Drone strikes US outpost in Syria

[Fledermaus]

Oh, and as previously stated, you no longer have room to cry about “whataboutism” given your constant use of it in attempts to defend South Korea’s brutal military dictators.

As for the Soviet Union, it’s funny you should mention them......because guess who the PKK’s biggest supporters during the Cold War were?

Yes, and the US Army and CIA have aided numerous terrorist groups from the precursors to Colombia’s AUC, to several Cuban groups known for blowing up civilian airliners and murdering diplomats, to the Contras. Your point?

Btw, the “it’s justified when we do it but terrorism when they do it” argument should have died with the Cold War.

More bleating about Whataboutism when that is your prime tool of "debate".

Russia does something evil.... Tigerace117 : "But what about..."

North Korea is a despotic hellhole... Tigerace117 : "But what about..."

We killed a man responsible for arming and supporting multiple terrorist organizations... Tigerace117 : "But what about..."

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[Tigerace117]

Yes keep to your claim that US servicemen are all a bunch of terrorists. Yes I am sure that will convince everyone that your rantings are not just the butthurt outbursts from a basic training failure.


Yeah the iraqs had such strong support to kick America out ofcountry that they passed a non binding resolution that was more then a symbolic gesture. How very convincing.

I said Irans response was weak. Which it was. That you have to lie and pretend I claimed that TBI is no big deal or weak just proves that you don’t mind lying as long as it helps sooth your pain from failure.

You pretend it was just a job to you yet your entire world out look changed the moment you got the boot. Yeah that sounds believable.

At some point in your life you are going to have to just let it go and move on. Keeping all this rage inside is just not healthy.

Gee bud, keep whining because I pointed out that under YOUR excuse for “logic” they would qualify as such. The simple fact of the matter is that the US lives in a glass house, and throwing bricks calling other nations’ officers “terrorists” for doing the same thing we do is ignorant at best. But by all means keep humiliating yourself with the “it’s terrorism when they do it and not when we do it” shtick

Gee bud, do you think the dozens of American servicemen who got their brains scrambled think it was “weak”? You literally downplayed it again in the very next sentence


As repeatedly stated, your “beliefs” can’t change the facts bud.

At some point you are going to have to face the real world....but I doubt you can.

 

[Tigerace117]

More utterly meaningless sobbing about “whataboutism” from the guy who engaged in it dozens of times to try and defend South Korea’s vile dictators.

Frantic tears and endless sobbing because I refuse to ignore the atrocities the US keeps committing are downright comical.

And as already shown, the US ITSELF is responsible for funding and arming numerous terrorist groups. Does that mean any Americans are valid targets?

 

[Fledermaus]

More utterly meaningless sobbing about “whataboutism”

Mewls about “whataboutism” while constantly engaging in “whataboutism” to include above post.

Hypocrisy thy name is Tigerace117.

 

[Fledermaus]

As previously stated, he was about as much a “terrorist” as any American soldier who trained the Kurds was. Watching you tearfully sob because you are obsessed with a job and you think everyone else is too is downright comical.

The Quds Force is a branch of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps that has aided Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Yemeni Houthis, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. He aided the Taliban against the NATO-backed Karzai administration. It aided in the formulation of Hezbollah. It aided the insurrection in Iraq thereby helping to extend the violence after the 2003 invasion. It has aided Al-Qaeda.

The list goes on but I suspect it will mean nothing to you because it is not America/West involved.

 

[Tigerace117]

Repeating the same drivel in larger font can’t change the facts.

As already shown, the US ITSELF is responsible for funding and arming numerous terrorist groups. Does that mean any Americans are valid targets?

 

[Fledermaus]

Repeating the same drivel in larger font can’t change the facts.

As already shown, the US ITSELF is responsible for funding and arming numerous terrorist groups. Does that mean any Americans are valid targets?

As already shown, Tigerace117 engages in WHATABOUTISM consistently.

The conversation moved to the killing of Solemani. I gave context to Solemani's sins and Tigerace117 goes immediately to WHATABOUTISM.

 

[Tigerace117]

As already shown, you have no room to talk after engaging in it dozens of times to try and defend South Korea’s dictators.

You started sobbing about Quds Force arming terrorists, and I pointed out that the US has done the EXACT SAME thing.

