Listen, if you’re Nancy Pelosi it makes a lot of sense. Nancy Pelosi is terrified, number one, of her extreme left-wing base; she is captive of that; and number two, the position of Congressional Democrats in this shutdown is objectively unreasonable. In 2013, Chuck Schumer and every Senate Democrat voted in favor of 350 miles of border wall. They have right now shut the government down to stop 234 miles of border wall. I don’t know how you explain that you voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles. That is incoherent.
Ted Cruz, Patriotic American, R-TX.
Incoherent... one word which almost perfectly describes the whacko Left.
Listen, if you’re Nancy Pelosi it makes a lot of sense. Nancy Pelosi is terrified, number one, of her extreme left-wing base; she is captive of that; and number two, the position of Congressional Democrats in this shutdown is objectively unreasonable. In 2013, Chuck Schumer and every Senate Democrat voted in favor of 350 miles of border wall. They have right now shut the government down to stop 234 miles of border wall. I don’t know how you explain that you voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles. That is incoherent.
Ted Cruz, Patriotic American, R-TX.
Incoherent... one word which almost perfectly describes the whacko Left.
Actually they voted for fence not a wall. You know there is a difference, right?
Democrats voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles.This has already been proven as false.
The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was all about 700 miles of fence, later amended to say not every mile required the same type of fencing. Schumer and Clinton both voted for it, however Pelosi and many in the House voted against it. In that bill, and amendment, at no time was a "great great wall."
As with everything about this argument those at the mic are intentionally trying to mislead. At the time the bill was sold as a means to start the Immigration reform debate, which ultimately did not happen anyway to any degree of measurable success. Even when Bush 43 obtained a favorable Congress (until his last Congress.) Once Congress flipped that ship sailed on Immigration reform, never happened and it probably will not now.
At the time they were already arguing between "a fence" and "border security," muddying the waters on what each means. Then Trump comes along and wants a "great great wall" and changes the debate no matter how much Conservatives eat it up as a new line between "a wall" and "border security."
What that idiot Cruz is talking about is a bill that came up before Trump talking about this 234 miles of border where Trump wanted "a wall"... then it became a barrier... then steel barrier... and the useless continued mainly because we already spend much more on "border security" now than we have. Even with a favorable Congress, the Senate could not get the 60 votes for Trump's wants the way the bill was being sold and now we have this mess.
Now we have everyone on both sides of the isle cherry-picking what stats they want to use to pimp success or failure for this of that. The infamous meeting between Trump, Pelosi, and Schumer ended up being a show piece as a means to play chicken with government staying open.
Voting for 234 miles does not have to be linked to open government. No matter how many times Cruz and Trump say otherwise, Trump put his hand down for all to see saying he wanted to shutdown government over this and he did it. It is never going to be a Schumer / Pelosi shutdown, Republicans wanted this and now they have this.
Republicans own this, Cruz saying this is Democrats fault is foolishness.
Democrats voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles.
There are videos of all major Democrats supporting it.
Must suck seeing your presidency and your dream wall go down in flames huh?:2rofll:
Did I miss the government being reopened?
Did Nancy negotiate a deal with Trump after trying to bolt the country for a vacation instead of doing her job?
She didn’t? Or did she fly commercial?
Yes.
A fence is far less effective than a wall. It’s why East Germany built a double wall, replacing its double fence.
It’s why Israel has a wall and not a fence. Fences are good for horses. Less so for human invaders.
Then did the democrats vote in 2013 for a wall or a fence as part of border security?
A fence is insufficient. Hell, you folks say a wall does not work. ROTFLOL... They do... fences, not so well.
Their barrier has been upgraded. Improved. Maximized. Optimized...
... but, I understand... Democrats are reluctant to ensure we have true Border security.
Why not build something tremendously effective. Y’know, build it right the first time? LOL...
Democrats voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles.
There are videos of all major Democrats supporting it.
Amazingly, everything you said is wrong.
A fence is insufficient. Hell, you folks say a wall does not work. ROTFLOL... They do... fences, not so well.
Their barrier has been upgraded. Improved. Maximized. Optimized...
... but, I understand... Democrats are reluctant to ensure we have true Border security.
Why not build something tremendously effective. Y’know, build it right the first time? LOL...
Actually they voted for fence not a wall. You know there is a difference, right?
Listen, if you’re Nancy Pelosi it makes a lot of sense. Nancy Pelosi is terrified, number one, of her extreme left-wing base; she is captive of that; and number two, the position of Congressional Democrats in this shutdown is objectively unreasonable. In 2013, Chuck Schumer and every Senate Democrat voted in favor of 350 miles of border wall. They have right now shut the government down to stop 234 miles of border wall. I don’t know how you explain that you voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles. That is incoherent.
Ted Cruz, Patriotic American, R-TX.
Incoherent... one word which almost perfectly describes the whacko Left.
Drugs come through border points, seaports darlin.A fence is insufficient. Hell, you folks say a wall does not work. ROTFLOL... They do... fences, not so well.
Their barrier has been upgraded. Improved. Maximized. Optimized...
... but, I understand... Democrats are reluctant to ensure we have true Border security.
Why not build something tremendously effective. Y’know, build it right the first time? LOL...
Every Senate Democrat voted for 350 miles of wall in 2013... now... for 234 miles...
^^ What she said.Actually they voted for fence not a wall. You know there is a difference, right?
Actually they voted for fence not a wall. You know there is a difference, right?
Does the left know there is a difference? Would they let Trump have 234 miles of "fence"?
Listen, if you’re Nancy Pelosi it makes a lot of sense. Nancy Pelosi is terrified, number one, of her extreme left-wing base; she is captive of that; and number two, the position of Congressional Democrats in this shutdown is objectively unreasonable. In 2013, Chuck Schumer and every Senate Democrat voted in favor of 350 miles of border wall. They have right now shut the government down to stop 234 miles of border wall. I don’t know how you explain that you voted in favor of 350 miles but you shut the government down to stop 234 miles. That is incoherent.
Ted Cruz, Patriotic American, R-TX.
Incoherent... one word which almost perfectly describes the whacko Left.
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