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Donald Trump reveals his chief foreign policy advisor.

I don't think I can agree with you there. Given the breadth of his dealings, I believe he probably has more experience in all the areas you mention than any other candidate running for President. That doesn't mean he should be President, the voters will decide that, but when you combine the things Trump has likely had to develop skills in, Trump has shown he has experience in all of them.

How has Trump shown that he has experience in running a government, handling foreign policy, or defining defense?

Heck, I just want you to explain that answer to the level of "any" experience, and then we can talk about whether he has "more experience...than any other candidate running for President."
 
How has Trump shown that he has experience in running a government, handling foreign policy, or defining defense?

Heck, I just want you to explain that answer to the level of "any" experience, and then we can talk about whether he has "more experience...than any other candidate running for President."





lol.... remember when that wasn't a big deal about obama?
 
I mean the way the media should go after trump, and any candidate for that matter, is to needle them on specifics on policy issues. I mean the guy for ****s sake is for an Assault weapons ban. instead of calling him hitler, make that a highlight. On immigration, ask him specificialy to line out his plans. etc etc..

instead we have "fascism"! and "racist" and "he has a hairpiece and wants to **** his daughter" ****....

When trump says he loves the uneducated, he's not the only one/.

Please watch this video of a very respected journalist attempting to needle Trump on just one issue - how he would get Mexico to pay for the wall - and listen to Trump dance and feint like he has always done when attempting to delve into specifics.

Woodward Grills Trump: Would You Be Willing To Go To War To Make Mexico Pay For Wall? | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
lol.... remember when that wasn't a big deal about obama?

And I honestly don't believe it is a large deal for Trump, but one difference is that Obama would at least outline details about his policies or his advisers.

But to your point, I certainly see a similarity between some Trump supporters and some Obama supporters who just bought into his cult of personality.
 
How has Trump shown that he has experience in running a government, handling foreign policy, or defining defense?

Heck, I just want you to explain that answer to the level of "any" experience, and then we can talk about whether he has "more experience...than any other candidate running for President."

Look at his business. Case closed.

If you can't see how an international developer and business owner develops experience in politics, economics, management, and security, there is no point in wasting my time with you.
 
Please watch this video of a very respected journalist attempting to needle Trump on just one issue - how he would get Mexico to pay for the wall - and listen to Trump dance and feint like he has always done when attempting to delve into specifics.

Woodward Grills Trump: Would You Be Willing To Go To War To Make Mexico Pay For Wall? | Video | RealClearPolitics




But see that's just it. don't ask him how he is going to pay for the wall, but what his actual immigration policies would be. The "Wall" is a distraction.
 
that's not "anecdotal"

Er, yeah. It's "a lot of folks came out" for a day of voting.

and data from polls is often wrong, and manipulated. Trump has defied the polls before.

Actually Trump has underperformed polls. I think what you are thinking of is "pundit predictions".

I disagree, I think if Bernie were to get the nod you would see an influx of young voters, but if it's hillary, you'll see apathy.

Sure. Unless the GOP nominee is Trump, who to varying degrees terrifies, infuriates, and is loathed by the Democrat base.


Are you kidding? trump's been considered a celebrity clown for YEARS, nothing negative yet including the trump university scam has hurt him, what do you think hillary can say about him that's going to change this?

Actual spread. You and I are up on Trump university, because we pay attention to this stuff. That does not hold for the general population, who at best pays dim attention to the news. When Rubio and Cruz ganged up on Trump, the result was that his numbers began (finally) to actually go down. A billion dollars of negative advertising between July and November makes Vera Coking a household name. It puts every time he has screwed over regular people, his employees, and his business partners front and center in a way that actually reaches voters.

Though, to be fair, she's starting off with a massive advantage already baked in the cake. Trump is already the most disliked Presidential candidate that Gallup has polled. Ever., and already loses consistently by several points to Clinton in a head-to-head.

I disagree, I think you have to consider the history of turnout in primaries as a driving factor into who is going to win

Turnout isn't uni-directional; people are turning out in droves to vote against Trump as much or more than they are turning out to vote for him. Among those turning out, somewhere around a third will consider or vote third party, rather than voting for Trump.

What you and I are being told by the msm is a sham. how many 20k plus rallies has this guy had that they refused to cover?

