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This thread will be focused on the Ultras movement in Europe. A phenomenon that explains group thinking irrationality. I can tell you when I travel around Europe and go to games I can see how the atmosphere in a stadium can make you go back to basic tribalism.
*Ultras are a type of association football fans who are renowned for their fanatical support. The term originated in Italy but it is used worldwide to describe predominantly organised fans of association football teams. The behavioural tendency of ultras groups includes their use of flares (primarily in tifo choreography), vocal support in large groups and the displaying of banners at football stadiums, all of which are designed to create an atmosphere which encourages their own team and intimidates the opposing players and their supporters. The frequent use of elaborate displays in stadiums is also common.
Documentaries - The Real Football Factories
Turkey:
Italy:
England:
Russia:
Yes, a while ago. Documentaries are old.Did you watch all of these to the end of each one?
You forgot:
I think they've finally got a handle on it in England.Unfortunately, this kind of behavior has been going on for many, many yrs.
Hooliganism takes it to a whole new level. England did a good job cracking down on the phenomenon. In some areas, if you are a registered hooligan you need to watch the game at the police station.You forgot:
I think they've finally got a handle on it in England.
You mean this on the right:We have our own version over here.
Here we call them "republicans".This thread will be focused on the Ultras movement in Europe. A phenomenon that explains group thinking irrationality. I can tell you when I travel around Europe and go to games I can see how the atmosphere in a stadium can make you go back to basic tribalism.
*Ultras are a type of association football fans who are renowned for their fanatical support. The term originated in Italy but it is used worldwide to describe predominantly organised fans of association football teams. The behavioural tendency of ultras groups includes their use of flares (primarily in tifo choreography), vocal support in large groups and the displaying of banners at football stadiums, all of which are designed to create an atmosphere which encourages their own team and intimidates the opposing players and their supporters. The frequent use of elaborate displays in stadiums is also common.
Documentaries - The Real Football Factories
Turkey:
Italy:
England:
Russia:
If you are referring to the right-wing Proud boys type of violence, that is mostly in the hooligan scene. Russia - Poland - England - Netherlands (underground).Here we call them "republicans".
I think they've finally got a handle on it in England.
You mean this on the right:
and this on the left:
You always speak in code. Just say it Trump fanatics and Antifa Fanatics (if you accept left-wing violence exists).
I just remembered 2 more clubs that are left-wing. I have been to both of their games, in the 1990s when they played a Bucharest team.If you are referring to the right-wing Proud boys type of violence, that is mostly in the hooligan scene. Russia - Poland - England - Netherlands (underground).
Ultras are on both sides and some of the groups are non-political. There are some groups that will kick you out from the stands if you show political messages.
You would probably like these guys:
You mean this on the right:
and this on the left:
You always speak in code. Just say it Trump fanatics and Antifa Fanatics (if you accept left-wing violence exists).
My position is that this Leisure activity.What's your position
I just remembered 2 more clubs that are left-wing. I have been to both of their games, in the 1990s when they played a Bucharest team.
Ajax Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Panathinaikos Athens (Greece) also known for their basketball support
@bluesmoke I gave you the video evidence however I highly doubt your perception will ever accept it. In your mind probably the people in Portland were fighting for justice. In my mind, they are as equally in intelligence as the "great" people that stormed Capitol Hill. The marketing is better I will give you that, the way is dressed, I understand why people buy it. If I am wrong in my perception of you, I do apologize. Good day, and enjoy the videos.
My position is that this Leisure activity.
The first person that brought politics into it is:
We have our own version over here. Not limited to, but touches on, sports in a way more to do with other cultural issues.
and then like every propagandistic you seized with a magnifying glass on an event from England to make a judgment on the progress of the fight against hooliganism. Your approach to questioning people is well known as it was my first interaction with you on this forum.
How do you know if someone is an idealogue? Tell them you have no opinion, they always expect you to either agree or argue with them. Is torture for an ideologue to say you have no opinion or put the equal sign between the sides.
Alright, well I guess I am making progress. I look forward to when you let me know I am officially ok and back to reality.that may be that your head is stuck in the sand, and you're hooked up to the Matrix. At least now you're starting to use words and not video spam.
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