Expect the demand for AR-15s to increase

[Threegoofs]

That's war, you got to fight with what you got, and I'd rather have an AR-15 than a stick, stone, pistol or shotgun.

There’s not a war.

that’s the ****ing problem.

 

[Exquisitor]

There’s not a war.

that’s the ****ing problem.

But we got to be always ready for one.

Any day we could all be coops for rounding up.

 

[calamity]

...Any day we could all be coops for rounding up.

Oddly enough, if it happens, it will be the gun nut side that does it. And, I suspect that are more than alright with that.

 

[calamity]

I guess you didn't bother reading what I wrote. I noted the bannerrhoids tend to shed crocodile tears when the victims are white but not when the victims are black.

I notice gun zealots don't care about dead kids. It's pathological, especially when it is shown that more kids die only because of guns.

 

[PLizzy]

democrats piss all over our constitutional rights and lie about why they do

Oh, that's rich.

Republicans are literally the party that wants to control every social behavior they goes against conservative moral philosophy.

Drugs, video games, music, porn, prostitution, gambling, evolutionary biology, LGBT marriage, and the list goes on of shit Republicans are always trying to control.

Hell, my governor Abbott, once tried to ban dildos here Texas, so please save this dance where you try and paint Dems as the party the opposes personal freedom.

 

[Exquisitor]

Oddly enough, if it happens, it will be the gun nut side that does it. And, I suspect that are more than alright with that.

Well, if the take away the AR-15, I'm not going to cry, that's what they get for investing in a Team that went with Trump.

Why can't you rifle folks talk sense into the Democratic Party?

Say like, "If you let me keep my AR-15 I'll let you put all the mental health people on a list. I'll let you educate my people to report threatening speech and allow you to take away their right to buy a gun."

 

[craig]

Oddly enough, if it happens, it will be the gun nut side that does it.

I notice gun zealots don't care about dead kids. It's pathological, especially when it is shown that more kids die only because of guns.

It sounds like you are only concerned about kids who are killed with a gun.

 

[calamity]

It sounds like ...

No, it was written.

 

[PLizzy]

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Since when is hunting and target shooting of such a high liberty, that they are more important than public safety?

Venomous snakes are cool and people have a right to own animals, but even in dumbass Texas we require permits for them. Dealers are required to ask questions "why do you want this snake? Is this your first venomous snake? Do you have any training with this species?" You can't just go buy one of those mother****ers, because in the wrong hands innocent people can be killed by the actions of one moron.

We literally take more care that the exotic animal trade is better regulated than the gun trade in this country.

 

[CLAX1911]

Since when is hunting and target shooting of such a high liberty, that they are more important than public safety?

You'll have to show target shooting and hunting to be an eminent threat to public safety for this comment to be taken seriously. And no people having guns aren't a threat you public safety.

Venomous snakes are cool and people have a right to own animals, but even in dumbass Texas we require permits for them. Dealers are required to ask questions "why do you want this snake? Is this your first venomous snake? Do you have any training with this species?" You can't just go buy one of those mother****ers, because in the wrong hands innocent people can be killed by the actions of one moron.

It's not a constitutional right to keep snakes. Ownership permits for guns is unacceptable. We aren't permitted to own then we have a right to own them. See t second amendment.

We literally take more care that the exotic animal trade is better regulated than the gun trade in this country.

Red tape and fees isn't care. Besides introducing alien predators into ecosystems is a bigger problem than people you don't like owning guns.

 

[PLizzy]

You'll have to show target shooting and hunting to be an eminent threat to public safety

Hmmmm

No I don't.

And no people having guns aren't a threat you public safety.

Of course they are. Gun ownership is a liability. Doesn't mean that it can't have good uses, but it's still living with a risk.

It's not a constitutional right to keep snakes.

And you thought I wasn't aware of this?

Ownership permits for guns is unacceptable. We aren't permitted to own then we have a right to own them. See t second amendment.

Not sure what you were trying to say here.

Regardless, gun ownership can't be "infringed". All that means is that the mere right to own a gun can't be controlled. It doesn't mean the government can't place requirements for how citizens use those guns.