None. Usually it's a cut away to his speech, they listen to the speech, and then they have a panel dissecting the speech, and then the next day they'll have him on in the morning to talk about the speech. Trump has gotten more coverage than all the other GOP candidates. Combined.

Free Media.webp

This guy is a MSM creation. He's free ratings, he offers a lot of access, and he's free ratings, and ratings mean money, and he's free ratings.


wait... did you just state you will vote for hillary? :shock:

:grim: If my state is close, and that is what is needed to beat Trump. Better to lose to Socialism than lose to Fascism. A Hillary Presidency will unify the party and the conservative movement. A Trump presidency will destroy both those things.
 
Look at his business. Case closed.

If you can't see how an international developer and business owner develops experience in politics, economics, management, and security, there is no point in wasting my time with you.

You truly believe it is that simple? So every CEO of a fortune 500 company has the requisite level of experience in foreign policy - even if they never interacted with 80% of the world's countries? Every CEO of a fortune 500 company has the requisite level of experience in military affairs - even if their companies never dealt, directly or indirectly, with military equipment or leaders? Every CEO of a fortune 500 company has the requisite level of domestic experience - even if they never drafted or reviewed a piece of legislation?
 
Er, yeah. It's "a lot of folks came out" for a day of voting.

I've linked to this before, I can find it if you need me to.,


2008 5.6 million turned out for republicans
2008 8.6 million turned out for democrats

2016 8.5 million turned out for super tuesday for the republicans.
2016 5.9 million turned out for super tuesday for the democrats.



Hillary's win relied on that DISMAL turnout.

Democratic Turnout Down 32 PERCENT In Super Tuesday States | The Daily Caller



Actually Trump has underperformed polls. I think what you are thinking of is "pundit predictions".


what?



Sure. Unless the GOP nominee is Trump, who to varying degrees terrifies, infuriates, and is loathed by the Democrat base.


Didn't work for the Republicans with Romney.



Actual spread. You and I are up on Trump university, because we pay attention to this stuff. That does not hold for the general population, who at best pays dim attention to the news. When Rubio and Cruz ganged up on Trump, the result was that his numbers began (finally) to actually go down. A billion dollars of negative advertising between July and November makes Vera Coking a household name. It puts every time he has screwed over regular people, his employees, and his business partners front and center in a way that actually reaches voters.


show me his numbers going down.



Though, to be fair, she's starting off with a massive advantage already baked in the cake. Trump is already the most disliked Presidential candidate that Gallup has polled. Ever., and already loses consistently by several points to Clinton in a head-to-head.


Do you really believe clinton is not as hated as trump?



Turnout isn't uni-directional; people are turning out in droves to vote against Trump as much or more than they are turning out to vote for him. Among those turning out, somewhere around a third will consider or vote third party, rather than voting for Trump.

No they are not. just look at his margins in the highest turn out states.



None. Usually it's a cut away to his speech, they listen to the speech, and then they have a panel dissecting the speech, and then the next day they'll have him on in the morning to talk about the speech. Trump has gotten more coverage than all the other GOP candidates. Combined.

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This guy is a MSM creation. He's free ratings, he offers a lot of access, and he's free ratings, and ratings mean money, and he's free ratings.


the goals however of trump, vs the msm are completely different.



:grim: If my state is close, and that is what is needed to beat Trump. Better to lose to Socialism than lose to Fascism. A Hillary Presidency will unify the party and the conservative movement. A Trump presidency will destroy both those things.


so we get obama's anti 2nd scotus in, and hillary in.... that's a recipe for disaster.... are you sure that's what you want to do?
 
You truly believe it is that simple? So every CEO of a fortune 500 company has the requisite level of experience in foreign policy - even if they never interacted with 80% of the world's countries? Every CEO of a fortune 500 company has the requisite level of experience in military affairs - even if their companies never dealt, directly or indirectly, with military equipment or leaders? Every CEO of a fortune 500 company has the requisite level of domestic experience - even if they never drafted or reviewed a piece of legislation?

In short, yes. Although the Fortune 500 covers a lot of ground, so it's possible there are a few within the 500 that are so focused they wouldn't apply here.

I guess you need to learn more about the role of a CEO in a large international corporation.
 
In short, yes. Although the Fortune 500 covers a lot of ground, so it's possible there are a few within the 500 that are so focused they wouldn't apply here.

I guess you need to learn more about the role of a CEO in a large international corporation.

I guess so.

