The decision to hold a referendum was made by the Conservative Party and it was stupid. Once put to the people anything could happen and it did.
Not trusting the European Commission (46%) is altogether a different question from wanting to leave.
We don't have illegal immigrants in the EU. We do have asylum seekers who have a right in international law to seek asylum. This has nothing to do with EU membership although hatred of foreigners was used by Nigel Farage to appeal to the xenophobic English working class to stop freedom of movement for workers from Europe. You think the same as them. The irony is that the English have relied on European workers to keep their economy going over several decades. I agree it is not all about money. I believe Brexit was not about money at all. Forgive me, therefore, for not bothering to watch one German MEP claiming that the English will be saving billions and billions. Ha! We will see about that.
Only England had a majority is a narrowly decided advisory f-referendum blighted by fraud, dark financing, and Russian interference in a chilling foretaste of Trump's installation. Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland voted overwhelmingly to remain. The Disunited Kingdom is falling apart.
The Daily Mail supported Hitler and fascist in the UK before the war.. hence they are and always will be linked to the Nazis. That the Daily Mail was not closed after the war shows how little justice there was in the UK against its own Nazi and fascist movements. News of the World was punished harder for spying on a dead girl, than a newspaper that openly supported mass murderers....
Only partial correct. The idea of modern eugenics, a fundamental part of Nazi ideology based on racial purity, was in fact "founded" in the UK and taken up seriously in the US, Sweden and Germany. So what is laughable is you attempt to paint mainland Europe as the sole culprit of the Nazi horrors... Churchill was among many things, a racist anti-Semite.. and let millions starve to death in India during the war... but hey they were only brown people.
It did not decide anything.. it was forced. Primarily by the US. Same goes for France. Also the colonies were getting too expensive to maintain and were a burden on the UK economy by the end of WW1
Of course no.
Oh boy.... The UK is in the nr. 1 spot of invading countries. It invented the concentration camp and committed many war crimes and crimes against humanity over its history and that includes some as late as the 1960s and 1970s.
Oh here the UK are near the top.. proud of their history and some still believe the UK matters...
Continue below
The English Conservatives certainly do not bow to the 48% of citizens who voted to remain, including the Scottish and Irish who voted with majorities to remain....
You don't seem capable of understanding that by taking on the EU, the UK has shown without doubt that the British do not bow to anyone, unlike the member states of the EU.
The English Conservatives certainly do not bow to the 48% of citizens who voted to remain, including the Scottish and Irish who voted with majorities to remain.
I wouldn't kick Britain out of the EU common market.
Someday Britain will rejoin the EU, I think. Letting them remain in the common market will speed this up.
Unfortunately, the Welsh vote reflected the close result of the four nations aggregated (52½% in favor of leave and 47½% remain). The English Tories were crazy to leave the EU on such a small majority where the Scottish and Irish overwhelmingly voted to remain, as you said. It shows the utter contempt the English Conservatives have for half the nations which make up their so-called union.
The Daily Mail supported Hitler and fascist in the UK before the war.. hence they are and always will be linked to the Nazis. That the Daily Mail was not closed after the war shows how little justice there was in the UK against its own Nazi and fascist movements. News of the World was punished harder for spying on a dead girl, than a newspaper that openly supported mass murderers....
Only partial correct. The idea of modern eugenics, a fundamental part of Nazi ideology based on racial purity, was in fact "founded" in the UK and taken up seriously in the US, Sweden and Germany. So what is laughable is you attempt to paint mainland Europe as the sole culprit of the Nazi horrors... Churchill was among many things, a racist anti-Semite.. and let millions starve to death in India during the war... but hey they were only brown people.
It did not decide anything.. it was forced. Primarily by the US. Same goes for France. Also the colonies were getting too expensive to maintain and were a burden on the UK economy by the end of WW1
Of course no.
Oh boy.... The UK is in the nr. 1 spot of invading countries. It invented the concentration camp and committed many war crimes and crimes against humanity over its history and that includes some as late as the 1960s and 1970s.
Oh here the UK are near the top.. proud of their history and some still believe the UK matters...
