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Donald Trump’s Las Vegas Hotel Is Officially Unionized

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Overruling objections filed by Donald Trump’s corporation, the National Labor Relations Boardofficially certified a union for more than 500 workers at the Trump International Hotel just off the Las Vegas strip. The workers, who voted to unionize last December, are now demanding the hotel’s management sit down with them to negotiate a contract immediately. Yet management has indicated they will instead appeal the Labor Board’s decision to the federal agency in Washington.“We’re just waiting for a contract,” housekeeper Maria Jaramillo told ThinkProgress. “We deserve one. We’re not second-class workers. So we’re here, waiting for him.”
Despite the new ruling in their favor, the workers may have to keep waiting. The hotel’s decision to appeal is in keeping with their longstanding efforts to prevent their employees from organizing. Workers told ThinkProgress they were subjected to intimidation by their supervisors and the “union avoidance” consulting firm they hired.


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Donald Trump a friend of the working class and organized labor? :naughty Not so much.
Glad these workers are winning in their efforts to beat that scab Trump. :applaud
 

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Is this supposed to be some sort of valid excuse or support of Trump?

I don't like the idea of Trump as President, but he the better friend of the working class, than you or BS seem to be.
 

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Yay for them. That sets them up to enjoy another 6 year long culinary workers union strike. Unemployment for cause is AWESOME.
 

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Donald Trump a friend of the working class and organized labor? :naughty Not so much.
Glad these workers are winning in their efforts to beat that scab Trump. :applaud[/FONT][/COLOR]

More IdioTrumpacy. The guy is hell bent on self-destruction. But as long as he believes that people who support will actually surrender themselves over to an authoritarian - he'll continue say anything and do anything that's in his own self-serving interests.
 

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I don't like the idea of Trump as President, but he the better friend of the working class, than you or BS seem to be.

:lamo Oh yes. Outsourcing his jobs and attempting to block the efforts of workers to organize is such a "friend"
 

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:lamo Oh yes. Outsourcing his jobs and attempting to block the efforts of workers to organize is such a "friend"

You're just tooting your bias. But an outsourced job is as much a job as one not outsourced. And it seems quite legitimate to try and discourage unionization that has priced many jobs impossible in the USA.
 

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You're just tooting your bias. But an outsourced job is as much a job as one not outsourced. And it seems quite legitimate to try and discourage unionization that has priced many jobs impossible in the USA.

My bias? You have not given any information beyond just saying unions are bad and Trump is a "job creator".... Therefore what? These workers should not organize in their workplace?
 

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:lamo Oh yes. Outsourcing his jobs and attempting to block the efforts of workers to organize is such a "friend"

He didn't outsource any of their jobs. Last I checked you can't be a bartender or a housekeeper in a Vegas casino remotely.
 

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Is your post supposed to be criticism of him?

Its a praise for the workers attempting to organize and a criticism of him fighting the unionization efforts, especially when he tries to play the card that he is pro-union....
 

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The funny thing about that hotel is that it does NOT have a casino. The Nevada will not grant Trump a license because of his past screw ups in Atlantic city.

He was granted a state gaming license in 2004.
 

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My bias? You have not given any information beyond just saying unions are bad and Trump is a "job creator".... Therefore what? These workers should not organize in their workplace?

They can organize. That is quite legitimate as it is to try to persuade them not to do so. But they shouldn't complain, if the jobs leave. When they are very successful they can even make a Detroit out of one of the most booming cities of the land.
 

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They can organize. That is quite legitimate as it is to try to persuade them not to do so. But they shouldn't complain, if the jobs leave. When they are very successful they can even make a Detroit out of one of the most booming cities of the land.

So your going to use the old talking point that organized labor forces business owners and CEO's to close the doors? Companies are making more per dollar of sales than they ever have before, lets save the whole falsehood of "companies cant afford unions". It would be one thing to show that union demands and organized labor is directly related to offshoring of jobs, but its a whole other to just say, "the situation Detroit is in now is because of unions".
 

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Its a praise for the workers attempting to organize and a criticism of him fighting the unionization efforts, especially when he tries to play the card that he is pro-union....
It is his responsibility to fight a union. A business executive who doesn't would be incompetent. He may well be pro union. I don't know. But that wouldn't have anything to do with fighting a union. It is in the best interests of a company not to have a union.
 

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We stayed at his place last time we were there - I think it was two years ago. Nice place and they gave us a good rate but tried to tack on thirty bucks for some resort fee.When I objected they took it off. Its like a block or two behind the strip in the middle of it all.
 

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Trump's a knucklehead. I know that, which is why I'd be more inclined to vote for my dead grandmother for President than Trump. Of course he outsources. And he's a hypocrite for doing it. But what does it have to do with his employees unionizing in Vegas?
 

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It is his responsibility to fight a union. A business executive who doesn't would be incompetent. He may well be pro union. I don't know. But that wouldn't have anything to do with fighting a union. It is in the best interests of a company not to have a union.

So he is "pro-union" but anti-union at the same time? Literally makes no sense.

Trump's a knucklehead. I know that, which is why I'd be more inclined to vote for my dead grandmother for President than Trump. Of course he outsources. And he's a hypocrite for doing it. But what does it have to do with his employees unionizing in Vegas?
My comment you originally quoted was in response to joG where he implied that Trump was a friend of American working class...
 

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