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Explaining Why Federal Deficits Are Needed[W:5330]

Conservative said:
I would say doubling the GDP, creating almost 17 million jobs and creating a peace dividend which Reagan generated not only benefited my side but the country. It is called return on investment. what return did the country get on the 10 trillion Obama has added to the debt?

Obviously you have no concept of what Return on Investment means and what a good return is. Kush continues to post spending as a percentage of GDP and posting this as a credit to Obama but he never posts debt as a percentage of GDP as it relates to Obama. Reagan's debt to GDP was 52%, GW Bush's was 72%, and Obama's is well over 100%. You so called centrists don't seem to understand the actual numbers.
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We understand completely.

As usual.

Debt created by (R) - A ok!

Debt created by (D) - Bad!
 
Critter7r said:
Oh look, another "na na na na naaaaa naaaaa" post where someone forgot to use the sarcasm font.

I'm so looking forward to right applauding Trump for continuing to do all the things they derided Obama for doing.
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It is truly going to be fun to watch starting with President elect Hillary getting Boeing to reduce the cost of the new Air Force One. This was a great first step in showing how much Hillary cares about the deficit and debt by closing watching how our dollars are spent. I particularly also like her choice for Secretary of State. It is absolute brilliance to select a business executive who ran the largest company in the world and negotiated deals with foreign governments to help promote strong economic growth and job creation.

Thank you for bringing me to my senses and convincing me to vote for Hillary
 
Jetboogieman said:
We understand completely.

As usual.

Debt created by (R) - A ok!

Debt created by (D) - Bad!
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Actually you are right, Obama's 10 trillion added to the debt generated an incredible return on investment and gave us President elect Hillary thus that debt was ok.
 
Conservative said:
You are right, thanks for correcting me, Obama's 10 trillion added to the debt generated an incredible return on investment and gave us President elect Hillary. What we really need to do during the next 4 years is get the electoral college overturn as well as overturn Voter ID laws to make sure that we have a permanent position in the WH. All these states with voter ID laws hurt Hillary's popular vote count and need to be repealed. The lack of Voter ID Laws in California, NY helped generate the popular vote win for Hillary which goes to show how much we need to repeal them
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Again, you keep screeching about the debt but are unable to make the connection between the debt and the economy.

Furthermore, after 8 years, Obama created over 12,000,000 new jobs. After 8 years of Bush, we lost 460,000 jobs.
 
JohnfrmClevelan said:
The private sector economy is not dependent on Federal spending - theoretically. In reality, it is extraordinarily difficult for private debt to deal with savings and trade deficits over the long run. Plus, the economy would be far more unstable, without that source of exogenous money in down times.
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That exogenous money simply rewards bad behavior and is thus increases moral hazard.
 
Conservative said:
It is truly going to be fun to watch starting with President elect Hillary getting Boeing to reduce the cost of the new Air Force One. This was a great first step in showing how much Hillary cares about the deficit and debt by closing watching how our dollars are spent. I particularly also like her choice for Secretary of State. It is absolute brilliance to select a business executive who ran the largest company in the world and negotiated deals with foreign governments to help promote strong economic growth and job creation.

Thank you for bringing me to my senses and convincing me to vote for Hillary
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It was fun to see Boeing lower the cost at her request, especially after she had to waffle from her previous position of boasting that she wasn't going to order, need or use a new Air Force One in the first place.

And I'm sure that her appointment of the CEO of a major oil and gas exploration and extraction company with zero political experience to be the new Secretary of State won't be a complete boondoggle or cause any sort of conflict-of-interest issues whatsoever.

If Obama had done these things, he'd have been murdered. Literally. But Saint Trump can obviously do no wrong. The more f'ed up things he does, the more he's lauded for "going against the Establishment".
 
Critter7r said:
But it benefits "your side", so you don't complain about it.
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But you guys admit that both sides do gerrymandering. Which side does superdelegates? What better gerrymandering can their be in rigging an election than superdelegates? What about Clinton's warchest? She outspent Trump by megamillions, if not billions, overall. Was that fair?
 
Critter7r said:
Oh look, another "na na na na naaaaa naaaaa" post where someone forgot to use the sarcasm font.

I'm so looking forward to right applauding Trump for continuing to do all the things they derided Obama for doing.
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There's a sarcasm font? Nobody told me about that.
 