Yet another case of the US throwing stones in a glass house.

 

[Fledermaus]

As already shown, you have no room to talk after engaging in it dozens of times to try and defend South Korea’s dictators.

You started sobbing about Quds Force arming terrorists, and I pointed out that the US has done the EXACT SAME thing.

Yet another case of the US throwing stones in a glass house.

Whataboutism.

 

[Tigerace117]

Meaningless and hypocritical sputtering from you, as usual.

And nothing which can change the fact that the strike was actively counterproductive and done solely for petty revenge.

 

[Fledermaus]

Meaningless and hypocritical sputtering from you, as usual.

And nothing which can change the fact that the strike was actively counterproductive and done solely for petty revenge.

Your OPINION is noted as is your irrational hatred for the west and its defense against communism and terrorism.

Here is part of the reason why Lieutenant General Qasem Soleimani died:

The Quds Force is a branch of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps that has aided Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Yemeni Houthis, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. He aided the Taliban against the NATO-backed Karzai administration. It aided in the formulation of Hezbollah. It aided the insurrection in Iraq thereby helping to extend the violence after the 2003 invasion. It has aided Al-Qaeda.

He was instrumental in the deaths of Americans and paid in full for the terrorism he fomented.

 

[RF667799]

Meaningless and hypocritical sputtering from you, as usual.

And nothing which can change the fact that the strike was actively counterproductive and done solely for petty revenge.

What was it revenge for, and why was that revenge petty?

 

[braindrain]

Gee bud, keep whining because I pointed out that under YOUR excuse for “logic” they would qualify as such. The simple fact of the matter is that the US lives in a glass house, and throwing bricks calling other nations’ officers “terrorists” for doing the same thing we do is ignorant at best. But by all means keep humiliating yourself with the “it’s terrorism when they do it and not when we do it” shtick

Gee bud, do you think the dozens of American servicemen who got their brains scrambled think it was “weak”? You literally downplayed it again in the very next sentence


As repeatedly stated, your “beliefs” can’t change the facts bud.

At some point you are going to have to face the real world....but I doubt you can.

No that is not my logic at all. You are just telling lies again. Nothing new here.

So when was the last time the US purposly target civilians. Because that is a big part of soleimani did. But I get it you have to attack America because of your failure.

Their individual event was not weak. On a strategic level it was incredibly weak. That you can’t understand the difference is a you problem.

 

[Tigerace117]

What was it revenge for, and why was that revenge petty?

For him fighting against the US when we blundered into Iraq.

It was petty because there are FAR more important things to deal with— for example, fighting against ISIS— than trying to get “revenge”

 

[Tigerace117]

No that is not my logic at all. You are just telling lies again. Nothing new here.

So when was the last time the US purposly target civilians. Because that is a big part of soleimani did. But I get it you have to attack America because of your failure.

Their individual event was not weak. On a strategic level it was incredibly weak. That you can’t understand the difference is a you problem.

Lol yes, it absolutely is. You’ve been screaming “terrorism” over and over when he literally didn’t do anything different than US covert ops training similarly groups.

Gee, all those war criminals the US pardoned— or didn’t even bother trying— not ringing a bell? Alan West tortured a prisoner and it “hurt” his career so much he’s chair of the Texas GOP. And that’s not even getting into shit like the AC-130 strike at Kunduz or the years of systematic torture, in many cases of innocent civilians, at “Black Sites”.

Furthermore, it was far from the first time it happened. Targeting of civilians in strategic bombing campaigns was commonplace throughout the Vietnam War, and insurgents like the Contras were trained to go after non-combatants while the CIA bombed refineries and mined harbors.

Well gee bud, they blew up a bunch of Americans and got away scot free. That’s not “weak” at all.

 

[Fledermaus]

For him fighting against the US when we blundered into Iraq.

Blundered into Iraq?

You mean when we spanked the Iraqi Army. Twice. Then hunted down Saddam. Oversaw a democracy being formed. Supported it against the likes Lieutenant General Qasem Soleimani. Left when asked. Returned when asked. And finally withdraw again once the heavy lifting was done.

That "blundering"?

