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Euthanasia

Are you in favor of Euthanasia?

  • Yes, up to the patient to decide

    Votes: 27 71.1%

  • Yes, but with strict prohibitions

    Votes: 7 18.4%

  • No, it is immoral

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, except in the most extreme cases

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Patients shouldn't decide, families should

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other answers

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Total voters
    38
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In Canada:
In February 2015, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled in Carter v. Canada that parts of the Criminal Code would need to change to satisfy the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The parts that prohibited medical assistance in dying would no longer be valid. The Supreme Court gave the government until June 6, 2016, to create a new law.
On March 17, 2021, the Government of Canada announced that changes to Canada’s medical assistance in dying (MAID) law are officially in force. The new law includes changes to eligibility, procedural safeguards, and the framework for the federal government’s data collection and reporting regime.

Medical assistance in dying: Overview - Canada.ca

What medical assistance in dying is, who is eligible, how to make a request, the process, and who can provide medical assistance in dying.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca

In The U.S:
Death with Dignity Acts
The following U.S. jurisdictions have death with dignity statutes:

Elsewhere in the World:
Legal Status in 28 Countries from Australia to Uruguay
euthanasia.procon.org

MAID: Medical Aid in Dying | Pros, Cons, Debate, Arguments, Physician-assisted Suicide, Euthanasia, & Terminal Illness | Britannica

Should medical aid in dying be legal? Learn the pros and cons of the debate.
euthanasia.procon.org euthanasia.procon.org

Question: are you in favor of Euthanasia or Doctor Assisted Suicides or whatever the current term is?
Under what conditions?
 
Absolutely in favor. As far as I know, I'm in pretty good health right now. However, I am grateful that CO has an end of life options, and I have paperwork from Dignitas, should I ever need it.
 
Demon said:
Absolutely in favor. As far as I know, I'm in pretty good health right now. However, I am grateful that CO has an end of life options, and I have paperwork from Dignitas, should I ever need it.
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In Canada I just need a power of attorney, my wife has first option, my son 2nd, both know my wishes.
 
If the end of life is impending and the patient has only suffering left with no quality of life, then they should have the option. Hell, we do it for pets out of love.
 
grip said:
If the end of life is impending and the patient has only suffering left with no quality of life, then they should have the option. Hell, we do it for pets out of love.
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for me the main thing is that each patient has someone they trust to carry out their wishes - via a legal document - in case they become incapacitated and can't express their wishes.
 
I also have a copy of The Final Exit. But I haven't found choices in there that are at all appealing.
 
I voted for #2 because permitting assisted suicide for severely depressed people who could be treated with psychotherapy is immoral. Asking to be euthanized due to a disability also is immoral if you can live with it. A life-threatening physical disease or disability, coupled with a living will if the patient cannot communicate, would be my limitations. I also would require family notification if anyone related to the patient can be contacted before the drug is administered. With those strings attached, I am 100% for euthanasia in hospitals for humans.
 
Demon said:
I also have a copy of The Final Exit. But I haven't found choices in there that are at all appealing.
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well, you could do as my brother has asked for, though I doubt any of us will carry it out, he wants us to strap him to a motorcycle and have him drive off a cliff for that one last thrilling ride.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
I voted for #2 because permitting assisted suicide for severely depressed people who could be treated with psychotherapy is immoral. Asking to be euthanized due to a disability also is immoral if you can live with it. A life-threatening physical disease or disability, coupled with a living will if the patient cannot communicate, would be my limitations. I also would require family notification if anyone related to the patient can be contacted before the drug is administered. With those strings attached, I am 100% for euthanasia in hospitals for humans.
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ok fair enough, but ultimately isn't it the patient's choice? maybe you are advocating for choice #4 where family decides?
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
well, you could do as my brother has asked for, though I doubt any of us will carry it out, he wants us to strap him to a motorcycle and have him drive off a cliff for that one last thrilling ride.
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Lol, I'm so terrified of heights that I'd die of a heart attack just getting close to the cliff. Might be the way to go!
 
Should be up to the patient with agreement from at least two physicians.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Should be up to the patient with agreement from at least two physicians.
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most nowadays who want assisted suicide put it in their wills or power of attorney because of the fear they might become incapacitated and so express their desires how to end life PRIOR to becoming ill.
hate to see their wishes overturned by two doctors because they are morally or ethically bound to deny their end of life wishes.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
I voted for #2 because permitting assisted suicide for severely depressed people who could be treated with psychotherapy is immoral. Asking to be euthanized due to a disability also is immoral if you can live with it. A life-threatening physical disease or disability, coupled with a living will if the patient cannot communicate, would be my limitations. I also would require family notification if anyone related to the patient can be contacted before the drug is administered. With those strings attached, I am 100% for euthanasia in hospitals for humans.
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Being of sound mind (and of age) would be my only stipulation. If someone does not want to live with a disability, I'm certainly not going to be the one to tell them they need to do so.
 