You don't have the right to have a gun in a government building, at the airport, on a private property that bans them. You don't have a right to brandish them in a threatening manner. You don't have the right to have them on your person in many, many circumstances, and it's not an infringement.

Red tape and fees isn't care. Besides introducing alien predators into ecosystems is a bigger problem than people you don't like owning guns.

Did you just call laws regulating the ownership of venomous snakes "red tape"? Please, say you did. Make this easy for me.

 

[CLAX1911]

Hmmmm

No I don't.

Sure, you can just brainlessly run your mouth.

Of course they are. Gun ownership is a liability. Doesn't mean that it can't have good uses, but it's still living with a risk.

Risk of what?

And you thought I wasn't aware of this?

You're asking why we don't need permission for our rights, you didn't seem aware of that. If you are than you know why your question is stupid.

Not sure what you were trying to say here.

I'm not trying to say anything, I successfully said what I typed. Did you forget how to read English for a moment there?

Regardless, gun ownership can't "infringed". All that means is that mere right to own a gun can't be controlled. It doesn't mean the government can't place requirements for how citizens use those guns.

They can't require permits anymore than they can to be part of a religion. Right means I don't need a permit.

You don't have the right to have a gun in a government building, at the airport, on a private property that bans them.

Gun ownership rights don't supercede private property rights.

You don't have a right to brandish them in a threatening manner. You don't have the right to have them on your person in many, many circumstances, and it's not an infringement.

No you don't have the right to threaten people DERP.

Did you just call laws regulating the ownership of venomous snakes "red tape"? Please, say you did. Make this easy for me.

I never say the stupid things you type. You said that. I said what I typed. Did you forget how to read English again?

 

[CLAX1911]

Oh, that's rich.

Republicans are literally the party that wants to control every social behavior they goes against conservative moral philosophy.

What like not murdering people, and promoting a string family?

Yeah, not doing that is social suicide.

Drugs, video games, music, porn, prostitution, gambling, evolutionary biology, LGBT marriage, and the list goes on of shit Republicans are always trying to control.

Some of those things are proven to cause social problems.

Hell, my governor Abbott, once tried to ban dildos here Texas, so please save this dance where you try and paint Dems as the party the opposes personal freedom.

they are. The oppose ownership of firearms, various vehicles they don't like, free speech, religion.

 

[Batcat]

Since when is hunting and target shooting of such a high liberty, that they are more important than public safety?

Venomous snakes are cool and people have a right to own animals, but even in dumbass Texas we require permits for them. Dealers are required to ask questions "why do you want this snake? Is this your first venomous snake? Do you have any training with this species?" You can't just go buy one of those mother****ers, because in the wrong hands innocent people can be killed by the actions of one moron.

We literally take more care that the exotic animal trade is better regulated than the gun trade in this country.

I didn’t say the most important use of an AR-15 is hunting or target shooting. I just listed reasons a person might have for owning an AR-15. Obviously one individual may put hunting in first place because he hunts feral hog with his AR-15 while another puts it in last place as he doesn’t hunt.

Nothing in the the Bill of Rights explicitly grants a person the right to own a venomous snake.

 

[CLAX1911]

I didn’t say the most important use of an AR-15 is hunting or target shooting. I just listed reasons a person might have for owning an AR-15. Obviously one individual may put hunting in first place because he hunts feral hog with his AR-15 while another puts it in last place as he doesn’t hunt.

Nothing in the the Bill of Rights explicitly grants a person the right to own a venomous snake.

I made that same point to him and he acted like he already knew that I guess he doesn't understand his own question

 

[PLizzy]

I didn’t say the most important use of an AR-15 is hunting or target shooting. I just listed reasons a person might have for owning an AR-15. Obviously one individual may put hunting in first place because he hunts feral hog with his AR-15 while another puts it in last place as he doesn’t hunt.

Nothing in the the Bill of Rights explicitly grants a person the right to own a venomous snake.

And?

