ocean515]

Who said I was a socialist progressive?

Where is the CNN email accepting advice or offering it?

You resort to the typical Con game- making crap up- are you by any chance a Trumper- it is his MO to a tee... eace

Who said I was a conservative?

CNN? Did you invent that connection?

You made up bizarre connections in your laughable "questions", and then accuse me of making crap up?

Perhaps you should reconsider who you are accusing of following an MO. That person is much closer to you than you imagine.

 

[Surrealistik]

He wanted to break the rules and not suffer any consequences. He wanted the funding that Clinton raised for the DNC to support his campaign. Bernie wanted the rules changed just for him because he wasn't getting the popular vote and didn't try to get delegates until late in the game. Bernie was treated more fair than he deserved.

Which rules?

The ones he was ultimately cleared of breaking per the independent report?

You mean funding he also helped raise as you've mentioned in the past (also what funding was he asking for that in any way was outside of the norm for a nomination candidate?)?

You mean the anti-democratic rules that should be changed, and whose calls for revision were more about the integrity of the nomination process than him singly?

And if you think he was 'treated more fairly than he deserved' despite what is by now blatant and confirmed DNC corruption in Hillary's favour, I'd hate to see what you feel he 'deserved'.

 

[Moot]

Which rules?

The DNC rules.

The ones he was ultimately cleared of breaking per the independent report?

The report showed that Bernie's campaign downloaded Clintons voter file onto their computers. Accidentally opening the file is one thing...actually downloading it onto another computer is another. That wasn't a mistake.

You mean funding he also helped raise as you've mentioned in the past (also what funding was he asking for that in any way was outside of the norm for a nomination candidate?)?

Bernie didn't give any of his campaign funds to the DNC so they could pay for the research that he benefitted from.

You mean the anti-democratic rules that should be changed, and whose calls for revision were more about the integrity of the nomination process than him singly?

No, I mean the rules that Bernie agreed to before he started campaigning....and only whined about after he was losing the popular vote.

And if you think he was 'treated more fairly than he deserved' despite what is by now blatant and confirmed DNC corruption in Hillary's favour, I'd hate to see what you feel he 'deserved'.

Then I guess we'll just have to disagree on what is fair. Personally, I think he was treated more than fair considering he's not even a member of the democrat party and didn't fund raise for the DNC or other candidates down the line.

 

[Surrealistik]

The DNC rules.

Right, the rules he didn't actually break, but the DNC did per Debbie Wasserman (see below).

The report showed that Bernie's campaign downloaded Clintons voter file onto their computers. Accidentally opening the file is one thing...actually downloading it onto another computer is another. That wasn't a mistake.

The report actually showed that the version of events you repeatedly and falsely advertised were incorrect and greatly exaggerated. The DNC knew it had nothing material to support the suspension of his campaign's access to the DNC voter files and so resumed access for the Sanders' campaign.

Sanders Proven Right Again, Drops DNC Data Breach Lawsuit

Further, DWS was in violation of the DNC's own rules by not holding to providing the Sanders campaign 10 days to rectify the alleged issue (which it did, as much as it was within its power to do so) before cutting off access to the voter file.

Bernie didn't give any of his campaign funds to the DNC so they could pay for the research that he benefitted from.

Bernie raised plenty of funds in tandem with Democrats for Democratic purposes. Further, he made no unusual demands in excess of those typical for a nominee candidate.

No, I mean the rules that Bernie agreed to before he started campaigning....and only whined about after he was losing the popular vote.

So in otherwords, yes the anti-democratic rules he was shafted by. Agreeing to play by a set of rules neither A: makes them good rules, or B: puts them above critique.

Then I guess we'll just have to disagree on what is fair. Personally, I think he was treated more than fair considering he's not even a member of the democrat party and didn't fund raise for the DNC or other candidates down the line.

He was by definition a member of the Democratic party when running, and whether or not he didn't fund raise for the DNC (he did), the DNC is supposed to observe their own rules of neutrality as opposed to exerting an egregious bias in Hillary's favour.


How long can you go on making excuses for such an obvious and elementary injustice?

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Or perhaps they just didn't care because he was Shillaries best shot at an easy(-er) general election. Go figure media helped the republican candidate with the undisputed worst numbers push his way through to the nomination, against all odds.

Yep, and when Trump wins they will represent the largest political failure in modern history, helping to elect America's First Dictator.

 

[Kobie]

I'm not exactly sure how internal talking points, which every campaign has, somehow indicates that the DNC "colluded" with "the media." Every single campaign in the history of campaigns has attempted to control messaging, to mitigate politically damaging factors, and to highlight its opponents' weaknesses. Was the DNC completely in the tank for Hillary, rather than letting the constituency choose the nominee? Of course it was.

