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Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say

Hamish Howl said:
Speaking of which, here's the fat **** saying he won't lift a finger if Russia attacks NATO.

apnews.com

Trump says whether he'll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee 'depends on your definition'

President Donald Trump injected some some uncertainty over whether the U.S. would abide by the mutual defense guarantees outlined in the NATO treaty as he headed to its summit.
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To the ACTUAL members of NATO, I suggest you forget America and start concentrating on your joint capabilities. A few good starting options:

1. Germany, UK, and France should stop quibbling over every little detail of every tiny issue.

2. Hungary should be stripped of its EU and NATO votes.

3. Canada should start working on it's own aviation again, like back in the good old days.
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I will pass that along to world leaders when I see them next.

But we do have R&D in aviation. It's called Bombardier where they have three models of executive jets. A subsidiary is working on jet propelled boats.

No thanks, the Avro Arrow was both an engineering and political disaster. We don't need any more aviation "experts" draining the public purse. We sell plenty of jets.

PS - why the **** would we go down the Avro Arrow road again. We OWN the snow mobile world and are advancing markedly on other, more invasive toys for rich kids.

Bombardier has a boat coming out and their trying helicopters again.
 
trixare4kids said:
I'm going with this....... you do you. ;)

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What evidence of joes crime ring ever came from Hunters laptop? Oh yeah they busted hunter on buying and gun and published some dick pics. The laptop was an absolute flop and used as Republican misinformation twelve ways from Sunday. You sure you really wanna die on that hill? Yeah you probably do.
 
TangoNoCash said:
What evidence of joes crime ring ever came from Hunters laptop? Oh yeah they busted hunter on buying and gun and published some dick pics. The laptop was an absolute flop and used as Republican misinformation twelve ways from Sunday. You sure you really wanna die on that hill? Yeah you probably do.
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Do we HAVE to go back to Hunter Biden's Laptop?

It was a non story to begin with, a cheap, low class attempt at a diversion exposing the ultimate stupidity of the American right in its wrongness.
 
trixare4kids said:
I'm going with this....... you do you. ;)

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Ahh, see, I said y'all would break out the "fake news" narrative to make excuses for Dear Leader, and you didn't disappoint.

Might be time to get better propaganda talking orders.
 
trixare4kids said:
I'm going with this....... you do you. ;)

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You might want to read it a bit closer. Nowhere does she say the report doesn't exist. All she says is that the assessment - from an executive branch agency no less - is "flat out wrong." Where she got evidence of that aside from "knowing what 14 30,000 pound bombs would do" is anyone's guess.
 
Fletch said:
If they are all talking to the same anonymous source/sources they multiple reports on the same story means nothing. I would have thought you guys would know this by now.
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Leavitt did not deny that that was what the report said. She just claimed, without evidence, that it is wrong
 
Fletch said:
If they are all talking to the same anonymous source/sources then multiple reports on the same story means nothing. I would have thought you guys would know this by now.
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Guess she had those "same sources".
 
anatta said:
whatever the type rocks they have been hit with lots of explosives. Chances are ( and you can see from the visible photo) rocks have been moved around / possible striation fractures -whatever.

So Iran is going to go in there with heavy earth moving equipment to dig out the looser material, but rely on sidewalls that have been hit numerous times with high explosives? Good luck with that. Anyhow they dont have the money to do so. their infrastructure is a mess, they are running out of ballistic missiles. All more important then a nuke program.

Also many scientists killed. where do they replace that knowledge? If by some miracle they manage to overcome all that (impossible) then we just go in and whack-a-mole again.. Iran isn't stupid. if it did anything it would try to repair Hezbollah and get the Houthis to start up again/ I dont thenk they can do even that -and again if they did Israel would 'degrade' them again
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So.

No source.
 
redbeer said:
More than likely a liberal illegally leaked it to CNN, plus how does anyone really know to date? Just more of the same ole......lefties causing problems.
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Don't you think both Israel and the US have assets on the ground in Iran to judge the effectiveness of the air strike? I have no idea how CNN got the story, but I have little doubt it is more accurate than trump's "everything was obliterated" nonsense,
 
Fearandloathing said:
Do we HAVE to go back to Hunter Biden's Laptop?

It was a non story to begin with, a cheap, low class attempt at a diversion exposing the ultimate stupidity of the American right in its wrongness.
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Yes apparently this report is on par with Hunter Biden’s laptop. Just click your heels three times and wish real hard. Yes it’s terribly funny.
 
Gaius46 said:
Leavitt did not deny that that was what the report said. She just claimed, without evidence, that it is wrong
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Except I wasnt commenting on that. Not sure we could know with certainty how much damage occurred in a secret underground facility we have no ability to gain access to, but if our strongest bombs failed to penetrate the site, then we may need to build a bigger bomb.
 
redbeer said:
I'm a Trump supporter......you didn't see me yesterday, did you? Does it make you angry that Trump possibly could have done something right and correct? Is it an impossible thing to ever accept?
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Yes.

For all we know he bombed a car lot.

His word is of zero value. He lies more than he tells the truth. He has never been even remotely honest with the American people.

Frankly I doubt he knows the difference between bullshit and chicken shit, he's filled with both!
 
Airyaman said:


Guess she had those "same sources".
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Yes. Its entirely possible that its the same source. But it is weird how gleeful you libs are to learn that our attempts to knock out Irans nuclear ambitions might not have worked as well as we hoped. Did you also cheer Carters failed raid to free the hostages back in 1980?
 
Fletch said:
Yes. Its entirely possible that its the same source. But it is weird how gleeful you libs are to learn that our attempts to knock out Irans nuclear ambitions might not have worked as well as we hoped. I did you also cheer Carters failed raid to free the hostages back in 1980?
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You can't see it's mockery of Trump and Leavitt?
 
Hamish Howl said:
So.

No source.
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and no refutation^
When I dug heavy into Libya Operation Inherent Resolve western sources were garbage. Operation Enduring Freedom
was displayed as a wonderful exercise in taking out the dictator. Hillary's "I came I saw he died" was the typical arrogance

Nobody thought to ask what was the evidence Qadaffi was shelling his own people ( he wasn't)..Sourcing gives you info you don't have -
but you still got to put it together
 
reinaert said:
You can't see it's mockery of Trump and Leavitt?
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Its all just hate and snark, I get that. Its all you guys ever do. But you would think you would want the American military to be successful when it acts. But no, you hate trump more than you love America
 
Pyrite said:

...The U.S. used massive bunker-buster bombs on Saturday to target three of Iran's key nuclear facilities, including one called Fordo, built deep inside a mountain.

Speaking at the White House after those strikes, Trump called the strikes a "spectacular military success."

"Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated," he said....



Trump's grandiosity makes him (and the USA) look ridiculous.
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If Trump is saying "spectacular military success."


...then its guaranteed a failure.

The man has never told the truth, even by accident
 
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