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Excessive Brutality Backfires for Militant Muslims

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Fox news had a special last night with interviews of a young Hammas Militant, who had converted to Christianity, and left the Middle East. A Shepard Smith Special Report, as I recall.

The young man had become disenchanted with Islam, while in jail in Israel. The reason was because of the fear in the jails, from orders of torture, from his Hammas brothers, at the instructions of Hammas leaders. Torture was ordered on small, and unfounded suspicions of colaboration or some other infractions.

This is similar to the disaffection with Al Qaida by the Iraqis, who felt that Al Qaida was overly brutal treatment of Iraqui's.

False Flag instigations of Shiites against Sunni's was another example of excessive brutality of Muslim Militants might be working against their positive interests.

It seems that Muslim Militants who will use non-state sponsored military operations, also use brutality within tiier ranks to keep order and respect. The excessive brutality used to maintain the Muslim Militant organization has the unintended consequence of alienating public opinion. Public suport, or at least silent tolerance by the public, of covert operations by Muslim Militants is important for the success of Muslim Militant operations.

Social Deterrence is themost effecgtive deterrence, so if those witnessing the prepartion of militant actions, were to take corrective actions, like alerting responsive ahtorities, the operations of the militants, like launching Katusha rockets, would be diminished.




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Propaganda

The son of the Hamas founder said Islam will crumble and fall apart from within in ten years or less.

Now, THAT seems propagandistic.

But I never really thought the Soviet Union would ever fall, either.
 
Says you.

Don't get negative because somebody smartened up and told Hamas to **** off.

i wonder how much was paid.
 
The son of the Hamas founder said Islam will crumble and fall apart from within in ten years or less.

Hahaha, dumbass. I'd laugh in his face if he said infront of me.
Islam will only grow.
 
Hahaha, dumbass. I'd laugh in his face if he said infront of me.
Islam will only grow.


No Islam will fail just like it has for ages.....
 
Hate to agree with something so negative... But I really haven't seen much else to go by.

:doh

Their vision of Islam wont be tolerated by the world no more then the Spanish inquisition would be tolerated today.
 

Oh hey, Faux News!

And what do you expect of the son of an extremist? You think he was educated properly from birth?

Debating with half the people here is useless. The IDF can blow up 30 Palestinian civilians whenever they want, and all they have to do is claim they saw some Hamas members strolling about inside. No one can independently refute these claims since Israel will not allow any journalists in, despite an Israeli Supreme court verdict. And since when is necessary to blow up by F-16 a hospital for 2-3 combatants? Israel has already launched its biggest ground assault since 1967 and it can't covertly take out a few militants to save the lives of the other 300 people taking refuge from there incessant fighting.
 
Why would you assume that what I said was a misquote? ... Start at 2:58.

Because of DarkWizard12's attempt to "correct" you on the quotation. I see that he was incorrect, and I apologize for having spoken incorrectly on that basis.
 
Because of DarkWizard12's attempt to "correct" you on the quotation. I see that he was incorrect, and I apologize for having spoken incorrectly on that basis.

Ok.

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Their vision of Islam wont be tolerated by the world no more then the Spanish inquisition would be tolerated today.

Maybe their version but Islam the religion will grow unless someone is going to attempt to wipe it out ... :roll:
 
Maybe their version but Islam the religion will grow unless someone is going to attempt to wipe it out ... :roll:

Islam and Islamic Militants seem to be two different belief systems.

Once a believer in Islam becomes an Islamic militant. and embraces violence as a means of political expression against the West, it seems that violence is further adopted as a means to keep other Islamic Militants organized,

The tone of the interview with the converted Islamic Militant seems to be in inital stages of development of his thinking.

It seems that gangs and organized crime use violence as a means of policing among thier own elements.

I am not sure why Islamic Militants are not more Christ Like to each other. Forgiving, encouraging, Loving, avoiding violence.



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Islam and Islamic Militants seem to be two different belief systems.

Once a believer in Islam becomes an Islamic militant. and embraces violence as a means of political expression against the West, it seems that violence is further adopted as a means to keep other Islamic Militants organized,

The tone of the interview with the converted Islamic Militant seems to be in inital stages of development of his thinking.

It seems that gangs and organized crime use violence as a means of policing among thier own elements.

I am not sure why Islamic Militants are not more Christ Like to each other. Forgiving, encouraging, Loving, avoiding violence.

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Interesting take on it.

Two different belief systems.

Once a believer in Islam becomes an Islamic militant. and embraces violence as a means of political expression against the West, it seems that violence is further adopted as a means to keep other Islamic Militants organized,

Two different belief systems like sheep and rancher? And it takes only one person or rancher to manage or organize a group of a certain size. And the use of violence is only the most visible organizing or management tool that is used to keep people in line. I've sensed the threat of violence used prior to actual violence being employed in many of the stories of Islamic terrorism from sites such as TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World

I never heard of the term sheep people or "Sheeple" until I came to begin posting at political forums. And for many months I had the feeling that most chat rooms were being invaded by rancher types of Muslim posters. Ranchers, who were supposed to influence thought and control discussion.

I even had the distinct impression that rancher types were gaining mod and admin positions and with their access to private information of the posters that IP addy's and other info was enabling them to get posters to unknowingly download keystroke loggers, trojan horses and other spyware so the ranchers might keep us in line or be aware of our activities online 24/7 and that the forum owners were oblivious to what was happening.
 
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There are apparently two types of "Ranchers."

The son of the Hammas leader on the Video, explained that he was exclusively public converting Rancher. The Son, and his father, rarely engaged in violence themselves, and did not plan any acts of violence. The son, and his father, advocated, in public gatherings, that Muslims convert to Militant Muslims.

There was a secret branch of Hammas, that recruited from the converts recuruited by the Public Advocate section. Actual acts of violence were committed from orders by "Ranchers" within the Hammas militant Muslim movement.


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