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marriage <> sex
Not according to the bible
The Bible doesn't "actually say" that "sex is marriage" or that "marriage is sex"
I don't think splitting hairs is what the spirit of the passages holds....You may disagree, but that's my opinion.
Which is why the Episcopalians allow SSM :roll:
Ikari said:Is it?
Some sects, or at least this one, doesn't seem to agree.
Are they not Christian then? Which Christian is the most Christian of all the Christians? Which one speaks the truth about the Bible?
It was NB who argued about what the Bible "actually says". I merely pointed out that the Bible does not "actually say" anything about same sex marriage.
You are free to interpret biblical passages however you want to. But that doesn't mean the bible "actually says" those things.
The ones that don't omit.
:shrug: the Bible does. There isn't really a "most Christian of all the Christians", though it is possible for some doctrine to be more accurate than others.
Thou shall not kill has traditionally meant murder as there are plenty of passages supporting killing in self defense. What Im talking about is if a group of self proclaimed Christians went out and murdered people in cold blood specifically because they claimed no where in the Bible is murdering/killing condemned. Would your opinion be that they are still Christians who just have a different view of the Bible?
But then there shouldn't be the wide diversity of Christian sect that we see
If it's just the Bible, there seems, at least you are implying that, there is but one interpretation that is "right". So which sect of Christian is right? Why are the others wrong?
Which are? Whatever ones agree with you? Or is there a list of "correct Christians" out there?
Easier to list the ones that support SSM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bless..._to_same-sex_union_and.2For_same-sex_marriage
The Episcopalian Church also supports abortion rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_abortion#The_Episcopal_Church
See a pattern here?
No - they do that because they decided to forego the text.
there is no text in the Bible that says they should forbid SSM
there is no text in the Bible that says they should forbid SSM
That is not fully correct - the Bible says instead that they should forbid active and unrepentant homosexuals, of which those seeking SSM arrangements would be a subset, and the Bible instead tells them what they should accept as far as Marriage is concerned - same sex couples not being on that list.
Old Testament clearly does not see abortion as murder
No, the biblical text does not actually say any of that
That is incorrect. The Old Testament does not have a word for Abortion, but it does have a word for Miscarry. There is no instance of someone willfully miscarrying their own child, in the OT, and so nothing is listed for or against it. The closest we have is that the OT states that if a man harms a pregnant woman so as to cause a premature birth, and lasting harm (the death of the child or the death of the woman) comes from it, he would pay for that with his life.
You think that the Biblical text does not forbid homosexual conduct, or describe what marriage is supposed to be?
The Bible does not actually say what you claim it says.
:shrug: in fact it does. The OT and the NT both describe marriage and how it is to function, and the OT and the NT both forbid homosexual activity.
No, if the mother dies, the penalty is death. But if the unborn child dies, the penalty is a fine.
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