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Exclusive: Trump team seeks agency records on border barriers, surveillance

j-mac

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Here we go! Some of the first steps to reversing some of the Obama policy in this country is underway....
 
Here we go! Some of the first steps to reversing some of the Obama policy in this country is underway....
Well, it would be shame if it has to come down to a physical wall. I'd prefer we try everything else first. But there's nothing much more important than border security, so if Trump can do it he gets my credit.

A secure border I think is Trump's biggest draw, and the one I supported him most in.
 
If he does what he says he will do and get us out of NAFTA, there won't be an immigration problem any longer.
 

It sounds like trump means what he says about border security

Which must seem very confusing to anti trumpsters who have been assuring us there will be no wall
 
It sounds like trump means what he says about border security

Which must seem very confusing to anti trumpsters who have been assuring us there will be no wall
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.
 
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.

The conventionsl wisdom is that no politician means what they say and only says what they need to say to get elected

Which is true almost 100% of the time

But trump is a businessman not a politician
 
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.

There's already a law in place to go after employers who hire illegals.
 
President-elect Donald Trump's transition team asked the Department of Homeland Security last month to assess all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.
I thought Mexico was going to pay for it.
 
It sounds like trump means what he says about border security

Which must seem very confusing to anti trumpsters who have been assuring us there will be no wall

Great job creator.
 
Having laws is not the same as enforcing laws.

Agreed, but there's a misconception that no law exists to sanction employers who hire illegals.
 
I don't think he'll have the votes for a wall. More fencing and increased personnel along with more electronic surveillance maybe, but not a wall.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...wall-deportation-plans-face-pushback-from-gop

Personally I'd prefer they just enforce the laws that are already on the books along with a nationwide full e-verify. That would go a long way in removing the incentive for illegals to come here. Once that's done then maybe we can work on some sort of guest worker program like Bush Jr wanted.
 
I thought Mexico was going to pay for it.

Suppose the wall/fence/barrior gets built and illegal border crossings drop to near zero but mexico does not pay for it?

Will that make the anti trumpsters even more angry at trump and cause them to not vote for him in 2020 also?

Oh thats cruel
 

Bloomberg is pro open borders and amnesty so naturally they will give substance to all the republican quislings in the senate



Is that all that the open borders anti trumpsters want?

To save the innocent children of illegal aliens who were brought here illegally by their law-breaking parents?

Of course not

The Dreamers are just big anchor babies who were born too soon
 
Agreed, but there's a misconception that no law exists to sanction employers who hire illegals.

The misconception is that immigration laws are enforced. How, exactly, can we expect about 5K ICE agents to deal with about 12 million immigration law offenders? To put that in some context - NYC has a population of about 8.5 million and the NYPD has about 35K officers.
 

I don't think there is any misconception that immigration laws are enforced.
 

The first step is to stop them at the border so that 10 years from now we are not talking about what to do with 100 million illegal aliens onstead of the low-ball number of 12 million that you used
 
The first step is to stop them at the border so that 10 years from now we are not talking about what to do with 100 million illegal aliens onstead of the low-ball number of 12 million that you used

The problem is that first step will take many years and cost many billions, meanwhile that low number continues to go up.
 
The problem is that first step will take many years and cost many billions, meanwhile that low number continues to go up.

It depends on how good the open border quislings in congress are at obstruction.

Btw: how do you like your new coach?
 

But as everyone is quick to point out trump is not really a true small government conservative, is he?

The more realistic estimate of 20-30 million illegals can be deslt with using expidited proceedures to speed up the process.

But going slow is ok too as long as we are moving in the right direction for the first time in 50 years
 
Well, I'm an anti-Trumpster and he's definitely piqued my interest - so yeah.

I'd like to see him attack it from the employer side too, and mandate E-verify.

The employer and the aiding and abetting by government entities and non profits is the way to go.

Take away the benefits of being here and the problem will self deport.
 
There's already a law in place to go after employers who hire illegals.

That's the thing. The laws are already in place. It's the enforcement that has been the problem.
 
The employer and the aiding and abetting by government entities and non profits is the way to go.

Take away the benefits of being here and the problem will self deport.

Not entirely

What about the anchor babies that illegals have been dumping on our sociery lo these many years?
 
That's the thing. The laws are already in place. It's the enforcement that has been the problem.

I agree with you that we must enforce the laws we have

But trump and trump voters will have to pressure congress to pay more laws and close some of the loopholes in place now
 
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