The BoR isn't a perfect document, or else we wouldn't need courts to interpret it and its limits. The reality is that even gun ownership is not an absolute right. Restrictions exist and have been rule legal by the SCOTUS in many, many instances.

It would not been infringing on gun ownership to require purchases of certain guns meet certain, reasonable criteria.

 

[Rich2018]

Time to sell then.

Trend analysis

 

[CLAX1911]

And?

The BoR isn't a perfect document, or else we wouldn't need courts to interpret it and its limits. The reality is that even gun ownership is not an absolute right. Restrictions exist and have been rule legal by the SCOTUS in many, many instances.

Nobody is saying it's an absolute right just that it's a right. You don't need a permit for free speech or to have a redress of grievances.

You are the one here that doesn't understand.

It would not been infringing on gun ownership to require purchases of certain guns meet certain, reasonable criteria.

Right, that they don't look scary to an ignoramus isn't reasonable.

 

[Rich2018]

Right, that they don't look scary to an ignoramus isn't reasonable.

Double negative, the reverse meaning of what you intended I suspect,

 

[dave8383]

Double negative, the reverse meaning of what you intended I suspect,

I'm from New England so I use double negatives all the time. "So didn't I." So aren't they", etc. It wasn't until I went away to school that I realized that everyone didn't speak that way.

 

[Batcat]

And?

The BoR isn't a perfect document, or else we wouldn't need courts to interpret it and its limits. The reality is that even gun ownership is not an absolute right. Restrictions exist and have been rule legal by the SCOTUS in many, many instances.

It would not been infringing on gun ownership to require purchases of certain guns meet certain, reasonable criteria.

Explain to me the “reasonable criteria“ that was used to “ban” the AR-15 but not the Ruger Mini-14.


Pre-Ban Colt AR-15 A2 Government Model Semi-Automatic Carbine


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Why is a Ruger Mini-14 exempted from the Assault Weapons ban and not an AR-15?
These two rifles are favorites among gun people and have more or less been in direct competition with each other when it comes to semi-automatic .223 rifles. I've seen many gun forums where gun guys argue for the preference of one over the other.

I was shocked to learn that the Ruger Mini-14 will be exempted from the Assault Weapons ban. But the AR-15 will not be. Why is this? The features of these two weapons are nearly the same.

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[TurtleDude]

Oh, that's rich.

Republicans are literally the party that wants to control every social behavior they goes against conservative moral philosophy.

Drugs, video games, music, porn, prostitution, gambling, evolutionary biology, LGBT marriage, and the list goes on of shit Republicans are always trying to control.

Hell, my governor Abbott, once tried to ban dildos here Texas, so please save this dance where you try and paint Dems as the party the opposes personal freedom.

this is a gun thread and when it comes to gun rights, the Democrats are the party of pissing on our rights. If you want to start a thread in the sex toys forum be my guest and I will back you up there-you should have an absolute right to own any size dildo of any motor power you want.

 

[TurtleDude]

I notice gun zealots don't care about dead kids. It's pathological, especially when it is shown that more kids die only because of guns.

what we don't care about is giving up our rights to placate people who pretend they care about dead kids (but only when they can use the deaths to advance their anti gun agenda)

 

[TurtleDude]

Of course. It's the big con. Everytime a Democrat is elected the NRA embarks on this bullshit campaign that <insert democrat's name here> is going to take all your guns away. Then there's a mad rush on guns and ammo until there's a shortage of both. Gun nuts are so easy to manipulate.

that's not quite true. when Ted Strickland ran for governor-both successfully and unsuccessfully later on, the NRA endorsed him. They endorsed him over Kave in Kasich IIRC. They also endorsed Richard Cordray over Mike DeWhine for AG and most of the local groups of NRA affiliates supported Cordray for governor (I think the national office was uncommitted). John Dingell-long time Democrat Congressman from Michigan (the guy who first called the ATF "jack booted fascists") was endorsed by the NRA for DECADES.

 

[TurtleDude]

There’s not a war.

that’s the ****ing problem.

exactly, which is why so many CIVILIAN police agencies have adopted them