CaptinSarcastic
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Very well. I believe 15 year olds are old enough to consent to both taking contraceptives and having sex. I believe the two are related, and I would be curios to see somebody argue how a 15 year old is old enough to consent to one but not the other.
then i will ask a simple question, when did the executive branch of government FDA get authority to tell citizens, that 15 yr old girl will be given access to drugs over the objections of parents, i see not authority in the constitution.
I believe that 15 year olds are going to have sex whether society says they are old enough to consent or not, ergo, even though society says they shouldn't, since they will, contraceptives should not be refused to them. It's not complicated.
Do you think they won't have sex if they are refused all contraceptives, or do you think they will just wildly less desirable consequences?
weird i didnt claim they have that powere
and why doesnt your example apply to to every store everywhere for everybody not 18?
are you suggesting that nobody under the age of 18 should be allowed to buy anything without parental consent?
weird are you just going to dodge my questionmy question is this the FDA is run by bureaucrats ,not by elected officials...(accountable people), when did they receive any authority under our Constitution to issue orders to the people and say , 15 yr old girl can receive this drug.....above the objections of a parent?
if a parent wishes the child to have the drug, that is fine, but government issuing an order...that is not constitutional.....government has no authority over the people in the u.s. constitution.
my question is this the FDA is run by bureaucrats ,not by elected officials...(accountable people), when did they receive any authority under our Constitution to issue orders to the people and say , 15 yr old girl can receive this drug.....above the objections of a parent?
if a parnet wishes the child to have the drug, that is fine, but government issuing an order...that is not constitutional.....government has no authority over the people in the u.s. constitution.
weird are you just going to dodge my question
Iam not familiar with this issue at all so you will have to fill me and answer my question.
does the law specifically say the child must be given the drug if its asked for even against parents will and against non-consent?
I think most parents would prefer dealing with the use of birth control by their 15 year old than dealing with their 15 year old becoming a parent............Those that haven't lost sight of all logic and proportion, that is......................
from what i listened to today, the news stated the FDA ordered that this drug be made available to 15 yr olds.
the executive branch has no power to issue orders to the people in the u.s.. constitution..that what be a dictatorship.
I believe "adults" will have sex with "children" regardless of whether society says they should or not, and since they will, we shouldn't imprison them. It's not complicated.
Nope, I think teens will continue to have sex, with other teens and with adults. And they should be allowed to take contraceptives as well.
So the easy way out is to let them get pregnant? *confused*
What does your question have to do with OTC emergency contraception?
If it's OTC, they don't need to see a doctor and thus no insurance is required.
Maybe a better policy then would be to let her get the morning after pill, but the pharmacist has to place a call to the legal guardian?
I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of preventing an unwanted pregnancy. The more bureaucracy means the less time there is to implement the MAP.
I don't think this question is relevant given that they ARE having sex and thus they are exposing themselves to the potential consequences. It only makes sense to give them access to some tools to deal with those consequences as well.
Girls are hitting puberty more and more early as time passes, likely because of the synthetic estrogens now in all the packaged and processed food people are eating. We're going to have to start getting used to the fact that girls are going to start being sexually active younger and younger because of our society's lifestyle.
If we stop imprisoning adults who have sex with children, we'll just beat them to death in the streets.
In the meantime, HELL NO!
Children may not be old enough to consent, and they may have sex anyway, but adults are expected to know better and WILL be punished accordingly.
YEs, we must punish children who have sex!!!
Thanks for demonstrating why parents should not be informed
That's a logical contradiction. If it's ok for them to have sex then it shouldn't matter who they are having sex with. If it's not ok, then it shouldn't matter either. In either case, it shouldn't matter.
I think most parents would prefer dealing with the use of birth control by their 15 year old than dealing with their 15 year old becoming a parent............Those that haven't lost sight of all logic and proportion, that is......................
i have no problem with the child, and parent discussing the issue and both deciding what is best.
but government!......it has no authority to issue orders, and go above the heads of parents.
Guess what? It does matter. If you do it, you'll get arrested, and very FEW people are going to cry for you. Get over it!
The sky is blue.
So you dont like that the government told the FDA what to do? well at times i could agree with that, at times id be fine with it :shrug:
Actually, the OP talks about the FDA basically accepting the court ruling without challenging it. Who do you think advised the Secretary of HHS on the matter?
the FDA is part of the executive branch, there is not no one elected to it, its run my appointed bureaucrats....who are not accountable to the people.
they have no authority to issues any orders to the people, no authority over the rights of parents.
this is another step of government outside the Constitution.
as i stated to earlier, i have no problem with the drug being available, but government does not dictate to the people.
the Constitution gave government no authority over the people at all.
in following the constitution.... government has only authority in d.c. and were the feds and the state have agreed on, and that pertains to building only.
government has no authority on private or state property to come and go at will.
I'm very concerned about the potential long-term effects on young bodies of this pill and also about the easy-to-imagine abuse of it by kids.
weird i didnt claim they have that powere
and why doesnt your example apply to to every store everywhere for everybody not 18?
are you suggesting that nobody under the age of 18 should be allowed to buy anything without parental consent?
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