Incisor said:
Again, you keep screeching about the debt but are unable to make the connection between the debt and the economy.

Furthermore, after 8 years, Obama created over 12,000,000 new jobs. After 8 years of Bush, we lost 460,000 jobs.
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Cherry picked figures. Bush left office at the time of a recession. Obama took office at the start of a recession. Obviously those numbers are skewed.
 
Moderate Right said:
Cherry picked figures. Bush left office at the time of a recession. Obama took office at the start of a recession. Obviously those numbers are skewed.
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But either way, those jobs were lost due to policies enacted by one and regained by policies enacted by the other.
 
Incisor said:
Again, you keep screeching about the debt but are unable to make the connection between the debt and the economy.

Furthermore, after 8 years, Obama created over 12,000,000 new jobs. After 8 years of Bush, we lost 460,000 jobs.
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That is exactly why Hillary is President elect, it is such a booming economy that the country wanted to carry on with the Obama agenda.
 
Critter7r said:
It was fun to see Boeing lower the cost at her request, especially after she had to waffle from her previous position of boasting that she wasn't going to order, need or use a new Air Force One in the first place.

And I'm sure that her appointment of the CEO of a major oil and gas exploration and extraction company with zero political experience to be the new Secretary of State won't be a complete boondoggle or cause any sort of conflict-of-interest issues whatsoever.

If Obama had done these things, he'd have been murdered. Literally. But Saint Trump can obviously do no wrong. The more f'ed up things he does, the more he's lauded for "going against the Establishment".
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Oh, but wait, Obama is doing these things through President elect Hillary. The country got it, you are right, Obama should be in his rightful place on Mt. Rushmore. Thankfully Hillary ran on the Obama record and it got the recognition it deserved. It was great seeing the Coal miners of W. Va. always Democrat constituents fall back in line supporting our Democratic candidate, Hillary
 
Critter7r said:
But either way, those jobs were lost due to policies enacted by one and regained by policies enacted by the other.
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We need to keep spreading those numbers even though BLS doesn't support them. Doesn't really matter since all Democrats and liberals like us are going to believe them. It really doesn't matter that Bush left office at the end of the recession started after the Democrats took control of Congress because we benefited greatly by winning the WH and keeping both houses until January 2011. I still have no idea how we lost the house with those great Obama numbers.

I am so happy that we never took the employment when Obama took office and looked at it two years later AFTER the stimulus was implemented to see the 3 million fewer employed. Most people wouldn't look at those numbers either which is a good thing. Thankfully the Democrats regained the House in 2012, and the entire Congress in 2014 thanks again to those great Obama economic numbers. Just think four more years of the Obama agenda forwarded by President Elect Hillary
 
Conservative said:
Oh, wow, you just don't get much information where you live. W. Va. is a huge coal state and a Democrat Constituency
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The last Dem POTUS that won WV was BC in 1996, that was over 20 years, a generation, ago.

You know nothing about nor care about "information".
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The last Dem POTUS that won WV was BC in 1996, that was over 20 years, a generation, ago.

You know nothing about nor care about "information".
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There is more than just the Presidential election in the state, the state is blue collar and historically votes for Democrats in state and local elections but aren't going to vote for Obama or Hillary who are anti coal. I thought it was the Democratic party that was for the working class in this country, not the Republicans?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
But that was the CONTEXT of your comment, POTUS elections and WV.

You are a generation behind in understanding WV POTUS elections.
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Why exactly would anyone in W. Va. a coal mining state vote for Obama and Hillary?? My point stands, they are predominantly the Democrat demographics that you seem to claim the Democrats represent but not in W. Va.
 
Conservative said:
Why exactly would anyone in W. Va. a coal mining state vote for Obama and Hillary?? My point stands, they are predominantly the Democrat demographics that you seem to claim the Democrats represent but not in W. Va.
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They are not democrats if for more than 20 years they have voted for GOP POTUS candidates. Results, apparently, do not matter to you.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
They are not democrats if for more than 20 years they have voted for GOP POTUS candidates. Results, apparently, do not matter to you.
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They vote in state and local elections for Democrats but thank you for showing that these truly aren't the democrat constituents that you want your party to support and the image you want to project to the country, mission accomplished.
 
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