Donald Trump wants one-on-one, not multiparty talks with Kim Jong-un ...

[TU Curmudgeon]

There is a long list of outright lies from Trump. That his supporters stand reason on its head maintaining that those lies are actually true says a lot about the hold he has on his base.

Yes, I for one was totally outraged by Clinton and his un presidential behavior in the White House. I've said it before: I didn't think we could do any worse until Trump came along and proved me wrong.

It's not about being "conservative," whatever that means. It's not about Republicans vs. Democrats. It's not about the Clintons. It's about having elected a man who in no way should have high office in this republic.

When you have a political system which has evolved into one where (almost) the SOLE criterion for nomination is "electability" (whatever that means), you are - inevitably - going to get people like Mr. Trump running for, and winning, high political office. The odds of someone like Mr. Trump even running for high political office where criteria like, experience, background, track record, "paying dues", actual policies proposed, and the like are brought into play are considerably lower because "losing" is something that those people don't like to be seen to do. It happens, but the chances of them actually getting elected are MUCH lower.

 

[Dittohead not!]

When you have a political system which has evolved into one where (almost) the SOLE criterion for nomination is "electability" (whatever that means), you are - inevitably - going to get people like Mr. Trump running for, and winning, high political office. The odds of someone like Mr. Trump even running for high political office where criteria like, experience, background, track record, "paying dues", actual policies proposed, and the like are brought into play are considerably lower because "losing" is something that those people don't like to be seen to do. It happens, but the chances of them actually getting elected are MUCH lower.

Unfortunately true, and "electability" simply means that people are willing to vote for them. What does that say about the voters?

Kakistocracy, here we come... no, wait, it's already here!

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Unfortunately true, and "electability" simply means that people are willing to vote for them. What does that say about the voters?

Kakistocracy, here we come... no, wait, it's already here!

Voted you up because of the invention of a new political term that is actually useful and accurate.

 

[MAGAnificent]

There is a long list of outright lies from Trump. That his supporters stand reason on its head maintaining that those lies are actually true says a lot about the hold he has on his base.

You have yet to come up with one bonafide lie.

Yes, I for one was totally outraged by Clinton and his un presidential behavior in the White House. I've said it before: I didn't think we could do any worse until Trump came along and proved me wrong.

How is Trump worse? Clinton had scandals on the way into the white house. I lost count of how many scandals he and Hillary were involved in while he was in office, and there was even a scandal on the way out. Clinton was impeached over perjury and obstruction of justice. His own state disbarred him from practicing law for 5 years over that perjury. In comparison the democrats attempted to push a phony Russian collusion hoax which is now blowing up in their faces.

It's not about being "conservative," whatever that means. It's not about Republicans vs. Democrats. It's not about the Clintons. It's about having elected a man who in no way should have high office in this republic.

You have not come up with any legitimate reason why he should have the highest office in the republic. He was quite legally elected. What specifically do you think disqualifies him. And you are still not giving a direct answer to my question about your real reason or reasons for disliking Trump at such a level. I am quite sure it's not about alleged lies.

 

[Dittohead not!]

1 You have yet to come up with one bonafide lie.



2 How is Trump worse? Clinton had scandals on the way into the white house. I lost count of how many scandals he and Hillary were involved in while he was in office, and there was even a scandal on the way out. Clinton was impeached over perjury and obstruction of justice. His own state disbarred him from practicing law for 5 years over that perjury. In comparison the democrats attempted to push a phony Russian collusion hoax which is now blowing up in their faces.



3 You have not come up with any legitimate reason why he should have the highest office in the republic. He was quite legally elected. What specifically do you think disqualifies him. And you are still not giving a direct answer to my question about your real reason or reasons for disliking Trump at such a level. I am quite sure it's not about alleged lies.

1. See? I said Trump supporters would stand reason on its head trying to say that Trump's lies are true. I gave several examples. I know you won't accept any of them, as you're a Trump supporter.
How about the one about how the border wall in San Antonio had brought down crime, was that true?

2. Clinton was far from perfect, but he was no Donald Trump. Was he sued successfully for fraud? Did he cheat on three wives before the election? There isn't any credible evidence he cheated on even one wife before the Lewinsky affair. Did Clinton lie.. oh, right, you do't believe Trump lies. Did Clinton have multiple bankruptcies? Did he alienate any ally to the point they wanted to ban him from their country?

3. He was quite legally elected. He did have some help from his friend, Putin, but there's no proof that he wouldn't have been elected anyway. That he's not fit to lead is simply my opinion, supported by several facts.