Elon Musk: "I just can't stand it anymore"

[dmpi]

I kind of agree with Musk. Some of the spending seems way out there and over the top. The golden dome is one example. No tax on overtime is another one. And the SALT deduction seems mighty high.

 

[Visbek]

This is precisely what democrats have been saying every day since republicans came out with their budget bill.

Not really.

Elmo is not upset that this bill gives huge tax cuts to plutocrats.

He's mad that:
- He is no longer welcome at court
- They cut an EV subsidy
- They are not cutting spending enough (even though his own attempts to cut spending failed spectacularly)

Don't kid yourself. Don't think he has done a 180 because he's sniping at Dear Leader and Republicans via social media. His views have not changed one bit. He's still a drug-addled, narcissistic, homophobic, transphobic, white supremacist who does not give any ****s about the environment or Americans.

 

[dmpi]

Not really.

Elmo is not upset that this bill gives huge tax cuts to plutocrats.

He's mad that:
- He is no longer welcome at court
- They cut an EV subsidy
- They are not cutting spending enough (even though his own attempts to cut spending failed spectacularly)

Don't kid yourself. Don't think he has done a 180 because he's sniping at Dear Leader and Republicans via social media. His views have not changed one bit. He's still a drug-addled, narcissistic, homophobic, transphobic, white supremacist who does not give any ****s about the environment or Americans.

It's a lot simpler than that. Elon and his team dedicated a few months of their life to cut government waste and abuse, saving a few million here and there, but all that work can be quickly neutralized by excessive spending. If you take your job seriously, how would you like to have it instantly rendered unless, null and void?

 

[element94]

Watch Trumpers suddenly turn against their #2 idol.

They're just waiting for the collection of... words?... coming from dear leader.

 

[BabaVoss]

It's a lot simpler than that. Elon and his team dedicated a few months of their life to cut government waste and abuse,

It they didn't even do that. They just cut and cut. No real thought of efficiency improvement. They just slashed and burned.

Improving efficiency takes work, study, and coordinated effort. They didn't do any of that.

 

[Mr Person]

It's a lot simpler than that. Elon and his team dedicated a few months of their life to cut government waste and abuse, saving a few million here and there,

It they didn't even do that. They just cut and cut. No real thought of efficiency improvement. They just slashed and burned.

Improving efficiency takes work, study, and coordinated effort. They didn't do any of that.

Not only that, but the downstream costs of Musks's slash and burn are going to be far greater.

It's so ****ing shortsighted for MAGAs to focus solely on government spending without looking at what other costs the cuts create. Musk saves some pennies by trashing NOAA. As a result, people will have less warning and less accurate warning about hurricanes and tornados. They won't evacuate in time. They won't protect their property enough. We'll see even more death and destruction than usual. That will create real costs that will have to be paid.

But the MAGA? The MAGA can't think past "but the federal balance sheet is lower durrrrrrrr!". Same shit no matter the example.

(Of course, it doesn't even get there because Trump wants military spending up by another $115,000,000,000 or so for no identified reason other than perhaps feeling vicariously tough himself)



MAGA's only setting is stupid evil.

 

[Callen]

I don't understand how Trumpers were so Gung Ho on Musk cutting spending yet can be equalled Gung Ho on massive spending.

 

[Kelby]

I don't understand how Trumpers were so Gung Ho on Musk cutting spending yet can be equalled Gung Ho on massive spending.

Because you're not to go further than accepting that it's a "Big Beautiful Bill!"

 

[NuffSaid]

Or maybe he really wanted to find and eliminate fraud, waste, and abuse ...

But your idol and his merry band of ass kissers in Congress want the opposite.

 

[Craig234]

 

[Craig234]

He's just trying to get some cred because he pissed off his Tesla customer base.

I suspect the same, and it seems, and I prefer, it won't work. Though if he could somehow hamper trump that is good.

 

[Craig234]

Because you're not to go further than accepting that it's a "Big Beautiful Bill!"

Two options for more accurate names: Big oligarchy bill, and Class-warfare bill.

 

[Michael Cole]

That was Musk's only move left after his personal interests starting taking a hit. This shows that not only Musk, but Trump can be manipulated through financial attacks. Want MAGA to vote a certain way, pressure MAGA leaders financially. Greed is what makes them tick.

Agreed. The damage is deep. If Musk can dig himself out of the hole and regain his customer base, then I will applaud his skill. I don't know if he has it in him.

 

[Visbek]

I don't understand how Trumpers were so Gung Ho on Musk cutting spending yet can be equalled Gung Ho on massive spending.