But I guess it is silly of me to expect someone running for the most powerful political office to either demonstrate some level of experience in the political realm or to at least be able to outline their policy positions in a coherent and consistent manner while demonstrating some level of expertise in the field.
 
I mean the way the media should go after trump, and any candidate for that matter, is to needle them on specifics on policy issues. I mean the guy for ****s sake is for an Assault weapons ban. instead of calling him hitler, make that a highlight. On immigration, ask him specificialy to line out his plans. etc etc..


instead we have "fascism"! and "racist" and "he has a hairpiece and wants to **** his daughter" ****....


When trump says he loves the uneducated, he's not the only one/.
I totally agree. I have said for years that I am against all the BS and Rhetoric. All I want to hear is what each Candidate has to offer and the details on how they plan on accomplishing those goals, then I will decide who I think is best, if more people actually knew what the candidates stood for they might think twice about supporting them. My God, Trump was a dyed in the wool Democrat right before declaring for the GOP nomination, does anyone in their right mind believe the guy has reversed himself on all the issues over night and even if he did then what is to prevent them from doing it again? Maybe the Parties need a better Vetting system for their candidates, it might just keep what is happening from happening again.
 
I've linked to this before, I can find it if you need me to.,
....
2016 8.5 million super tuesday for republicans.
2016 5.9 million super tuesday for democrats.

Yup. So?

1. The General election is a 130 million voter ecosystem, not a 9 million voter ecosystem.
2. Turnout in GOP elections is also driven high by people coming out to vote against Trump.


Trump has performed at around or under his polls. He hasn't been "defying the polls". He's been defying the pundits who thought eventually his base would wake up.

Didn't work for the Republicans with Romney.

Obama wasn't perceived as an actual threat the way that Trump is, and Obama had higher favorable ratings. Hard conservatives tend to project their own approach across the general GOP electorate, but the data doesn't follow.

show me his numbers going down.

Check out Super Tuesday. The debate immediately before, Cruz and Rubio tag-teamed Trump, and finally started running anti-Trump advertising (up until then, everyone had generally left him alone). Trump was projected to win 10 states. He won 7, and came within 3 percentage points of only winning 4 (Kasich hooked him up by continuing with the fratricide, mostly targeting Rubio in places like Virginia). In Oklahoma, for example, polls had Trump up by more than 11. Cruz won by 6. In Virginia, Trump's 15 point lead plunged to 2.8. In Texas, Trump dropped from being within striking distance to a 17 point loss. His 15 point lead in Vermont shrank to 2.3%. In Louisiana, Trump enjoyed a 26 point lead in the early voting... which shrank to 3 percent by election day, as he lost points after the debate and he started receiving incoming fire.

The data shows that Trump loses support when competently attacked.

In contrast. The last debate, everyone was really super nice to each other. Trump won Florida in a blowout.

Donald Trump is the weakest frontrunner in Republican history. He is the most widely loathed candidate that Gallup has polled, ever, which is why in the last month of polling, Hillary is beating him by an average of 8 points, and that lead is accelerating.

Do you really believe clinton is not as hated as trump?

That's what the data says. Though both are underwater in terms of favorability, Donald Trump is underwater by 33 percentage points. Hillary is underwater by about 10. So Trump is hated (net) about three times as much as Hillary is. He is the best GOTV operation that the Democrats could possibly have gotten this cycle.

And. Again. All of Hillary's negatives are pretty much baked into her cake thus far. The media did a crap job of vetting Trump for the vast majority of this race, and his opposition candidates did almost no opposition research until very recently, as they assumed he would eventually flame out. If you think that the MSM and Democrats (but I repeat myself) aren't waiting for July to begin absolutely unloading a can of worms after a can of worms after a can of **** after a can of worms, your fooling yourself.

No they are not. just look at his margins in the highest turn out states.

What, you mean like Iowa, where turnout blew past all past GOP records?

Two Thirds of those who didn't vote for Trump in the GOP Primaries on March 15th say they will seriously consider a third party candidate if Trump gets the nomination.

Yes, we are.

the goals however of trump, vs the msm are completely different

Which is a non-answer to the data, which demonstrates that in fact you are incorrect - that overwhelming media focus and attention has been an instrumental part in Trump's rise.

so we get obama's anti 2nd scotus in, and hillary in.... that's a recipe for disaster.... are you sure that's what you want to do?

