I disagree strongly with this position, actually. Bernie, especially at the beginning, was a long shot. The money I gave to Sanders was to start building Leftist institutions in the US, and to use my money as my "free speech" to let the DNC know how I felt. And guess what? Genuine progressive/Left candidates are running in record numbers, receiving record grassroots contributions, a huge number of political organizations have been built, and so forth. It was a longer term investment than a single election, and it was all well-worth it.
(It doesn't stop Clinton from being a piece of **** though.)
I mean, as I alluded to, this more or less happened, just we don't have good numbers and we cannot know the extent of it all. 800,000 ballots in California Democratic primary were thrown in the trash due to rules being written regarding Independent voters (it was actually against the rules to explain to Independents what kind of crossover ballot was the correct ballot), NY's election commission illegally purged 200,000 Brooklyn voters, and so forth. That's just one state and another borough. Rhode Island, Arizona, and several other states shut down (possibly illegally, I'm not sure) voting stations on the day of elections. Ohio's results never made sense, but that's very far from proof of ballot-stuffing nor is there any clear indication of ballot-stuffing.
Is it enough to swing the election on its own? No. Can we prove that Clinton was personally involved? No --at least not currently. Was she involved? Well, I can't imagine career politicians did this **** for Clinton without letting her know so she could return the favor, but that's different than proof. Either way, at the end of the day, it's proven that Clinton wiped her ass with the campaign finance laws with a technical legal loophole, and subverted the primary process by rigging the rules, the data/analytics, personnel, and messaging from the DNC to her favor. The DNC messaging issue is another topic worthy of discussion, but it's also explicitly clear that Clinton used the DNC and her personal contacts to make certain that the media never covered the Sanders campaign. We have some clear indications of this through Wikileaks, but we'll never see how thorough her/her surrogates controlled the media. We also know that she explicitly wanted the media to cover the Trump and Cruz campaigns, because they were the "dream scenarios," rather than the Sanders campaign. So even before we get to tallying votes and illegally purging voters, Clinton already basically destroyed the Sanders campaign by throwing corporate/Wall St. cash and journalistic access at any possible problems. Everyone does what they can to win, obviously, but this is just wildly unethical.
No, you guys just have some fundamental facts wrong about the Uranium One deal.
The so-called bribe came from a guy who wasn't a Uranium One shareholder. So he spent 150 million on a bribe he wouldn't profit from?
Also, it happened while Hillary Clinton was not in a position of authority over the deal. She wasn't SecState at the time of the so-called bribe. So the guy spent 150 million on a bribe for a company he wouldn't profit from to a woman who wasn't actually in a position to facilitate the deal at all. And this is what you want me to get all up in arms about.
Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.
Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.
They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.
The racketeering scheme was conducted “with the consent of higher level officials” in Russia who “shared the proceeds” from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.
FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow
Deep down inside, how sure are you that it's not the other way around? Are you really so sure this Uranium One bit isn't just some desperate attempt to deflect your attention away from the growing list of confirmed Russian agents in the Trump campaign? An attempt to discredit Mueller's ever-threatening investigation?
Given that silly map you have as an avatar, I'm guessing you don't actually feel any cognitive dissonance here. Too bad.
I agree Dem voters got screwed. But, it was all done within the rules.
I'm not so sure.
There is no law that requires a political party to follow their own rules. Any rule made by a given party can be changed at most any time, or the party can simply ignore it's own rules. Fair has nothing to do with it. What did Hillary do, do you think, where any law was broken or the party could give her a consequence?
You should be happier about Trump then, he spent half what Hillary did.
You think Hillary would have handed off the EPA to a fossil fuel magnate? You think Hillary would have used missiles launched at Syria to plug a chocolate cake commercial? You think Hillary would have handed the DOE to an heiress who wants to cash in our children's futures for personal profit?
Give me a break.
It kills me how lefties have no real arguments against Trumpy, except that they don't like the way he talks and what he talks about.
"I hate the POTUS because he's a bad guy..."
My contention there is that he's selling out US policy to industry shills.
Nope.
But you know what it says. Psychic?
Being that I got it off of the main stream media, you are going to take the "Fake News" route. Interesting.
Please share. I am unfamiliar with the specific content of her book.
The DNC was broke and the Hillary campaign lent it money to keep it going. But of course strings were attached.
My contention there is that he's selling out US policy to industry shills.
This article does not say Hillary Clinton blamed everyone else. I was referring to that book.
My contention there is that he's selling out US policy to industry shills.
I think we are talking two different subjects then.
I asked if you read this book. You seem to have thought I meant the other. I wasn't clear on that.Hillary Clinton: What Happened
I lost because of everyone else
You think Hillary would have handed off the EPA to a fossil fuel magnate? You think Hillary would have used missiles launched at Syria to plug a chocolate cake commercial? You think Hillary would have handed the DOE to an heiress who wants to cash in our children's futures for personal profit?
Give me a break.
You really do not have a clue, do you? It is the establishment politicians who are obedient to their big donor industry shills. Trump is actually for the American workers.
Of course you disagree, because you don't think Hillary is corrupt.
Yes. I'll get you back on track:
You said
I asked if you read this book. You seem to have thought I meant the other. I wasn't clear on that.
I assume you haven't read this book either, but feel justified in declaring what it says. Based on... (please explain)
Bernie as president and the House and Senate in GOP hands... hmmm, I wonder how much would get accomplished? :lamo
The DNC was broke and the Hillary campaign lent it money to keep it going. But of course strings were attached.
"It must suck to hijack your party, steal a nomination, turn DNC into money laundromat,
bury any evidence against you, finance fake dossier, swipe the debate questions, and promise
free everything; yet still lose to someone you call incompetent.”
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