They stopped caring about consistency, or principles, or accusations of hypocrisy, a long time ago.

 

[BabaVoss]

Agreed. The damage is deep. If Musk can dig himself out of the hole and regain his customer base, then I will applaud his skill. I don't know if he has it in him.

Trump is not the brightest bulb, but he played Musk beautifully.
He grabbed close to $300M of Musk's money and that got him elected.
Trump used him to get a lot of attention about DOGE, which was a complete failure.
Trumpers will never accept that reality though.

 

[Gaius46]

I think Elon Musk is totally pissed off that he was let go, and pushed out of the White House. I think he had grander plans for his future inside the US government. If Trump had kept him on, does anyone believe he would have come out ranting against the spending budget bill? Hell no.

If I'm not mistaken the rules that they used to bring Musk in required that he leave by 5/31.

 

[BabaVoss]

If I'm not mistaken the rules that they used to bring Musk in required that he leave by 5/31.

The Trump "administration" is not known for following rules.

 

[Michael Cole]

If I'm not mistaken the rules that they used to bring Musk in required that he leave by 5/31.

This type of power given to an unelected advisor is unprecedented, so the rules aren't very clear. Unless there's a rule preventing reappointment and extension, then Musk could have been reappointed and his term extended. But like I said, this is unprecedented. It's not like I can compare this to what happened last time, so I have no idea what the "rules" dictate.

 

[Felis Leo]

I love that what makes this Bill an abomination to a man like Elon Musk is not the fact that it lets AI companies run amok across the United States, or allows Palantir to create a KGB-style dossier on every single citizen in the United States, or cuts Medicaid for the impoverished, but instead that it does not cut enough.

He might as well have said "My problem with the bill is that I came into government to hurt people, and while it hurts a ton of poor people, it just does not hurt enough of them."

I hope this bill sinks, but it almost certainly is not going to.

 

[element94]

The righteous truth from L.O'D.

 

[element94]

Two options for more accurate names: Big oligarchy bill, and Class-warfare bill.

It's a great big eff you to America in Trump's final days. All because he could never quite cut it as legit or crook. Someone has to pay along with Don, so it may as well be the entire country. There's also Trump's four decade (or more) long crime spree being revealed, actually having to sit through a criminal conviction, and that was the last straw.
So what will the consequences for all this be for revealing it to the people of the United States and the rest of the world? I expect full annihilation from within, and absconding with as much of the U.S. wealth as humanly possible (probably to Russia). That's his plan anyway, more or less.

 

[reflechissez]

Why would Trump be part of a plan to tank his own bill? I don't like or trust Musk at all but I do think he may be totally ticked at Trump's hypocrisy in yapping about cutting government spending while greatly expanding it especially since his involvement tanked his business.

We still have no detailed report on what money will be "saved" by doge. One guy got to make the decisions.

 

[reflechissez]

But this does point to his interest in limiting government costs, regardless if he had a clue on how to

Seriously?

 

[bomberfox]

Of course, the old enemy's enemy's friend thing doesn't hold here. Elon is worse than the GOP. Being a rich sociopath aka Big-L Libertarian , he wants to gut state and federal government almost entirely so that the federal government exists to provide an army to protect the land his ventures are based on, provide roads and infrastructure his ventures use, etc., but otherwise doesn't attempt to do anything for individuals.

After all, being the world's richest man, he'd still come out on top of any financial shitstorm and find himself in a position to fill the vacuum left by departed government (the real P2025 plan).

It would be a replacement of formal constitutional government with government by corporate overlord of rich Big-L Libertarians, who only really wanted to bring America's reinterpretation of government by Somoli warlord.




(And this is why Bong Circle Libertarianism is so stupid. That refers to the Big-L Libertarianism of little people, who somehow don't understand that bigger movers will fill any gap receding government leaves. They don't get that if they receive what they're asking, their choices would be: (A) Somoli warlordism or (B) an America retinterpretation of it.

Or Epstein Island.

 

[bomberfox]

I love that what makes this Bill an abomination to a man like Elon Musk is not the fact that it lets AI companies run amok across the United States, or allows Palantir to create a KGB-style dossier on every single citizen in the United States, or cuts Medicaid for the impoverished, but instead that it does not cut enough.

He might as well have said "My problem with the bill is that I came into government to hurt people, and while it hurts a ton of poor people, it just does not hurt enough of them."

I hope this bill sinks, but it almost certainly is not going to.

I mean the amount of power wasted and pollution produced for Musk’s Grok is insane. Theres no way to justify this on any efficiency grounds.