However, that's not "collusion" with "the media," any more than "the media" has colluded with most campaigns over the last three decades by acting less as the guardian of public trust and more as professional stenographers for candidates and politician, both Republican and Democrat, in order to sell newspapers/ads/etc. and to ensure access.

 

[Surrealistik]

I'm not exactly sure how internal talking points, which every campaign has, somehow indicates that the DNC "colluded" with "the media." Every single campaign in the history of campaigns has attempted to control messaging, to mitigate politically damaging factors, and to highlight its opponents' weaknesses. Was the DNC completely in the tank for Hillary, rather than letting the constituency choose the nominee? Of course it was.

However, that's not "collusion" with "the media," any more than "the media" has colluded with most campaigns over the last three decades by acting less as the guardian of public trust and more as professional stenographers for candidates and politician, both Republican and Democrat, in order to sell newspapers/ads/etc. and to ensure access.

The true scandal isn't this so much as it is the nature and wording of the e-mails which effectively depicts a DNC both in lockstep with the Hillary campaign and that presupposes her as nominee rather than being the independent body they claimed and are supposed to be.

 

[Kobie]

Yep, and when Trump wins they will represent the largest political failure in modern history, helping to elect America's First Dictator.

Meh, I think Trump would be awful, but even if he wins he's going to kill the GOP down ticket and, well, good luck finding a Congress that won't kneecap you worse than Obama ever got it, you Cheeto-hued freakshow.

 

[Threegoofs]

The true scandal isn't this so much as is the nature and wording of the e-mails which effectively depicts a DNC both in lockstep with the Hillary campaign and that presupposes her as nominee rather than being the independent body they claimed and are supposed to be.

Those (totally out of context) emails were written just a couple weeks after Sanders announced.

We have no idea what they were written in response to, or if there was a second email discussing media talking points with Sanders, or O'Malley.

The 'evidence' here is ridiculous, and it's nuts that most posters on this thread accept the OP as true.

 

[Surrealistik]

Those (totally out of context) emails were written just a couple weeks after Sanders announced.

We have no idea what they were written in response to, or if there was a second email discussing media talking points with Sanders, or O'Malley.

The 'evidence' here is ridiculous, and it's nuts that most posters on this thread accept the OP as true.

If there's a 'context' that can explain away this thus far clear and evident bias, the DNC has yet to present it despite it being very clearly in its best interests to do so.

 

[Threegoofs]

If there's a 'context' that can explain away this thus far clear and evident bias, the DNC has yet to present it despite it being very clearly in its best interests to do so.

But the bias is neither clear nor evident.

 

[Deuce]

Primary voters, potentially.
I mean, again if these are real, it shows they're pushing one candidate over another, possibly colluding with the media to do so.
It's not a smoking gun, but it's circumstantial enough to look for further evidence and question the primary process of the party.

People still got to vote. "Pushing one candidate" doesn't mean anything. The DNC has every right to like one candidate better than another. They're a private organization. Hell, they don't even have a particular obligation to let you vote on their candidate in the first place. Even if this supposed scandal is accurate, more people voted for Hillary. Nobody stole anything.

People get to try and convince you to vote for them. That's how elections work.

 

[Surrealistik]

But the bias is neither clear nor evident.

Your baseless opinion is noted and summarily rejected.

People still got to vote. "Pushing one candidate" doesn't mean anything. The DNC has every right to like one candidate better than another. They're a private organization. Hell, they don't even have a particular obligation to let you vote on their candidate in the first place. Even if this supposed scandal is accurate, more people voted for Hillary. Nobody stole anything.

People get to try and convince you to vote for them. That's how elections work.

Except when it's official DNC policy to be neutral during the nomination process, which it kind of is.

 

[iguanaman]

Refusal to play does not equate to nice, it comes from either arrogance or lack of confidence usually.

When it comes to women nice guys tend to finish last ( and they usually deserve to finish last), but that is a whole nother kettle of fish.

It seems you share Trumps monolithic view of women. It sure must make things easier. I don't think most women appreciate being reduced to a stereotype though. I know some that would physically kick your butt if you tried it on them.

 

[Threegoofs]

Your baseless opinion is noted

Yet it's not baseless.

I know you REALLY want to believe...but facts are stubborn things.

 

[Hawkeye10]

It seems you share Trumps monolithic view of women. It sure must make things easier. I don't think most women appreciate being reduced to a stereotype though. I know some that would physically kick your butt if you tried it on them.

Stereotypes, if they are quality, save a lot of time and are an important tool in the living of the good life. You are going to do it whether you want to or not, that is how the brain works. If you (figuratively) cant deal with the reality then tough cookies to you (figuratively) I always say. Those women who don't appreciate a guy who works well and works efficiently are not for me anyways, they can take their complaints to guys who care about their hurt feelings on account of the fact that they are not SPECIAL to me.

I suggest a good cry and ice cream.

Seriously.