I DO NOT want to lie in bed for weeks/months while I slowly or even quickly dissolve into a mass of incoherent molecules, while my family and friends suffer day in and day out.
I've had an adventurous and wonderful life. The universe was doing just fine before I came along and will do the same after I'm gone.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
most nowadays who want assisted suicide put it in their wills or power of attorney because of the fear they might become incapacitated and so express their desires how to end life PRIOR to becoming ill.
hate to see their wishes overturned by two doctors because they are morally or ethically bound to deny their end of life wishes.
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The thing is, if you don't require 2 doctors to consent, you risk a patient being manipulated by a doctor when that doctor fears a possible malpractice suit.
 
HIP56948 said:
I DO NOT want to lie in bed for weeks/months while I slowly or even quickly dissolve into a mass of incoherent molecules, while my family and friends suffer day in and day out.
I've had an adventurous and wonderful life. The universe was doing just fine before I came along and will do the same after I'm gone.
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And I don't want to spend my family's money on keeping me alive for maybe a few months? Hell no.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
OK fair enough, but ultimately isn't it the patient's choice? maybe you are advocating for choice #4 where family decides?
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No, the patient decides, but the family should know about the decision so they can pay their final respects while the patient is still living. There is a difference between notification and approval.

Have you ever heard of Jack Kevorkian?

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Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia

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This is not what I want. For many conditions, euthanasia should be allowed as a second option. But we can't have more doctors euthanizing people who walk in and say, "Kill me," without any records of life-threatening physical ailments.
 
Demon said:
Being of sound mind (and of age) would be my only stipulation. If someone does not want to live with a disability, I'm certainly not going to be the one to tell them they need to do so.
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When talking about disabilities, we need to consider both the patient's quality of life and doctors being able to treat them. If I was permanently paralyzed, of course I would want to be euthanized. But what if it was just a bruised spinal cord and I could recover the motor functions I lost through physical therapy? That really makes a difference.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
When talking about disabilities, we need to consider both the patient's quality of life and doctors being able to treat them. If I was permanently paralyzed, of course I would want to be euthanized. But what if it was just a bruised spinal cord and I could recover the motor functions I lost through physical therapy? That really makes a difference.
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I disagree. If the patient is adult and sane, they decide if they want to die. (This is all assuming they've seen doctors and discussed outcomes. I doubt anyone would want to die if they were going to recover or get better.)
 
It's challenging to get rid of my religiously-grounded attitudes about ending one's own life. I have visions of people going to hell after death for ending their life one week before it would naturally have ended. And I tell my visions to shut up.

People should have a right not to go through hell before death if they can avoid it with helpful drugs, up to and including death-inducing drugs. It's not my business how they decide to go out.
 
Amelia said:
It's challenging to get rid of my religiously-grounded attitudes about ending one's own life. I have visions of people going to hell after death for ending their life one week before it would naturally have ended. And I tell my visions to shut up.

People should have a right not to go through hell before death if they can avoid it with helpful drugs, up to and including death-inducing drugs. It's not my business how they decide to go out.
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I'm sure it is easier for those of us who don't have (or never had) the religious aspect to consider.
 
I think there are some cases where its justified. If im being eaten up with cancer and the only treatment is as bad or nearly as bad then yes, its time to end it.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
No, the patient decides, but the family should know about the decision so they can pay their final respects while the patient is still living. There is a difference between notification and approval.

Have you ever heard of Jack Kevorkian?

en.wikipedia.org

Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

This is not what I want. For many conditions, euthanasia should be allowed as a second option. But we can't have more doctors euthanizing people who walk in and say, "Kill me," without any records of life-threatening physical ailments.
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it's a tough call all around, but I will still side with the patient's request - provided it is made in writing, prior to getting sick and while he/she is sound frame of mind.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
it's a tough call all around, but I will still side with the patient's request - provided it is made in writing, prior to getting sick and while he/she is sound frame of mind.
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You hit one of my hot buttons, lol. I am rarely this verbal (well, maybe in a weed thread). 'Night.
 
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