Quit with the American right-wing bias in your choice of resources such as the Cato Institute. Please have the decency not to include a progressive humanistic country like New Zealand in the same category as racist Australia. Australians ought to hang their heads in shame for the way their government policy of transferring asylum seekers Papua New Guinea and Nauru. "... Australia has gone from being a country that once welcomed newcomers to a world leader in treating refugees with brazen cruelty." (Human Rights Watch)
Seven Years of Suffering for Australia’s Asylum Seekers, Refugees | Human Rights Watch
European Union experts expressed fears the Brexit vote would result in further internal division once the UK stopped playing the role of moderator between the members states and Brussels. The fierce opposition of some members to the coronavirus rescue package the European Commission proposed to help ailing countries foreshadows further splintering to come, according to Erik Kirschbaum.
EU worst Brexit fears come true as Brussels warned 'lasting scars' to spark more rebellion | World | NewsWorldabcnews | Worldabcnews
The English working class are notoriously xenophobic.What the Conservatives did do was keep their promise to the British people. This promise was to honour the result of the EU referendum.
In your haste to insult the British people and call them daft, dopey and other childish names, it may have escaped your notice that UK voters considerably increased their support for the Conservatives at the last election.....the Tories winning a massive 48 new seats in parliament.The main opposition Labour party lost 60 seats.
This was an incredibly positive endorsement for Boris, the Tories and Brexit.
No doubt you spat your dummy (Google is your friend) when you heard that result.
Only England had a majority is a narrowly decided advisory f-referendum blighted by fraud, dark financing, and Russian interference in a chilling foretaste of Trump's installation. Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland voted overwhelmingly to remain. The Disunited Kingdom is falling apart.
The English working class are notoriously xenophobic.
The English working class are notoriously xenophobic.
It may happen but certainly not if the UK again has to accept giving up control over its borders.
The massive influx of unskilled and semi skilled workers from the EU resulted in higher property rentals, lower wage rates for these classes of employment as well as a host of other disadvantages, too numerous to mention.
The incidents of terrorism by Islamic terrorists entering the UK from the EU did not help either.
The EU refused to allow the UK to control its borders and has now paid the price for this intransigence.
As an Australian, I hope it doesn't happen as I've already benefited personally from Brexit.
Your nonsense talk about "British colonial racism" is rather amusing coming from someone who is part of the EU, whose largest and most powerful member attempted to enslave the rest of Europe in recent times. I wonder if you really know what the term "hypocrite" means.
I guess that your obvious hatred for the "English" is blinding you to your own hypocrisy.
'EU immigration is way down, but non EU immigration is wayyyyy up'
Lol! This is really getting funny now. This is exactly why Brits wanted Brexit. Again, you don't seem capable of understanding Brexit. Brits want to be able to choose which immigrants come into their country. You obviously are ignorant of the fact that the EU is an area of free movement.
You obviously know little about negotiations. As much as I hope they are dead and a no deal results, I know that brinkmanship is taking place (Google the word). The EU has too much to lose by not doing a free trade deal with the UK. It has to weigh up the loss to Germany of losing massive amounts of motor vehicle sales which will cripple an industry already suffering against giving the UK a deal which is so good that other EU members will want to lose. The EU is in a difficult position and will weaken has it has done every few months since the UK voted to leave the EU.
Again, absolutely no intelligent understanding whatsoever on your part. The UK does NOT want to put tariffs on German cars. But it will not put tariffs on cars from Asia which are currently subject to EU import tariffs. This will affect German car sales to some degree but a no deal may devastate the German car industry. German car makers have been predicting this disaster for years:
You don't seem capable of understanding that by taking on the EU, the UK has shown without doubt that the British do not bow to anyone, unlike the member states of the EU.
There is so much factually incorrect anti British nonsense in your post. Your hatred of the British is obviously blinding you to any reasonable thought.
The owners of the Daily Mail, like many people around the world, not just in Britain, were understandably impressed with the way Hitler revitalised the German economy when first in office. When Hitler started on his path of expansionism and persecution of Jewish people, any support dwindled. There is not a single British newspaper, including the Daily Mail, which did not support the British war effort.
If you took time to actually check the facts, you will find that the Daily Mail ended its support for anyone connected with fascism in 1934. Many years before fascist aggression in Europe caused Britain to go to war against the Nazis and Mussolini.
