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Exodus 21 is an important chapter. It sets up rules for many aspects of living in a society, but it has generated more than it's share of differing translations, discussion, controversy and disagreement especially verses 22 - 25. Why so many different translations, what translation do you favor and why?
My choice of translations is The New Jerusalem Bible (NJB)
Just out of curiousity - why is it so important a chapter for living in a society today?
A lot of those rules were made in accordance to the culture of the time (of that particular society).
I don't think today's Jews have slaves, or are themselves, slaves.
All the ordinances that are relevant today would've been taken from the 10 Commandments that was given to Moses.
And as Jesus had stated, everything sums up to Love of God and love of neighbor.
Good place for a revisionist incursion, go back and make Israel free of slaves and they never get captured by Babylon and Christ comes and has a party.So the rules were made by men (meaning the book they were found in was written by men and this is the word of men) and not created by a perfectly moral deity?
Why was your god able to tell people not to eat shellfish but was too weak to tell them not to own other humans as property?
I don't know why it has taken on the importance has. That's why I posed the topic.Just out of curiousity - why is it so important a chapter for living in a society today?
You may be right. Neither my BIL or SIL seem to have slaves. Although, there have been occasional complaints from their kids.A lot of those rules were made in accordance to the culture of the time (of that particular society).
I don't think today's Jews have slaves, or are themselves, slaves.
I don't know why it has taken on the importance has. That's why I posed the topic.
You may be right. Neither my BIL or SIL seem to have slaves.
Well, speaking of word games - where does God say "slavery is cool and moral?"Why so many different translations?
Because Christians have a problem with worshipping a god that says slavery is cool and moral. So they create apologetics by trying to play word games.
It’s worth noting Christians had no problem with the translations until societies started abolition. Then when it was clear their society was more moral than the god of their holy book, they had to start the apologetics.
Because languages change over time and interpretation is often required when translating from one language to another which doesn’t have equivalent words.Why so many different translations?
Exodus 21 is an important chapter. It sets up rules for many aspects of living in a society, but it has generated more than it's share of differing translations, discussion, controversy and disagreement especially verses 22 - 25. Why so many different translations, what translation do you favor and why?
My choice of translations is The New Jerusalem Bible (NJB)
Why so many different translations?
Because Christians have a problem with worshipping a god that says slavery is cool and moral. So they create apologetics by trying to play word games.
It’s worth noting Christians had no problem with the translations until societies started abolition. Then when it was clear their society was more moral than the god of their holy book, they had to start the apologetics.
https://giphy.com/KtdlOrqHmSZbiWell, speaking of word games - where does God say "slavery is cool and moral?"
Bingo!Just my opinion, but...
The entirety of the Law was to demonstrate to man that we are incapable of upholding it. The penalty for breaking the Law (any law no matter how seemingly insignificant) is death, and therefore mankind needs a Savior.
Well, speaking of word games - where does God say "slavery is cool and moral?"
Immoral by the contemporary, i.e. Bronze Age, standards? No.When he gives explicit permission for people to own other humans as property.
Or does the god of the Bible encourage people to do immoral things?
Immoral by the contemporary, i.e. Bronze Age, standards? No.
Such deities make their own rules in every mythology. That is their prerogative.So God’s standards aren’t eternal? He’s a moral relativist?
....aaaand where does He do that?When he gives explicit permission for people to own other humans as property.
Such deities make their own rules.
The deities decide who hast to follow what rules to remain in their good graces. There’s nothing unique about that in Judaism or Christianity.So the deity is unjust and arbitrary? Then it’s unworthy of worship.
....aaaand where does He do that?
The deities decide who hast to follow what rules to remain in their good graces. There’s nothing unique about that in Judaism or Christianity.
What is or is not just is decided by the deity. I suppose your later comment would depend on how much you value existence.And such a practice would be arbitrary and unjust, thus making the deity unworthy of worship.
What is or is not just is decided by the deity. I suppose your later comment would depend on how much you value existence.
Exactly...Paul said it best...Just my opinion, but...
The entirety of the Law was to demonstrate to man that we are incapable of upholding it. The penalty for breaking the Law (any law no matter how seemingly insignificant) is death, and therefore mankind needs a Savior.
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