No it's not what I want. I wanted Walker. Then I wanted Perry. Then I wanted Rubio. I loathe Hillary Clinton as a person, and will likely be angry every day of her Presidency. But at that point, it is the less-awful option, because it is the one the conservative movement and the GOP can recover from. Which isn't to say that they will. The data suggests Trump locks Hispanics into the Democrat party about as solidly as African-Americans already are, ensuring that they win national-level elections for a generation or more.
 
I guess so.

But I guess it is silly of me to expect someone running for the most powerful political office to either demonstrate some level of experience in the political realm or to at least be able to outline their policy positions in a coherent and consistent manner while demonstrating some level of expertise in the field.

Well, I guess it depends on the filter one uses to determine the levels of expertise and experience that are actually present.

Such qualifications were unnecessary 8 years ago, and depending on ones viewpoint, didn't stand in the way of great success, or, proved to be a unmitigated disaster.

What can't be realistically said is that Trump has no experience in the political realm, and no experience in other areas that would be relative to being President of the United States.
 
If Bernie loses/drops-out I'm writing his name in or voting for Gary Johnson/Jill Stein.
 
Yes, but I don't see any severe problems with Obama except to me he could've gone a little further (for example single-payer or public-option healthcare).

Truth is: There's just not that much a President can do without Congress, so I don't overly worry.

Obama has wasted 7 years in restructuring international security, lost the advantage Bush had left him in this respect and diminished our credibility as an ally. He has not reduced the national debt in spite of the very low rates and relatively strong economy leaving the country more vulnerable than we should be. As far as health insurance goes, his attempt is certainly economically better than a public or single payer system that would have put the production of a huge private good in the hands of government and a new bureaucracy. He did not reduce spending, which is unsustainable. But otherwise, you I am with you. He could have been worse.
 
I don't think I can agree with you there. Given the breadth of his dealings, I believe he probably has more experience in all the areas you mention than any other candidate running for President. That doesn't mean he should be President, the voters will decide that, but when you combine the things Trump has likely had to develop skills in, Trump has shown he has experience in all of them.

I guess we will disagree on his foreign policy and government experience.
 
Illegal in what way? I ask because I truly don't know.

However, if Ben Carson was promised some cabinet position or other favors for his endorsement, that might be frowned upon.

If I recall correctly there may be a federal law preventing nepotism. The law itself was passed in 1967. Nevertheless, Trump has argued his son would make a good cabinet secretary (Commerce or Defense) and his sister a Supreme Court justice.

It's all rather sad to read, and almost to an extent incredibly unbelievable, but it's been said.
 
Look at his business. Case closed.

If you can't see how an international developer and business owner develops experience in politics, economics, management, and security, there is no point in wasting my time with you.

Maybe you should look at his business record, he hasn't been stellar
 
Maybe you should look at his business record, he hasn't been stellar

Of course it has. Depends on knowledge of the business he is in, and how it compares to others. In comparison to others, and to the industry itself, it's rather obvious Trump knows what he is doing.
 
Of course it has. Depends on knowledge of the business he is in, and how it compares to others. In comparison to others, and to the industry itself, it's rather obvious Trump knows what he is doing.

Donald Trump Would Be Richer If He Had Invested in Index Funds - Fortune

Trump’s net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.

The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.

Other billionaires’ net worths have beaten the stock market’s growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet’s wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.
 
Your point would have meaning if his business was running a hedge fund or the like, and not real estate development.

The point being his real estate development isnt that great, he puts his name on **** and then get sued over it or it just straight up fails. He tried to start a mortgage business in April of 2006, claiming “I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company,” literally the dumbest move possible. His company has gone bankrupt 4 times thats not a tactic thats just failing. He's a loser, always has been always will be. If you think hes a winner because he claims that he is, that is exactly why hes not begging on the street because he can always get a sucker to believe him, that is his gift.
 
The point being his real estate development isnt that great, he puts his name on **** and then get sued over it or it just straight up fails. He tried to start a mortgage business in April of 2006, claiming “I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company,” literally the dumbest move possible. His company has gone bankrupt 4 times thats not a tactic thats just failing. He's a loser, always has been always will be. If you think hes a winner because he claims that he is, that is exactly why hes not begging on the street because he can always get a sucker to believe him, that is his gift.

There is no possible way an objective review of his business over the years does not conclude he is very successful at it. It's fine if you want to apply your subjective bias to whatever you want to believe about Trump, but that is all it is.
 
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