Your rant about the British "founding" fascism is so absurd that it is amusing and not really deserving of my time to refute. If you don't know that the British were prime movers in destroying the fascist regimes in Europe and hundreds of thousands of British soldiers and civilians died doing so, then I really can't help you. Your obvious hatred of the British is blinding you to any intelligent opinion.
If you care to read up on WW2, you will find that it is the Germans (now EU members) who murdered many millions of people in concentration camps built with the express purpose of murdering them. It was British soldiers and their allies who defeated them.
It was members of Balkan states (some now EU members) who were committing genocide quite recently. It was British soldiers and their allies who helped stop this.
It was the French (now EU members) that in the nineteenth century started invading other European nations. It was British soldiers and their allies who defeated them.
It was the Belgians (now EU members) who committed genocide in the former Belgian Congo.
Daily Mail supported Hitler. The owner was a personal friend of Mussolini and Hitler.
Founding eugenics.. never said anything about fascism.
You deny that the Brits did not put hundreds of thousands of Boers in concentration camps?
Er, yea thats why the British use to own large parts of France?
So you are denying the deliberate starvation of millions of Indians during WW2? The various massacres in India by the British? We can keep doing this dance... I dont deny any of the Belgian, French, German or other countries dark past.. why do you deny the British one?
Err okay...
Daily Mail supported Hitler. The owner was a personal friend of Mussolini and Hitler. The Daily Mail opposed the arrival of Jewish refugees to the UK up to the start of the war. Of course British newspapers supporte the war.. there was heavy control of the media by Churchill during the war.
LOL yea it officially ended the public support of Mosley, and yet opposed the arrival of Jewish refugees... hmmmz.
Founding eugenics.. never said anything about fascism.
Basic history.. so what? You deny that the Brits did not put hundreds of thousands of Boers in concentration camps?
And quite recently, the UK forced out the inhabitants of the Chagos islands so that they could let the Americans build a military base.
Er, yea thats why the British use to own large parts of France?
So you are denying the deliberate starvation of millions of Indians during WW2? The various massacres in India by the British? We can keep doing this dance... I dont deny any of the Belgian, French, German or other countries dark past.. why do you deny the British one?
The incidents of terrorism by Islamic terrorists entering the UK from the EU did not help either.
The failure of the English to build affordable and social housing allowed greedy landlords to exploit the lack of investment. What construction did take place relied heavily on Polish laborers. The hospitals and nursing homes in England rely heavily on immigrants, not only doctors and nurses but also low wage cleaners, porters, and kitchen staff. England not only benefits from European Union workers but also from the Philippines and Africa. It is difficult to imagine how England will manage if their government halts immigration. Seasonal crops will rot unpicked by casual workers from Romania.
There are more than a million Pakistanis and those of Pakistani origin alone in England. Because England controls its own policy on immigration from outside the EU, there are many Muslims there from various Asian and African countries. English colonial rule opened England to Muslim immigration over past generations. Islamist terrorism in England is home-grown and has nothing to do with your ignorant slur against the European Union. For example, last year's London Bridge killer, Usman Khan, was Pakistani. In 2018 Salih Khater from Sudan was later convicted of two charges of attempted murder after he plowed his Ford Fiesta into a pedestrian and a group of cyclists who had stopped at a red light. In 2017 an improvised explosive device planted by Iraqi-born Ahmed Hassan was detonated on a packed London Tube train during the morning rush hour, injuring 22 people. In 2017 three terrorists, Rachid Redouane, Khuram Butt and Youssef Zaghba drove a van into pedestrians on London Bridge, killing eight. They were not from the European Union; Youssef Zaghba was a Moroccan, Khuram Butt was Pakistani-born, and Rachid Redouane was from Barking, England. Etc., etc. That you are attempting to attribute Islamist attacks in England as being the fault of EU membership shows what a nasty piece of work you are making yourself out to be.
I was studying in the UK at the time of the 7/7 attacks in London. All 7/7 terrorists were domestic in nature and there have been no incidents associated with Islamic terrorists from other EU countries since then. The main benefit of Brexit is that it weakens the EU as an institution with the exit of the core member state. For the working class, there will be more odd jobs left.
All of the lowest working classes are in every country I have been to.
Obviously, the singling out of the "English" as being Xenophobic was just a rather pathetic attempt to throw mud at the "English" by an EU citizen, obviously bitter and angry because the "English" have decided to no longer be part of the EU.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?