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To satisfy the trite angle, I love music.
That's why I never bother with the ESC.
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True Rockers don't turn up at the ESC.Watch the videos, or alternatively, post something better.
ESC rocks!
True Rockers don't turn up at the ESC.
Which performance there ever went on to making a lasting and long lived impressions in the charts? Let alone internationally?
Apart from Abba, a couple of centuries ago, I can't think of anything or anyone off hand.
Granted (I forgot her).It's a matter of opinion.
Celine Dion?
Meet you then if not before :lol:You'll see me next month commenting on the UEFA Cup.
Italy, France, Austria, Bulgaria, Australia... in that order. The rest are awful as usual, the level certainly goes down with each year.
If Russia and Sweden finish at the top 2 again they should end this competition.
I like Australia, Belgium, Italy and France. And I'm with Andy, that Austrian girl gives me the creeps. :shock:
I heard that Ireland didn't make it...
I like Australia, Belgium, Italy and France. And I'm with Andy, that Austrian girl gives me the creeps. :shock:
Austria? Eurgh! That girl looks positively insane.
I quite like Italy and Australia. France's song's pretty god, but it's so similar stylistically to last year's winner that it's almost plagiarism. Talking of which...
I'd never heard of her, but she certainly has stage presence, which a lot of the entrants don't have. I like it.The Italian song is several levels above the rest. The singer is also a more accomplished one than the rest of the singers this year, she has another song which is a huge hit. She's also the prettiest one but that's beside the point.
Terrific voice, but the song's a bit ho-hum and a bit too repetitive.The Australian one is quite decent and I like it, although I wouldn't say it can win, it really can't. But imagine if it did, what would they do about the time difference?
Don't get me wrong, I really like it, but I just think it would be better for something quite different to win it this year - a ballad or a song from a non-pop genre.About France, the singer, Amir Hadad, is an Israeli-French guy who failed at the local version of "American Idol" here several years ago and dropped out at an early stage, it'll be weird to see him actually win it, I agree about it being similar in its style to the previous winner from Sweden but the song is actually quite different, I like it a lot, only Italy has a better entry.
In my opinion, this eurovision was a disaster. All the excitment was taken away by the new system, and the jury screwed Russia and Poland over.
Why do they have this jury in the first place?
In my opinion, this eurovision was a disaster. All the excitment was taken away by the new system, and the jury screwed Russia and Poland over.
Why do they have this jury in the first place?
Nonsense. That was a terrific innovation. The new system really kept the tension going to the very end. I say get rid of the televote, go back to jury-only voting since it was only the juries that seemed to vote according to some kind of musical merit, albeit few of them agreed on the 12-pointers. To have all that eastern European buddy-buddy voting is frankly just an embarrassment for Eurovision.
I'd introduce a new rule next year saying that a country cannot award 12 points to any other country that it has awarded 12 points to more than 3 times in the previous 10 contests. Russia would immediately lose a third of its vote; Sweden, Denmark and Norway would suddenly drop and there'd be no Greek-Cyprus/Turkey-Azerbaijan nonsense.
I didn't agree with the result tonight (bit of an overwrought, over-blown dirge IMHO) but boy, it was a dramatic finale.
Yeah, I know they always had the jury, but it suddenly became very obvious with the new system.They've always had the jury, until 2016 however the televotes from each country were combined with the votes of their repsective jury and the points for the top 10 countries according to the these combined votes were allocated accordingly. (12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1) Since 2016 the jury have their own votes and the televotes are on their own, and points are given twice - once from the jury and once from the televotes, each carrying the same weight.
What tension, we already knew it was Ukraine at the end. And this is not just my opinion, on a Swedish forum I saw hundreds of people complaining.Nonsense. That was a terrific innovation. The new system really kept the tension going to the very end. I say get rid of the televote, go back to jury-only voting since it was only the juries that seemed to vote according to some kind of musical merit, albeit few of them agreed on the 12-pointers. To have all that eastern European buddy-buddy voting is frankly just an embarrassment for Eurovision.
It was exclusively jury voting until the 1990s, and was a much better system IMHO.Yeah, I know they always had the jury, but it suddenly became very obvious with the new system.
Who cares? They came 3rd. For such a mediocre song, I think that was way better than it deserved.I bet they are pretty pissed off in Russia.
We did not know until the Polish televote was announced. Last year we knew Sweden were going to win about a third of the way into the voting.What tension, we already knew it was Ukraine at the end.
Eurovision fans will complain about anything and everything.And this is not just my opinion, on a Swedish forum I saw hundreds of people complaining.
I seriously doubt it.I think buddy voting is mostly a result of similar music taste.
Well, I think you've presented yourself as a Kiwi, a Scandinavian, and a Brit in the past, so how would we know?And I liked the Russian song, so it is not just eastern europeans who like it.
"Didn't agree" will be an understatement in my case. The Ukrainian girl has great vocal abilities and the song wasn't bad at all but overall it didn't really deserve a top 10 spot, let alone win the competition. Italy finishing 17th was just absurd and bizzarre - it was a winner. Russia and Sweden also didn't deserve such high positions, Australia did deserve top 5 maybe but that many points? Seriously? Meh.
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