It was petty because there are FAR more important things to deal with— for example, fighting against ISIS— than trying to get “revenge”

Please share what net negative effect launching one drone against Lieutenant General Qasem Soleimani had on US contribution to spanking ISIS/ISIL.

 

[Fledermaus]

Lol yes, it absolutely is. You’ve been screaming “terrorism” over and over when he literally didn’t do anything different than US covert ops training similarly groups.

Gee, all those war criminals the US pardoned— or didn’t even bother trying— not ringing a bell? Alan West tortured a prisoner and it “hurt” his career so much he’s chair of the Texas GOP. And that’s not even getting into shit like the AC-130 strike at Kunduz or the years of systematic torture, in many cases of innocent civilians, at “Black Sites”.

Furthermore, it was far from the first time it happened. Targeting of civilians in strategic bombing campaigns was commonplace throughout the Vietnam War, and insurgents like the Contras were trained to go after non-combatants while the CIA bombed refineries and mined harbors.

Well gee bud, they blew up a bunch of Americans and got away scot free. That’s not “weak” at all.

Rote WHATABOUTISM..............

 

[Tigerace117]

Oh look, more tearful whining about “communism” and “terrorism”. The hit was not “defense”; it was nothing more than a petty attempt at revenge, and under your own “logic” US servicemen and CIA agents would be equally valid targets due to the US’ policies of arming, training and supporting numerous terrorist groups.

 

[Galactic Spin]

Calling the US a “pit bull” is downright comical....and the Russians have “slapped” us many times over the years, which makes your argument nonsensical. For example, they helped blow plenty of US bombers out of the sky over Hanoi and Haiphong.

The Iranians are more than capable of doing it themselves, but arguing that the Russians “wouldn’t dare” to hit back, as they see it, is ignorant.

They wouldn't. That's why the maniac dictator of Russia had to threaten the entire human race with nukes, when invading Ukraine. Because he knew his incompetent, outdated army would be turned to dust by American forces in a matter of days.

 

[Fledermaus]

Oh look, more tearful whining about “communism” and “terrorism”. The hit was not “defense”; it was nothing more than a petty attempt at revenge, and under your own “logic” US servicemen and CIA agents would be equally valid targets due to the US’ policies of arming, training and supporting numerous terrorist groups.

Who are you directing this semi-coherent rant towards?

You keep bleating about this being "revenge".

Under WHO'S logic?

 

[Tigerace117]

They wouldn't. That's why the maniac dictator of Russia had to threaten the entire human race with nukes, when invading Ukraine. Because he knew his incompetent, outdated army would be turned to dust by American forces in a matter of days.

Except history shows they would....and did.

Gee bud, and the Iraqis were going to greet us as liberators

Arrogance and overconfidence leads to military disaster, but the US simply refuses to learn.

 

[Fledermaus]

Calling the US a “pit bull” is downright comical....and the Russians have “slapped” us many times over the years, which makes your argument nonsensical. For example, they helped blow plenty of US bombers out of the sky over Hanoi and Haiphong.

Tell us how USSR/Russian equipped and trained armies have fared against US equipped and trained armies.

 

[Galactic Spin]

Except history shows they would....and did.

Not recent history. Things change, times change. And now Russia is a shell of a country with an outdated, incompetent military that would never dare to directly attack even one American tent.

 

[Fledermaus]

Except history shows they would....and did.

Gee bud, and the Iraqis were going to greet us as liberators

Arrogance and overconfidence leads to military disaster, but the US simply refuses to learn.

They would and did what?

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, the US’ actions in Iraq were a clear cut case of blundering on every level. We had no plan other than “they’ll greet us as liberators”, and when it became abundantly clear that wouldn’t be the case we panicked and started flailing wildly. We failed miserably to maintain order in the country from almost from the day after the invasion, we shot ourselves in the foot dozens of times with ill conceived schemes—like, gee, demobilizing the Iraqi Army without bothering to wonder “Hmm, I wonder what a bunch of armed, trained men who have no job and whose country is not occupied by foreigners are going to do next”

Gee, considering we spent a decade giving the Iraqis everything up to and including ANTHRAX and excusing them killing US servicemen because “but Iran” the posturing is comical.

And then, of course, we repeatedly violated the sovereignty of the government we created for petty revenge. Classic America.